Yet they’re still in the sport. Doesn’t really matter where they ultimately end up, they drive talent through the pipeline who may not otherwise have gotten a chance. I don’t see Ford doing much in that regard. Chevy has JRM at least but that operation is still dependent upon pay drivers to a degree.
The pipeline is a dead end.
Not every single driver will thrive in the system they have in place.
While I categorically disagree with your opinion about the business model, I think yours is a fair description of it...except it is more of a competition model rather than a business one. I will openly admit that I like F1 because of the manufacturer involvement....and I like Toyota's direction which arguably is F1-esque. Difference of opinion. All good.
Is the ink dry on Tyler's contract. Do you know who will be in the 19 after next year? I know where to look. Are you Tony Stewart?
One win between them? Did I miss something?
Do you mean like when all the Ford teams had a meeting with Edsel at the track and they came out with the "One Ford" strategy???
Both are pretty successful with their respected teams.
A common mistake I see often around this board is judging drivers solely on racing performance. Off the track stuff (relationships, sponsor engagements, behavior, team chemistry etc) matter a lot. If you're not winning a lot, or almost winning a lot, and you don't have any of that other stuff I mentioned, you're not going to last long at top competitive teams, especially Toyotas. Without getting into details, the two you mention come to mind. People also forget that Daniel spent a few hours at SHR. What happened there?
The only place? You can ask around the garage one day. Drop Barney Visser a note, see how he feels as well. Coach is a cutthroat business man who has cut a lot of throats to get to where he is in the sport, both friendly throats and otherwise. Does that make him different than most other owners or big time successful business leaders? Not really. But it is what it is.
Thank you lol.
It's honestly not even a knock on coach. He's just like all the rest of them, tbh.
eh, we have a poster that thinks he really can walk on water. Thinks Barney jumped for joy when he got screwed over.
Super well said.
If Toyota paid drivers wouldn’t they have re-signed Kyle already? They’ve been pretty clear that sponsorship drives the boat. TRD-supported entries are covered in the wraps of big brands each week. These guys probably have a PSC as a Toyota ambassador and that’s it.
Gragson, Deegan, Byron. Larson. Rudy Fugle crew chief, Tony Stewart, Zippy
Holy ****. His entire head of hair looks gray
Smoke left to form his own team, Rudy left because he wanted to do cup and they weren't moving him up, I imagine Zippy left because his loyalty to Smoke.
And Jesus wept…
It used to be a big deal for most fans until the mid 2000's until the bland COT came in. Chevy vs. Ford was a big deal and etc. Toyota gets so much hate from fans because they're "not an American company." That's still big with a lot of NASCAR fans, especially the older ones.
Pretty sure Smoke even said back then he didn’t wanna drive a Toyota… so he definitely left because of that.
Gosh, I thought I was the pedant around here.
As a fan of NASCAR since the 60s, I am right there with you. I am a fan of the driver, I could care less if he is driving a KIA or a Ferrari...but it would be cool if he was!
For what
Facebook is a cesspool of racist southern NASCAR fans who know nothing about the sport or culture.
