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ted@economy said:
I'd go with Charlie's thoughts on Richmond . Giving your wife the option of going to the race or a plantation tour should make her happy,happy,happy.
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A tour of planatations? As in a tour of places where slaves were tortured, killed and forced to work for free for several generations? They have tours for that? Are people actually proud of that chit?
 
FenderBumper said:
It is a bit sad that today a paint job is mearly wrapping a car with the sponsors billboard ad, with little time taken to make it look like a race car.
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I hear ya FB. The thing that really sucks is that it has put a lot of very talented painters and pinstipers out of business. But, it is so much more cost effective and less time consuming to wrap vs paint.
 
All plantations did not have slaves, my forefathers owned large plantations (farms) but never owned a slave. All farms did not have slaves, all frogs dont have warts, all feet dont stink and all people named matt, nevermind this isnt the forum and I love this thread.
 
Hey DP theres a replay of the Bristol night race on speed channel, came on at 11 central time.
 
Nitro Dude said:
I hear ya FB. The thing that really sucks is that it has put a lot of very talented painters and pinstipers out of business. But, it is so much more cost effective and less time consuming to wrap vs paint.
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I agree. But I guess a lot of very talented graphic designers now have another place to ply their trade. It probably all balances out in the end.
 
Nitro Dude said:
I hear ya FB. The thing that really sucks is that it has put a lot of very talented painters and pinstipers out of business. But, it is so much more cost effective and less time consuming to wrap vs paint.
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I don't blame it all on wrapping. The teams could design some pinstriping into those skins if sponsors would allow it. Some teams still do add style, more so in NW.

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Nitro Dude said:
That is true also.
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Much like the shade-tree mechanic of NA$$CAR's earlier days has given way to engineers and computer programmers, the art of decorating a racecar has gone from experienced painters to graphic designers.

Is it good or bad? I don't know. It just is the price of progress, I suppose!
 
FenderBumper said:
I don't blame it all on wrapping. The teams could design some pinstriping into those skins if sponsors would allow it. Some teams still do add style, more so in NW.

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Last I heard the 24 and a couple other HMS cars still get paint jobs because of Dupont, havent heard anything in a while though.
 
TexasRaceLady said:
If my poor memory serves, real paint adds weight to a car. I believe a wrap is lighter, is more aerodynamic, faster and easier to apply. With the multiple paint schemes most teams use now days, it is much more efficient to wrap, than to paint.
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Your memory is perfect TRL. Everything you said is spot on. Weight is such a big deal in racing and it can cost a lot of money to put a car on a diet. We estimate about $1000.00 per pound because titanium bolts and carbon fiber can get pretty expensive. Even our injector hats are made out of carbon fiber and our clutch can is titanium. It used to cost about an extra $15,000.00 when we used to put titanium trees and wing struts in the bodies.
 
Nitro Dude said:
Your memory is perfect TRL. Everything you said is spot on. Weight is such a big deal in racing and it can cost a lot of money to put a car on a diet. We estimate about $1000.00 per pound because titanium bolts and carbon fiber can get pretty expensive. Even our injector hats are made out of carbon fiber and our clutch can is titanium. It used to cost about an extra $15,000.00 when we used to put titanium trees and wing struts in the bodies.
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All that work and expense, then Newman gets in the car. :mad:
 
FenderBumper said:
Obviously, you subscribe to the old school meaning of wanker. That being the case, don't let the talent part slow you down. ;)
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There's a new school meaning? Switching hands slows me down.
Matthew2470 said:
I should add that money is a factor.:D
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Money is a factor? The view from M'ville turns 1 or 2 is a bargain at $55. I've sat on the bottom row at Richmond and been able to see about 85% of the racing. If you really want to save money, have you considered ARCA at Salem IN or even GrandAm at Indy? Yeah, it ain't Cup, but you could probably do both for less than a Cup trip

I could have gotten you into Darlington for the 50% military discount. 'M just sayin'.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Money is a factor? The view from M'ville turns 1 or 2 is a bargain at $55. I've sat on the bottom row at Richmond and been able to see about 85% of the racing. If you really want to save money, have you considered ARCA at Salem IN or even GrandAm at Indy? Yeah, it ain't Cup, but you could probably do both for less than a Cup trip

I could have gotten you into Darlington for the 50% military discount. 'M just sayin'.
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The part about sending my wife on a cruise is what would be cost prohibitive.

Race tickets are relatively cheap IMO. It's the gas, food and lodging that adds up.
 
Matthew2470 said:
A tour of planatations? As in a tour of places where slaves were tortured, killed and forced to work for free for several generations? They have tours for that? Are people actually proud of that chit?
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Just because there are tours of a property doesn't mean everything on the tour is a source of pride. After all, there are tours of Auschwitz, Los Alamos, and the Salem witch trials.

