Storage building

[KTMLew01]

I did set-up a stop-block system when was cutting the ones I have to 47. Why I didn't do 46 is a mystery to me. If I do start over will buy sheet of 1/2 plywood to make gussets. Used old OSB and I hate that stuff. Splinter city.

 

[KTMLew01]

Otay buttwheat! We have to make a decision. Do I cut 7" off lower rafter and make the damn things fit a 10 foot span (probably the simplest) or fabricobble some framing 90* angle doohickies for the truss to set on. Plan was to run 12 foot 2x4's across then trim them as needed for overhang. But realized I don't need 22 foot of loft. Probably 8 foot likely right over where OG rear wall was. In the middle basically. Then can access from either side. Have two sheets of 3/4 T&G left over. That should hold about anything I can lift. Gave up trying to do layout of rafters on OSB lying on trailer. While easier on back (maybe) just too saggy and sucks. I'll just have to toughen up and get down on my knees.

Am I over-thinking? Nah...I'd never do that. They say rain be coming so covered everything up. Be 10 days before can buy any more crap.

 

[KTMLew01]

Finally figured something out. Will glue, screw and gusset.

 

[KTMLew01]

Rained quite bit yesterday and last night. Didn't think about the rafters, sitting on the ground, sucking up water. Need to attach the wedges so probably be best to let them dry so glue sticks. Hung them up. Probably put the wedges on with them hanging. Have box fan running drying the deck. If get ambitious might set some up today?

 

[KTMLew01]

Think I'm done. Just can't do it.

 

[KTMLew01]

Found something I can do. Housecleaning. It finally occurred to me, have four 14 foot 2x8. Run them across structure and toss 3/4" OSB on for a scaffolding of sorts. So obvious. Maybe later today or next week?

 

[KTMLew01]

Got nothing done but stirring this septic tank. Back went full Roberto Duran. No Mas! At least now know how/what will do. Need to glue/screw wedges on 4 more truss and add gussets. String 2x8's across framing and lay OSB on. Be loft'ish. Couple or 10 screws so nothing moves. If get those 4 or 5 (I think) truss up, maybe try to put OSB on that section to kind of dry that end in? Can slide 7/16 roof sheathing on old roof. With blocks on edges, slide it into place on new section. The 2x8's will stick out 2 feet on each side so get some 2x4 to build a handrail. My #1 problem is psychosomatic. So terrified of heights my back locks up and can't move.

Buddy offered to come from Myrtle Beach to help. Hate asking anyone to do something for me especially something semi-dangerous. Climbing around on stuff when you past 65 y/o is dangerous. Don't care what some think. Hear of too many men retiring then die within couple years by falling on their head from fairly low height.

 

[KTMLew01]

Tomorrow toss the 3/4 OSB on and see if can reach. I'd think so. Those 2x8 are way heavier than I expected. Had to figure out a way to prop both ends up close to where I wanted it so only had to lift inch and screw it tight. Might pop a few nails in just to cover my arse.

 

[KTMLew01]

Woke up with back complaining. Got the OSB and one rafter precariously set. Not attached. Still think having 2x8 top plates is way to go.

 

[KTMLew01]

Hmmm? Couple angle braces then a block (pulley) at peak pull the rest up? I can't properly express my fear level. Have an 8x8 foot surface and can NOT stand straight up on it. Soooo frustrating. Planned to use the 2x8's as top cap...after week or so on front porch they look like barrel staves. Can't believe how much they warped. Warped in the direction of no way to straighten without making them 2x6. That would only last few hours before they turned into a Hot Wheels track. Would have to get them nailed fast!

Have I mentioned how much I suck at this? Or that I tend to overthink things not in my specialty?

She's gonna be plenty big though. Should have just done regular roof with 20-24" center rise. Been plenty of space. It's not too late?

 

[KTMLew01]

Either shorten the lower rafter 6ish inches (makes truss fit a 10 foot span/they are now 7ish inches wider span) with a 10 or 12 foot lower chord OR throw it all away and build complete new regular truss. Unfortunately neither of those options will put hair on my sack. Today was a really bad back day to do this stuff. Had trouble just walking around on level ground. Too many near falls from ground level. Makes me really nervous when 8 feet up.

Had a crazy thought...peel the shingles off the old section, clip small section out of rafter in middle and let "roof" sink to level, sister in a 9ish foot board. Use the old roof as a loft/temp work surface. Suspect will end up with couple 4 x 8 lofts and full length side lofts.

