Nascar's Return to Nashville Speedway

Discussion in 'NASCAR chat' started by StandOnIt, Dec 19, 2018.

  1. gnomesayin

    gnomesayin Team Owner

    They voted to keep and actively protect it. Your allies will have to successfully campaign for a new initiative to overturn it.
     
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  2. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Team Owner

    If the taxpayers in Nashville are attached to a white elephant that is fine with me.
     
  3. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    The trolling extends into just about anything. Well said on your end.
     
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  4. MRM

    MRM Team Owner

    Someone I know asked where will people park.
     
  5. gnomesayin

    gnomesayin Team Owner

    You were openly critical of it, not fine with it. What is your basis for the white elephant characterization?

    Here was you four days ago:

    Your preference is to add another three short track venues in the southeastern US in the interest of restoring NASCAR's tradition and roots. Yet your opinion of a viable operating historic landmark Southern short track that needs relatively small (in development terms) upgrades to host national NASCAR series races again is that it is a burdensome possession and more trouble than it is worth (white elephant) and that the best outcome is that it be demolished.

    This level of incoherence will be hard to top.
     
  6. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Team Owner

    If Richmond and Atlanta can be put back the way they were and Rockingham can get 2 dates and Darlington can get its second race back they can have 5 races at Nashville for all I care.

    I’ve stated my preferences and reasons for Nascar not going to Nashville and they may be rubbish or may have merit. If you or others think it is a good idea to get a cup date for Nashville I’m ok with it. I seriously doubt it will happen but if it does it does.

    BTW Nashville is not in the southeastern US!
     
  7. gnomesayin

    gnomesayin Team Owner

    Sounds likely and more realistic than than the formulated plans for Nashville. I would support a Rockingham revival too, as I like to see good race tracks prosper, and place them above my enthusiasm for industrial parks, strip malls, and tax collectors.

    I'm leaning toward rubbish, as I asked for clarification on a couple key claims and received none. I'm picking up that you have a grudge against Nashville and a fringe alternate theory on basic geography and US history. Otherwise, it's all quite murky other than that racing-related misfortune brings you delight.
     
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  8. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    Best for who?
     
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  9. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Team Owner

    Sorry but you ain’t exactly Kreskin when it comes to mind reading as I have always been very fond of Nashville. IDK what is up with the racing misfortune thing.
     
  10. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    The heck it's not! It's well south of the M-D line and well east of the Mississippi R.
    Sadly, we agree on that point.
     
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  11. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    some are incapable of being honest, I wouldn't expect clarification, when another lie is easier to tell.
     
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  12. gnomesayin

    gnomesayin Team Owner

    I grew up in the Midwest and now live in the Northwest. I will rely on the actual Southerners I know, and established elementary geography and history, rather than the leading alternate theories emerging from Ontario, Canada.

    About the only Canadian authorities on the South I would pay heed to were The Band.
     
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  13. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Team Owner

    Where in the midwest? Vermont?
     
  14. gnomesayin

    gnomesayin Team Owner

    I wish.
     
  15. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    I think you need to turn your map around.
     
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  16. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Team Owner

    I am partial to the Green Mountain State myself.
     
  17. sky

    sky Zombie Zoom LLC

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    Definitely the south, might not seem like it in certain hipster neighborhoods though. I think we are alll aware that a revival of Nashville and the Rock will be good for the sport. I'm not in favor of tax payer money going to it either but my pro-historic short track bias makes me look the other way.
     
  18. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Team Owner

    I spend several days in Nashville 3-4 times a year and with the influx of people it ain’t southern like it was 40 years ago.

    IMO the citizens of Nashville should not so much as pay for a curb cut with any work done in and around the track.
     
  19. gnomesayin

    gnomesayin Team Owner

    Goalpost moving, and a familiar refrain heard from observers of any city that experiences substantial growth. Heard it 20 years ago about Charlotte. So Nashville was in the southeastern US 40 years ago? I don't think the tectonic plates have shifted that much in that period.

    I'm glad you enjoy Nashville. Cool town. Lots of good changes have come with the recent growth, and surely some negative ones as well.
     
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  20. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Team Owner

    I don’t consider Nashville to be part of the southeast just like I don’t see the state of Florida being part of it either. Florida is definitely geographically southeast but it is about as southern as St. Cloud
     
  21. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    You didn't say it wasn't southern, you said wasn't in the southeast. The first is a question of culture, the second of geography.
     
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  22. Larsonfan1995

    Larsonfan1995 Team Owner

    Get off the coasts and out of the cities and it's southern as it gets
     
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  23. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    This. Especially northern Florida. "The further north you go, the more southern it gets" is very real.
     
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  24. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    I think it's a good strategy to out the biggest NIMBYs around when they inevitably 'realize' they live next a race track and complain about it. :rolleyes:
     
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  25. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Team Owner

    I was in Venice recently and I had to buy a walker just to fit in. By the time I reached Bonita Springs I thought I might have to purchase an electric scooter.
     
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  26. gnomesayin

    gnomesayin Team Owner

  27. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    Sounds like its coming down to Put up or shut up time.
     
  28. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    I'd say bail. Looks like a mess in a mess.
     
  29. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    Time to get flammed but here goes: Hey Marcus @SMI.... This Nashville project gets messier by the day. Take the money you were going to use to remake Nashville and put it towards Wilkesboro. Theres no apartments, Soccer stadium or hipster residents to dodge because they moved next to a race track. Build it and they will come........
     
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  30. Larsonfan1995

    Larsonfan1995 Team Owner

    Hopefully the NASCAR directed shills on here see this and relay the message
     
  31. gnomesayin

    gnomesayin Team Owner

    According to the article in the Tennesseean, the money Marcus was wanting to spend included $52 million of public bonds and $2 million cash from the city of Nashville. The mayor's public stance is that he will reject a deal using public money. I suspect Wilkesboro isn't able to contribute that kind of funding either.
     
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  32. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    I don't think the money from Nashville would be enough to rebuild NWilkes to 21st century standards. Even it SMI was interested in a track of those dimensions, it would probably build a new one closer to an urban area. Either way, there'd be the question of getting it on a schedule. Last time I checked, even Nashville didn't have a guaranteed date.
     
  33. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    I wonder if Hizzoner says the same things to the Titans?
     
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  34. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    Who is paying for the soccer stadium? The city MLS or private ownership?
     
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  35. gnomesayin

    gnomesayin Team Owner

    Fair question. I don't know the answer for the current mayor, but historically, the Oilers didn't leave Houston for Nashville because they were looking for somewhere to spend their own money.
     
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  36. mack

    mack Team Owner

    I will forward the message ASAP to all the France family, Helton and my pet Unicorn. Thanks for the suggestion.
     
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  37. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    That damn unicorn is a no-talent hack who wouldn't have a ride if it wasn't for the family sponsoring him. He should get out and free up a seat for a deserving pegasus or griffin who worked his way up through the ranks.
     
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  38. gnomesayin

    gnomesayin Team Owner

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  39. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

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  40. AuzGrams

    AuzGrams Team Owner

    I just don't see why they can't keep the MLS stadium plan, scrap the apartments/condos, and renovate the racetrack, doesn't seem that difficult to me but what do I know. I guess they want apartments that bad.
     

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