Most plantation tours no longer sugarcoat or avoid acknowledging slavery as the source of the South's wealth. Where physical artifacts still exist, they'll present the working conditions and living quarters not proudly but to acknowledge the inhumanity of the South's 'Peculiar Institution'. Architecturally, tours of the mansions, houses, and their furnishings provide examples of the styles common throughout the country during the period, whether they were build by Southern slaves or paid Northern laborers. Some tours detail the methods and processes common to the preservation or restoration of 200 year old buildings regardless of location or origin; Jefferson's 'Poplar Forest' is great for this. On other properties, little remains of the original grounds and facilities; the properties have been put to other uses and the tour describes the original features and the processes of decay and rehabilitation. And let's acknowledge that several properties happen to have been the homes of US presidents, worth touring for the stories of their historically significant inhabitants.

But you can always view things from the socially acceptable side and visit the many battlefields in central VA.
 
Matthew2470 said:
It's the gas, food and lodging that adds up.
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Agreed. My old man and I usually do it on the cheap. Cold cuts and bread to make our own sandwiches, soda instead of beer, whichever vehicle gets the best mileage. You probably have the best chance of getting a decent rate on a hotel if you go to Richmond. There are more hotels overall, and they aren't as dependent making all their money in just two weekends a year. Isn't it the closest of the three? The advantage of the day races is that when they're over, you still have time to get far enough away from the track to get to where the hotels don't jack the rates up.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Agreed. My old man and I usually do it on the cheap. Cold cuts and bread to make our own sandwiches, soda instead of beer, whichever vehicle gets the best mileage. You probably have the best chance of getting a decent rate on a hotel if you go to Richmond. There are more hotels overall, and they aren't as dependent making all their money in just two weekends a year. Isn't it the closest of the three? The advantage of the day races is that when they're over, you still have time to get far enough away from the track to get to where the hotels don't jack the rates up.
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Hampton Inn - Kingsport TN (20 miles from Bristol) is $345 per night during August race weekend compared to $95 per night any non-race weekend.

Hampton Inn - Richmond VA (6 miles from track) $92 per night during race weekend.

As far as food, we travel with sandwiches and snacks and generally avoid stopping for anything other than restrooms. But once we get to our destination we like to eat at various locally owned restaurants based on recommendations from websites and locals. The problem this year is that my wife doesn't want to go anywhere near a race track where as I feel that going somewhere and laying on a beach would be boring as hell. Then it ends up in a fight.Ain't nobody got time for that!

So yeah, it looks like it will be Aiden and I going to Richmond in September. :)
 
I posted that picture on facebook awhile back and got a lot of funny feedback.

That top clasp hanging on for dear life and the potential consequences of its failure was one of the funnier things I read.
 
I wish Hass Avocados would come back as a sponsor. I was always wanting to see the Avocado car wreck so that an announcer could say "The Hass Avocado car has just become guacamole..."
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AMA Supercross starts tonight. For me it's always a great gap filler before NASCAR begins.

Go Bubba, Go!
 
DVR alert for you Gordon fans.

Gordon to appear on "I Get That a Lot": #24- Jeff Gordon will be featured in a one-hour special of "I GET THAT A LOT," airing Wednesday, Jan. 9 at 8 p.m. ET on the CBS Television Network. Other celebrities appearing in the special include actress Jane Seymour, actor and comedian Cheech Marin, former Olympian Bruce Jenner, late actor Larry Hagman and Phil Keoghan from "The Amazing Race." "I GET THAT A LOT" features celebrities tricking everyday citizens in cases of supposed "mistaken identity." Working ordinary jobs, the celebrities confuse customers who can't decide if it's the actual celebrity or an astonishing look-alike.(NASCAR), see a clip from the show on Jeff Gordon's website
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
DVR alert for you Gordon fans.

Gordon to appear on "I Get That a Lot": #24- Jeff Gordon will be featured in a one-hour special of "I GET THAT A LOT," airing Wednesday, Jan. 9 at 8 p.m. ET on the CBS Television Network. Other celebrities appearing in the special include actress Jane Seymour, actor and comedian Cheech Marin, former Olympian Bruce Jenner, late actor Larry Hagman and Phil Keoghan from "The Amazing Race." "I GET THAT A LOT" features celebrities tricking everyday citizens in cases of supposed "mistaken identity." Working ordinary jobs, the celebrities confuse customers who can't decide if it's the actual celebrity or an astonishing look-alike.(NASCAR), see a clip from the show on Jeff Gordon's website
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They should have Jeff greeting patrons and parking cars at a fancy restaurant.
 
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