Spencer “Party Like It’s 1989” Gallagher issued Substance Abuse Penalty

He is a doctor. Kurt's an idiot.
That’s the whole point of why I found it humorous, Kurt was a huge idiot that day.
Dr. Jerry is one of the classiest people that has ever been associated with this sport. I REALLY wish he was still part of the current broadcast teams.
Best pit reporter ever IMO. I always learned something when he spoke. Not sure I get that these days
Sometimes it is a Godsend to have a doctor around, and Kurt Busch should know that. Why would a racer mock someone who comes to the track every week even if it's not his main day job? Here is a piece about Jerry Punch saving three drivers who lived to race another day...
http://racing-reference.info/showblog?id=3021
That’s a fascinating read
None of that cracked me up. Dr Punch is a great guy and would do anything for anyone and Kurt Busch was a POS that day and deserved what he got.
Ended up losing his ride, not much worse than that
 
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Welp, you push the Cup drivers out, and this is what you get. #NamesAreMadeHere
 
Welp, you push the Cup drivers out, and this is what you get. #NamesAreMadeHere
No, this is not about the Cup drivers at all. This is about an Xfinity driver who made a major screw up and got caught.
I don't see how having Cup drivers in a race would have prevented him from getting caught in a drug test.
 
I really like the kid and hope it was just some weed. He'll will be fine although I think he should still make the playoffs if he returns in time.
 
No, this is not about the Cup drivers at all. This is about an Xfinity driver who made a major screw up and got caught.
I don't see how having Cup drivers in a race would have prevented him from getting caught in a drug test.
I think he is insinuating that by finishing first he got banged with a DT. If there were Cup guys in the race he wouldn't of finished first. I get what he was saying, but don't agree with it.
 
Pretty much NASCAR probation.
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It is just amazing that every busted driver was immediately caught after using a banned substance for the very first time.
 
and then?
NASCAR officials said Mayfield has tested positive again for methamphetamine on a sample given July 6. Yes, again.
 
and then?
NASCAR officials said Mayfield has tested positive again for methamphetamine on a sample given July 6. Yes, again.
The second positive is the most amazing result to me. Pretty sure they used one of those loaded cocooned cradled drivers seats to work like a narcotics patch, to frame so many innocent young men.
Nailing Mayfield a second time probably took some extra methods, that remain classified to this day.
 

Maybe you need to do some because that's exactly what it is. They'll assign someone to his case and they'll work with him like a PO would to get his license back and subject to drug test when ever asked. Pretty much NASCAR probation.
 
I think he is insinuating that by finishing first he got banged with a DT. If there were Cup guys in the race he wouldn't of finished first. I get what he was saying, but don't agree with it.

He still could have won even with cup guys in it,the plate races are there best chances to win, and normally one of the few times they do win even with cup guys out there.
 
I'll never understand the stupidity of some people even if I live to be 200 years old. Just damn.

This.

and I can readily admit I have made a few choices that quite possibly endangered my employment. but every time I read a story about high profile/high paid people destroying an opportunity that most of the rest of us would die for, it just screams stupidity or addict.

and no, youth is not an excuse. get your $hit together boy. lesson one: it wasn't worth it. it's a long road back earning the place you just gave up.

JMO
 
This.

and I can readily admit I have made a few choices that quite possibly endangered my employment. but every time I read a story about high profile/high paid people destroying an opportunity that most of the rest of us would die for, it just screams stupidity or addict.

and no, youth is not an excuse. get your $hit together boy. lesson one: it wasn't worth it. it's a long road back earning the place you just gave up.

JMO

He drives for daddy’s race team... he’ll be back like nothing ever happened.


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he has the opportunity to look at and do something about the problem he has. It worked for A.J., didn't for Mayfield.
Okay. Something is fishy about this. If the kid smoked a little pot and it was on his off-time from the track, NASCAR needs to STFU and let it go. If it was meth or heroin, then maybe they have a leg to stand on. Pot has a very short term effect on the nervous system, and shouldn't be a banned substance unless it can be shown that the driver used it right before getting in the car.
Did he get into Denny's adderall?
No one knows because NASCAR is shady and won't release the results. Bunch of hypocrites in the executive suite. They're all a bunch of drunks.
We test people for drugs as a employment requirement, blood and or urine in the AM result in the PM same day.
Good for you. Are you in a business that involves safety? If not, you're wasting your money.
 
No one knows because NASCAR is shady and won't release the results. Bunch of hypocrites in the executive suite. They're all a bunch of drunks.
not the case at all. Disclosing someones drug test publicly in many states is illegal
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Good for you. Are you in a business that involves safety? If not, you're wasting your money.
employers insurance demands a drug test in the case of an injury.
 
Always interesting to note that those that dislike Kurt generally go out of their way to defend the guy who 1) took anger management classes, 2) went after Darrell Waltrip on live TV in a demeaning way, 3) stated that NASCAR was fixed like wresting, and 4) admitted on national TV that he wrecked a former employee on purpose
Hey. Hey. Hey. Don't bust on Kurt. He is NASCAR royalty. His little brother is an idiot though.
 
Okay. Something is fishy about this. If the kid smoked a little pot and it was on his off-time from the track, NASCAR needs to STFU and let it go. If it was meth or heroin, then maybe they have a leg to stand on. Pot has a very short term effect on the nervous system, and shouldn't be a banned substance unless it can be shown that the driver used it right before getting in the car.
Meth cocaine and herion leaves your system faster then the THC in pot. Alcohol is processed an ounce an hour in your liver. You can be legally drunk the next day from a bender and fail a blood test.
 
