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I would have to disagree, I'm quite looking forward to clint in the booth, it's gonna be quite funny with conversations always heading to left field.
I doubt we need any more from the left field, there are to many of those already with Mickey at the head of the class.
 

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So I’m switching channels in between the National Title game and NBA Basketball, I find ESPN has one of their stations to the local Bama radio call. What voice do I hear calling the play by play for The Tide? The sweet baritone sounds of Eli Gold! Gosh I wish he was still doing Cup races
 

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TV doesnt need a play by play or lap by lap announcer. It’s a visual medium. Radio calls are for the theater of the mind. Remove the play by play TV announcers and it would sound a lot more natural.
 

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TV doesnt need a play by play or lap by lap announcer. It’s a visual medium. Radio calls are for the theater of the mind. Remove the play by play TV announcers and it would sound a lot more natural.
I appreciate having someone tell me why that car pulled into the pits for a drive-thru penalty, or why one went behind the wall, or what broke to cause one to crash, or what happened on one section of track while I was watching another.
 

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I appreciate having someone tell me why that car pulled into the pits for a drive-thru penalty, or why one went behind the wall, or what broke to cause one to crash, or what happened on one section of track while I was watching another.
I draw the line when the gerbils turn into mini Dr. Phil's and explain what the driver is thinking. They don't have a clue what any of them are thinking...it could be what is for dinner.
 

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I draw the line when the gerbils turn into mini Dr. Phil's and explain what the driver is thinking. They don't have a clue what any of them are thinking...it could be what is for dinner.
My error; I didn't intend to imply I was getting what I wanted. I'd like Fox's booth crew with NBC's production crew. No, what I'd really like is for both networks to carry the MRN / PRN feed.
 

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My error; I didn't intend to imply I was getting what I wanted. I'd like Fox's booth crew with NBC's production crew. No, what I'd really like is for both networks to carry the MRN / PRN feed.
Oh I didn't think that at all. I just had to get my pet kick the gerbils peeve in there. Now with Ralph Sheehan loose from the motorcycles, he could replace them all and I would be tickled pink
 

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Oh I didn't think that at all. I just had to get my pet kick the gerbils peeve in there. Now with Ralph Sheehan loose from the motorcycles, he could replace them all and I would be tickled pink
Ralph really would be a home run hire to replace !!!RICK ALLEN!!! , but then I worry NBC would gerbalize him
 

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I appreciate having someone tell me why that car pulled into the pits for a drive-thru penalty, or why one went behind the wall, or what broke to cause one to crash, or what happened on one section of track while I was watching another.
Thats not play by play, thats commentary explaining what cant be seen by just looking at the TV. The “down the back stretch they go!” type of commentary is just dumb.

I think fans would rather hear engines and racing sounds than someone needlessly jabbering.
 

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I think fans would rather hear engines and racing sounds than someone needlessly jabbering.

To a certain extent yes mixed in, even though they do a pretty good job of it (most of the time). It seems once playoffs hit, that goes out the window, and the needless jabbering by nbc gets cranked up.

I think for beginning viewers it helps to have a guide to understand what is happening with the play by play too, Joy has been good for that part.
 

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I think for beginning viewers it helps to have a guide to understand what is happening with the play by play too,
I used to feel that way, but broadcasts of other sports get along without treating the entire audience like newbies. After a while, it gets annoying having tight and loose explained for the umpteenth time. Nobody finds it necessary to explain every week where the 'key' is on a basketball court, what 'icing' is during a hockey match, or what constitutes 'offsides' in soccer.

Incidentally, I don't know what any of those are, and I'm sure knowing would enhance my relative enjoyment, but not knowing doesn't stop me from watching soccer or hockey occasionally. I wouldn't watch basketball willingly no matter how much more I might learn about it.
 

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I used to feel that way, but broadcasts of other sports get along without treating the entire audience like newbies. After a while, it gets annoying having tight and loose explained for the umpteenth time. Nobody finds it necessary to explain every week where the 'key' is on a basketball court, what 'icing' is during a hockey match, or what constitutes 'offsides' in soccer.

Incidentally, I don't know what any of those are, and I'm sure knowing would enhance my relative enjoyment, but not knowing doesn't stop me from watching soccer or hockey occasionally. I wouldn't watch basketball willingly no matter how much more I might learn about it.
Yep spoon feeding newbees while insulting the vast majority of fans shows the ignorance and false pride some of the self appointed expert announcers and networks they have calling the races. To me that is part of the fun is learning about the sport as it unfolds.
 