 

[KTMLew01]

Purchased 16 Spruce twelve foot 2x4. $133 buckaroonies! 12 for rafter chord/loft. Rest for miscellaneous crap. Cut 24ish inches off 12 of them, now 119.5, to fit framing width of shed. Will use the cut-off 24 inchers for blocking or toothpicks. Maybe hourish of werk and I'm killed. Only way this gets dried in before next spring is if somebody else does it. Need to make a large tee-square. Hang the rafters on wall and use the tee-square to figure out square & plumbers. I'm certain about 1/2 are screwed up. Since going to cut 6ish inches off, think can compensate then. Six off one side, 6 & 1/4 off other. Maybe. Or I might multiply?

Also went to Lowes to get more Simpson Strong-Tie paraphernalia. They had 4...count them, four, of the ties I needed. So came home and ordered 24 pack from Amazoooon! Be here Friday. Did get the nails at Lowes tho.

(took several attempts to speil parapharmologogical or whatever that werd is/was/will be)---the her in the middle just doesn't look right?

 

[KTMLew01]

Bad back day. I due nuthing.

 

[KTMLew01]

Cut 7 inches off. The rafter. Now have to do it eleven more times. Wish I could train the carpenter bees to do something other than drill holes in my pretty new wood. Best wood had in couple years.

 

[KTMLew01]

Just set that one up, clamped, to look at it. Even managed to stand up on the platform. Next is shorten and add lower chord/framing/siding to end one. Once get the end up won't feel like gonna fall off so bad. Will likely move the other one to middleish position. Really need to climb on old roof and cut edge back maybe 6 inches? Just the shingles & sheeting then build the new roof right over it & cut the old roof out in sections I suppose.

Wonder is anyone has had success training carpenter bees to do more than drill holes? Got plenty.

 

[KTMLew01]

Disregard last transmission. A technical glitch introduced alternative facts into a well planned mission.

Since adding lower chord to rafter, would have to cut a 3" wide slot in old roof to set in place. I'm estimating thirdish 3" cut would result in the "cutter" being ingested into the bowels of the old roof/shed/parts cleaner, etc. Bad idear...

Also...after further review of latest iteration of rafter...I cut too much off. Meant to have 1/2-5/8 inch overhang. Will have a "hatband" around top of siding with roof extending over that. I'm overthunking again.

Can cut some spacers and glue to end of rafter leg. It really doesn't matter. Not actually setting on them anyway. Kinda ceremonial.

 

[KTMLew01]

So those that don't get me...I was raised on this kind of humor. Love it!

 

[KTMLew01]

Would like to have put the siding on but was struggling badly. While rafter has 4 screws holding it up there, not perfectly centered. Started getting windy. Had it clamped but since storm coming figured better to put some screws in. Next trip might lay it down on the platform and try to do the siding again. Was fighting with the old stuff that came off back wall.

 

[KTMLew01]

Now know need to lay the siding out and cut to 55" height. Quit messing around with it. Trim angles with it attached. Want a router anyway.

 

[KTMLew01]

Scrubbed old siding with bleach spray other night while drizzling. Let set in the rain to rinse off. Looks much better. Need to cut into 54ish" sections and nail to rafter. Going to make rest as identical as I can. Set one at front of new section and run three strings. Then can set others, trim as needed. Some will need slightly more than 6 inches cut off one "leg".

 

[KTMLew01]

Squared up one edge of the old siding. Just didn't feel like doing much today tho. Could and windy. Maybe get more rafters assembled tomorrow? Maybe? Had a neighbor that's done carpentry work stop and look at what I have done. Said it looks fine. Agrees that need to get rafters all done, peel the old roof off and set ends/gables up so can string it. Then git er did boi!

Good chance peel the siding off the old 10 foot section and replace it. Five more sheets siding. But that siding has nearly foot rotted off anyway. Siding is 35 bucks sheet tho. Ouch.

 

[KTMLew01]

edit kicked me out...

May end up getting house wrap to do temporary enclosure? Like to be able to run 2x8's thru the framing to create scaffolding on full length. Maybe can work then without my back locking up.

 

[aunty dive]

 

[KTMLew01]

Have some schedule 40 pipe gonna run thru the walls and pump helium in. That should hold the roof up. The shingles will hold the framing/sheathing down. It's a fine balance.

 

[KTMLew01]

Look what I did!!! Now the OSB/shingle lift is a must. Peel old roof off and throw this thang together!

 

[KTMLew01]

Turned wintery again. Too cold and windy for my weak butt. Maybe get after it next week? Still letting things dry from at least 24 hours of rain.

 

[KTMLew01]

We be getting sheet done! Will set a bunch more tomorrow assuming I can stand up and move around. I drug it up close to where it belonged then couple guys helped stand it up. Noice!!! The next 10 will be easier if you don't count removing the old rooooof!

