Larson's Run of Dirt Wins....

DUN24 said:
The difference is that sprint car races and big money late model races are not opening acts for the cup races. They aren't on the same tracks as the cup series. They aren't even close to similar. When Kyle Busch or Kyle Larson race in podunkville, USA, they aren't racing in cup equipment and support.
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Cup drivers have no say in where an Xfinity or Truck race is going to run and if its accompanying a Cup race then and they have a chance to race, why not? I'm not one to agree with putting a limit on when drivers can drive but they did it and I think they got it wrong. It'd be better if they just made 10 specific races rather than 10 when ever for a Cup driver if they want to limit drivers in lower series.
 
Blaze88 said:
I feel it's sorta of less impressive
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What feels less impressive? The racing? I'm not sure but it's always impressive to see a young guy beat a cup driver. Thats why I like the Cup drivers participation in lower series.Its not the Cup drivers that I'm impressed with as I know they are great drivers but when someone gets the chance race with a Cup driver and hangs right there with them thats impressive, to me anyways.

Just like this Ryan Smith kid that @StandOnIt posted about. He was racing right there with Larson and the fans loved it.
StandOnIt said:
I thought this was interesting:

Kyle Larson wins third sprint car race in as many nights at Grandview Speedway (PA)

While Larson held a comfortable lead on the restart, Ryan Smith began closing in – looking to end Larson’s five-race Sprint Car win streak.

Ryan Smith (94) uses an outside line to sneak by Kyle Larson (57). (Photo Doug Rothermel)

A full-house of race fans leaped to their feet when Smith muscled around Larson exiting turn 2, carrying that momentum into turn 3 before clipping the wall, sending The Warko Group No. 94 of Smith flipping wildly into the third turn. A dejected – but unscathed — Smith exited the car to a standing ovation from race fans.
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That type is so big I thought my eyes were going nuts. ^^^^
 
ToyYoda said:
So the moral of the story is that Kyle can run in the lower series' but Kyle can't. I think.
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Nah. It's running local short tracks do help them short tracks, so that's fine. Plus a bit more equal, plus I like to add in if Kyle fails post race there he loses the race.
 
Blaze88 said:
Nah. It's running local short tracks do help them short tracks, so that's fine. Plus a bit more equal, plus I like to add in if Kyle fails post race there he loses the race.
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I know, I was just joking about all the Kyle confusion.
 
Blaze88 said:
Don't hurt my brain again.
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The whole thing reminds me of that South Park episode with Kyle's cousin Kyle.
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Attempting to link what Kyle Larson does to what Kyle Busch does is asinine and if I have to explain why you wouldn't understand anyway. Me thinks someone is butthurt because someone else hasn't had a win in a year.
 
14 year Cup vet with 40 career wins and a championship running half the schedule in Nascar's "feeder" series (names are made here!) with the top team/equipment....

4 year Cup vet with 3 career wins running some dirt track races in a corn field....

Take off your Busch blinders and understand how silly of a comparison this is
 
For the record, I don't throw a fit when Cup guys invade Xfinity, but it's a much better show when they aren't around. That Iowa race was the best X race I've seen in several years.

I think the bigger problem is the disparity between the Cup teams in the X series, and the standalone X teams. The X teams get whooped week in and week out with little/no exposure.
 
ToyYoda said:
So the moral of the story is that Kyle can run in the lower series' but Kyle can't. I think.
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No. the point is that championship winning cup drivers racing during the Saturday matinee is way different than a cup driver racing sprint cars during the week. I don't understand why this is so black and white.
 
... or we could just enjoy what Larson does in the dirt during the week.

Jesus!
 
DUN24 said:
No. the point is that championship winning cup drivers racing during the Saturday matinee is way different than a cup driver racing sprint cars during the week. I don't understand why this is so black and white.
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I guess this joke backfired on me.
 
2 Sweet said:
14 year Cup vet with 40 career wins and a championship running half the schedule in Nascar's "feeder" series (names are made here!) with the top team/equipment....

4 year Cup vet with 3 career wins running some dirt track races in a corn field....

Take off your Busch blinders and understand how silly of a comparison this is
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Is it really that silly though? As Kyle Larson says he's the last true racer. These guys are race car drivers and thats what they enjoy doing. Now a young guy like Larson is going to be willing to travel all over and race while a veteran like Kyle Busch is more likely to race in a Xfinity race as he's already there for Cup. Same with Larson who has dominated the Xfinity series this year when he runs. Kyle races late models as well but not at the rate Larson races sprints.

Names are made in both the Xfinity series and on them dirt tracks. NASCAR is smart to market the series with that slogan. Without Cup drivers in them though, who are these kids going to make a name off of?
 
DSquad48 said:
Tom Brady playing high school ball is not the same as Tom Brady playing rugby.

That's what we're talking about here, right? :lol2:
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No.

We're talking about Tom Brady playing women's tennis because off-topic.
 
Simple Fan said:
Names are made in both the Xfinity series and on them dirt tracks. NASCAR is smart to market the series with that slogan. Without Cup drivers in them though, who are these kids going to make a name off of?
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Cup drivers have been racing in BGN/Xfinity for decades. It was never really an issue since they rarely dominated. The BGN/X teams/drivers still had a chance because the playing field was more even.

Nowadays, the Cup teams running in X already have a significant advantage over the regular X teams. When you add Cup drivers into the mix, the difference is even more noticeable. I think this has worsened the quality of the product, and Nascar seems to agree which is why they introduced the limit.
 
aunty dive said:
Who won the K & N race at Sonoma?
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But nobody is going crazy or using that to say Harvick is great for whipping up stats in a triple A league type of event.
And I think Harvick ran the race because he felt like he had room for improvement, and needed the seat time.

I think a few other cuppers could benefit from polishing up their skills in the K&N, Trucks, or Xfinity races. I am not bothered that much when they run the feeder races.

Just not to interested in pumping the inflated stats, against low hanging fruit or inferior competition.
 
Kiante said:
Been racing at Sonoma for 16 years and you still need a K&N run...
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lol

For real though, I have way less of an issue with that than I do him running at Kentucky and the other intermediates he's run in Xfinity this year. With only two Cup road races a year and only Watkins Glen having an Xfinity or Truck race to get seat time in I think it's a lot more tolerable. Especially since it's such a different skill set.
 
2 Sweet said:
Not sure what point you're trying to make. There were a few years where Mark Martin won half the races the entered, but click on any race you want and look at where the Cup guys finished. They weren't always at the top. The Cup guys got beat by BGN guys throughout the field on a regular basis.
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In the motor home lot or back at the motel, it's all about who won last week. Nobody cares who finished 9th and whether or not Mr. 9's car was a Cup quality entry ... other than Elliott Sadler whimpering because he didn't get interviewed and Keselowski did ... but of course there are exceptions to every rule.

My point is that cream rises. If car owners who don't have Cup teams looked at this the way a lot of fans do, the series would collapse. They don't. They race and aspire to improve. That's what this is all about.
 
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