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Yep spoon feeding newbees while insulting the vast majority of fans shows the ignorance and false pride some of the self appointed expert announcers and networks they have calling the races. To me that is part of the fun is learning about the sport as it unfolds.
I don't think it's the announcer's decision; I think it's the producers. The announcers can't que up those 'Cutaway' car graphics and cut to Larry Mac. That's on the production truck.
 

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I used to feel that way, but broadcasts of other sports get along without treating the entire audience like newbies. After a while, it gets annoying having tight and loose explained for the umpteenth time. Nobody finds it necessary to explain every week where the 'key' is on a basketball court, what 'icing' is during a hockey match, or what constitutes 'offsides' in soccer.

Incidentally, I don't know what any of those are, and I'm sure knowing would enhance my relative enjoyment, but not knowing doesn't stop me from watching soccer or hockey occasionally. I wouldn't watch basketball willingly no matter how much more I might learn about it.

Well that's true, if you're interested you're interested and there's multiple ways to learn outside of the broadcast. I'm just remembering back to when I first started watching with practice sessions and qualifying... and the takeaway I would get from that alone, just got me more into it having some of the technical jargon. The other half I was more referring to the guide of stating some of the obvious as it happens on track giving the commentary a baseline to play off of elaborate on. I don't mind that, so long as it's setting up more in depth commentary.
 

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I don't think it's the announcer's decision; I think it's the producers. The announcers can't que up those 'Cutaway' car graphics and cut to Larry Mac. That's on the production truck.
Your 100% right on that. My buddy is a Key Grip and at $3000. per hour some of them have swelled heads. The problem they have now is the guy in charge of the sound has a lot of say as we have seen on NBC where you can't even hear the announcers talk.
 

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3k per hour?!!
I have a friend who lives in N.H and works audio for Game Creek video, assigned to Glory "B" trailer. Travels the country, does everything from sports to C-Span .He certainly is underpaid. By about 100k a week...
 

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Tony has been all over the place with restrictor plate racing but I would love to see him go off on air. I think they only have one car in the Xfinity
 

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Our 2021 Fox Crew. The comments below this tweet a few have made fat jokes about Jeff Gordon. This makes me sad because....... I am right behind him about jokes being made. Sucks we cant stay 25 forever!
 

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Our 2021 Fox Crew. The comments below this tweet a few have made fat jokes about Jeff Gordon. This makes me sad because....... I am right behind him about jokes being made. Sucks we cant stay 25 forever!
It would help greatly if Jeff had a tailor look at that fitting. The buttons shouldn't pull at the top like that.
 

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Not sure if this is the right thread for this because he won't be in the booth but this is really cool. David Smith's podcast and website are fascinating.

 

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Not sure if this is the right thread for this because he won't be in the booth but this is really cool. David Smith's podcast and website are fascinating.

He's awesome, Positive Regression is one of my favorite NASCAR related podcasts. Motorsport Analytics is great for the advanced statistic junkies.

This is cool, I hope NASCAR does what the NFL are doing in terms of broadcasting in showing off said stats during broadcasts.
 

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This is cool, I hope NASCAR does what the NFL are doing in terms of broadcasting in showing off said stats during broadcasts.
I've had all the stats I can stand, thank you.

Golf now shows the speed and max altitude of a drive. So what? All that matters is how far the ball went and how much us left. Tiger and Phil don't stand in the tee talking smack about which one hit the ball the highest.

Just because a stat can be collected doesn't mean it's relevant. Fastest lap? Again, so what? As soon as the temp changes or the tires wear or the track rubbers up, it's meaningless.

Stats are crutches for Gerbils who don't have anything worth saying.
 

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That is a REAL gimmick. Falls into the catagory of Digger, the slow highspeed camera, and the historical wire cameragate gimmicks
 

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It's early, but my first impressions of the Mike Joy / Jeff Gordon / Clint Bowyer booth are that it's a home run, and vastly superior to the NBC infomercial style approach. Also an improvement on DW's waning years when he was past his prime, but reminiscent of his early years when he was quite good.

Mike and Jeff were highly competent and professional, but it felt sparse. Clint fills it out without overfilling it, and he and Jeff contrast nicely.
 

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It's early, but my first impressions of the Mike Joy / Jeff Gordon / Clint Bowyer booth are that it's a home run, and vastly superior to the NBC infomercial style approach. Also an improvement on DW's waning years when he was past his prime, but reminiscent of his early years when he was quite good.

Mike and Jeff were highly competent and professional, but it felt sparse. Clint fills it out without overfilling it, and he and Jeff contrast nicely.
I enjoyed the Fox guys presentation immensely last night, I am very optimistic they will get even better and like you said it will be a home run.
 
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