 

[KTMLew01]

Went out and set two more basically in the dark. I'm having serious doubts.

#1...I don't need 100+ sq ft of loft space.
#2...if I fall off from any height...I'll die from a heart attack even if I land on 6 stacked mattress.
#3...I'm tarriffied.

Good chance gonna scrap these and build regular roof.

Self preservation is kicking in.

 

[Whizzer]

Awwww, screw it. Bite the bullet and pay a couple guys to finish it. You'll be sorry if you lost that storage. Most guys have gobs of items with little to no value looking for a place to reside. Things that someone else will have to dispose of after you move or die.

 

[KTMLew01]

Awwww, screw it. Bite the bullet and pay a couple guys to finish it. You'll be sorry if you lost that storage. Most guys have gobs of items with little to no value looking for a place to reside. Things that someone else will have to dispose of after you move or die.

You are a mean man.

No strings used. OSB will bend enough to fit. Need to nail them together @ the peak spacers. Maybe run an angle brace? Main thing that's affecting my rectal seal is the darned air compressor. About sharted a number of times.

Think I'll run a couple strings when I get out of the recliner. Watching Medium. Loved that series.

 

[KTMLew01]

Probably extend the temporary loft/work surface thru rest of shed. At some point very soon no choice about removing the old roof. Good chance going to do the sheathing technically wrong. Not much overlap/offset. Maybe 24" instead of the usual 4 feet.

 

[Whizzer]

Looking good! Gonna be a room big enough for a barn dance. Now all you gotta do is get the band lined up.

 

[KTMLew01]

Looking good! Gonna be a room big enough for a barn dance. Now all you gotta do is get the band lined up.

Be for shorty's tho. 50ish inches from floor of loft to under peak. I really screwed this whole thing up. Should have done regular roof with 20ish inches rise. Much easier to set and roof. Be plenty of loft now considering 22 foot length. Probably will cut the lower 2x4 out @ 18 inches from wall for most of the length. Make side lofts plus a 4x8 at rear wall and a 4x8 at 10 foot mark which was OG back wall.

Plan to have a 4 foot wide door on front gable so if necessary have access that way. May end up with 16-20 foot of loft? Not sure why but?

 

[KTMLew01]

Just nuked a 2.5lb Roast in the Instant Pot. Finished at 10:45PM. Crazy how much water they pump in them at the store. Get maybe half the size cooked. Plenty for a single person tho. Be eating it for 3-4 days. Man the Instant Pot is awesome for these. Falls apart taking it out-o-the-pot. Love it for cold sandwich with Mayo.

 

[KTMLew01]

I feel it taunting me.

The shed, not the roast beast.

 

[KTMLew01]

Not much gonna happen today. Had brief dizziness on step ladder maybe 18" off floor. Just so random.

The last rafter I set was spun 180*. Lower chord was on wrong side. Since peak was attached to others with a block, was easy enough to just move the lower 2x4 to other side. Can't set any more without removing old roof. Probably have to do roof on new side first. God I hate the thought. Really need a taller/better ladder so can do drip edge. No way I can do it from on the roof. Just can't stand looking over the end. Need to drop/move the platform and slide that OSB onto the lower chord for loft. Not sure if can spin it around without losing it. Suppose could put temporary blocking in so can't tip and fall thru?

 

[KTMLew01]

Was out talking to a buddy on the phone, avoiding actually doing anything, as was hanging up phone stepped out door, twisted ankle, nearly sexually assaulted the air compressor but it was successfully defended by the 2x8 striking top of my dome. Never went down! Seemed like took 10 minutes.

 

[KTMLew01]

Think will hang winch from blocking between rafters with short chain. Drag OSB up some long broads.

 

[KTMLew01]

Need couple short 3/8 course thread bolts to connect leads for winch to side post battery. Everything I have is metric. But really like to extend the wires to the winch remote so have more distance from the wreck that could happen. Have some bullet connectors but not sure they can handle the amps. I'm thinking. Boss wouldn't even let me eat lunch till nearly 1:30. He's an arse hole.

 

[KTMLew01]

Hate this freaking time limit on editing!!!

Did move one of the sheets of OSB into loft space. Wasn't terribly dramatic. Used the work bench to catch it then pushed one end up where it belonged. Once wedged pulled bench back and stood on bench, drug the OSB into place. There is absolutely nothing stopping me from dragging some OSB onto rafters with winch but my procrastination. Weather is absolutely perfect. I just can't make myself do it.

Maybe hit it again later?