Not if the participant agrees to release his PHI.
that wasn't the question, statement whatever: No one knows because NASCAR is shady and won't release the results. Bunch of hypocrites in the executive suite. They're all a bunch of drunks.
 
employers insurance demands a drug test in the case of an injury.
Yep. I agree. If you are injured on the job, or cause damage to a company vehicle or property, you should be tested. But not a single insurance company requires pre-employment screening unless the position is safety sensitive by definition. Most companies only use the pre-employment screening to eliminate people from the employment pool, even it they are qualified for the job. It's an excuse to discriminate against people.
The second positive is the most amazing result to me. Pretty sure they used one of those loaded cocooned cradled drivers seats to work like a narcotics patch, to frame so many innocent young men.
Nailing Mayfield a second time probably took some extra methods, that remain classified to this day.
You never know how far a major corporation will go to cover up their first error. Mayfield obviously pissed off someone high up in the organization to deserve this kind of scrutiny and conspiracy. Oh, never mind. I haven't slept in 86 hours, and I'm getting a little tin-foiled here.
Meth cocaine and herion leaves your system faster then the THC in pot. Alcohol is processed an ounce an hour in your liver. You can be legally drunk the next day from a bender and fail a blood test.
Yes, but the actual effects of THC wear off in a very short period of time. Just because it is traceable in your system doesn't mean it is affecting you. That's why there is no reliable test for marijuana DWI in state where it is legal. They can't separate the people that are actually high from those that smoked it 8 hours earlier.
 
Not if the participant agrees to release his PHI.
Then that's up to Gallagher, but I haven't seen you criticize him for not releasing it.
Okay. Something is fishy about this. If the kid smoked a little pot and it was on his off-time from the track, NASCAR needs to STFU and let it go. If it was meth or heroin, then maybe they have a leg to stand on. Pot has a very short term effect on the nervous system, and shouldn't be a banned substance unless it can be shown that the driver used it right before getting in the car.
NASCAR has every leg to stand on. It's their series so they make the rules. If they want those rules to be stricter than the law, that's up to them too. If Gallagher doesn't want to comply with those rules, he was always free to find a series with less restrictive ones. (It's kinda like forums that have rules regarding posted content.)
Yes, but the actual effects of THC wear off in a very short period of time. Just because it is traceable in your system doesn't mean it is affecting you. That's why there is no reliable test for marijuana DWI in state where it is legal. They can't separate the people that are actually high from those that smoked it 8 hours earlier.
You're making NASCAR's case with this post. The point isn't if a driver is affected mentally at the time he's tested. Since NASCAR can't tell when the driver took the substance, they can't tell if he was affected during a race and was possibly a danger to others. They also can't tell when he'll take it again in the future, also possibly at a time when he'd endanger others.
 
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Yep. I agree. If you are injured on the job, or cause damage to a company vehicle or property, you should be tested. But not a single insurance company requires pre-employment screening unless the position is safety sensitive by definition. Most companies only use the pre-employment screening to eliminate people from the employment pool, even it they are qualified for the job. It's an excuse to discriminate against people.
Safety has nothing to do with whether an accountant is getting the books wrong or a salesman is mismanaging customer accounts or a network administrator is deleting the wrong things. It does have something to do with whether someone can't navigate the parking lot or walk up the stairs or walk past operating machinery, although I don't think that's how you meant 'safety'.

We had a computer-using employee goofed on pain killers for a while. Every stinkin' day he'd call me because he couldn't remember his passwords, sometimes three or four times a day. Every time he'd get out a sheet of paper and write the password down. His cube was littered with passwords, literally a couple of dozen sheets, some with the same usernames and passwords on them several times. Then he'd stare at his screen for several minutes trying to remember where he'd stored his work from the previous day. Often he couldn't find it and would start over. Oddly enough, all of these behaviors became less noticeable the farther we'd get into a month and his prescriptions began to run out.

Was it a safety issue? No. Was he wasting my time and the company's dollars? Undeniably. THAT'S why companies test as part of the hiring process: because no one wants to hire a waste of time and money.
 
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Most companies only use the pre-employment screening to eliminate people from the employment pool, even it they are qualified for the job. It's an excuse to discriminate against people.

Works for me. Anything that makes it easier for us that don't self-medicate to get and keep those jobs.
 
Safety has nothing to do with whether an accountant is getting the books wrong or a salesman is mismanaging customer accounts or a network administrator is deleting the wrong things. It does have something to do with whether someone can't navigate the parking lot or walk up the stairs or walk past operating machinery, although I don't think that's how you meant 'safety'.

We had a computer-using employee goofed on pain killers for a while. Every stinkin' day he'd call me because he couldn't remember his passwords, sometimes three or four times a day. Every time he'd get out a sheet of paper and write the password down. His cube was littered with passwords, literally a couple of dozen sheets, some with the same usernames and passwords on them several times. Then he'd stare at his screen for several minutes trying to remember where he'd stored his work from the previous day. Often he couldn't find it and would start over. Oddly enough, all of these behaviors became less noticeable the farther we'd get into a month and his prescriptions began to run out.

Was it a safety issue? No. Was he wasting my time and the company's dollars? Undeniably. THAT'S why companies test as part of the hiring process: because no one wants to hire a waste of time and money.

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