Ford Performance

i think were lookin at an all ford final four come championship weekend in homestead miami.
toyota just dont have it this year imo... kylbusch got wins
 
Right now, I see Harvick, and three guys who are not as fast as him in the Final Four.
 
Let's deal with the reality of Ford. Fact....and Kez screamed about it. Last year, they had nothing. Same car. New rules. They have everything. Larry Mac spoke to this last night on NASCAR Radio in a way which should have been discussed all along, but NASCAR fans hate engineering and the science of racing I guess. The package (splitter) had big front downforce. Fords were loose. Last year, teams could play with the splitter a bit. This year. No. Flat splitter. As a result, Fords tighten up. Who likes a tight car? Kevin Harvick.

I will be fair. If NASCAR does nothing with Ford, they get killed, and we listen to winless in 2018 Brad. They did something. Fine, but let's not run blab about all of this gigantic Doug Yates horsepower like that is the deal. The motor is good, but it has always been good because Doug Yates has his hands on it, and he was taught by Robert Yates. These cars are good because NASCAR implemented a package that helped them. People, this car sucked last year. Sucked. Frankly, and to nobody's shock or amazement, I am impressed with Toyota's performance given that apparently much of what they had engineered had to be re-engineered. Despite Blabbing Brad's rants and insinuation, Toyota wasn't cheating. It's just that his outdated car didn't like the package. Wonder how much crapping of thy pants will go on if the Mustang goes through the teething problems the Camaro has experienced?
 
It's here where I wish NASCAR would turn a blind eye. You gave the Fords what they needed. Look the other way, when my guys bring a "creative" splitter to the track. Could have been a hell of a race--with parity, but no.
 
Looking at the scoreboard, and scratching my head. :D
 
Revman said:
It's here where I wish NASCAR would turn a blind eye. You gave the Fords what they needed. Look the other way, when my guys bring a "creative" splitter to the track. Could have been a hell of a race--with parity, but no.
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Don't beg Rev, Just because the preacher only has one decent driver this year, he made his bed, went for youth and cheap
 
Revman said:
Looking at the scoreboard, and scratching my head. :D
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Well whatever the 18 is doing out there this year is equal to what the 4 is doing out there this year. I will agree that this package is really help the Fords as a whole but the 18 is at no disadvantage.
 
Revman said:
Let's deal with the reality of Ford. Fact....and Kez screamed about it. Last year, they had nothing. Same car. New rules. They have everything. Larry Mac spoke to this last night on NASCAR Radio in a way which should have been discussed all along, but NASCAR fans hate engineering and the science of racing I guess. The package (splitter) had big front downforce. Fords were loose. Last year, teams could play with the splitter a bit. This year. No. Flat splitter. As a result, Fords tighten up. Who likes a tight car? Kevin Harvick.

I will be fair. If NASCAR does nothing with Ford, they get killed, and we listen to winless in 2018 Brad. They did something. Fine, but let's not run blab about all of this gigantic Doug Yates horsepower like that is the deal. The motor is good, but it has always been good because Doug Yates has his hands on it, and he was taught by Robert Yates. These cars are good because NASCAR implemented a package that helped them. People, this car sucked last year. Sucked. Frankly, and to nobody's shock or amazement, I am impressed with Toyota's performance given that apparently much of what they had engineered had to be re-engineered. Despite Blabbing Brad's rants and insinuation, Toyota wasn't cheating. It's just that his outdated car didn't like the package. Wonder how much crapping of thy pants will go on if the Mustang goes through the teething problems the Camaro has experienced?
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Ford doesnt have an advantage. Stewart Haas has it because they found it.
 
StandOnIt said:
Don't beg Rev, Just because the preacher only has one decent driver this year, he made his bed, went for youth and cheap
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Eh, I have always been on this side of things for better or worse. I know you know how to collect my posts. Take a look. As for the cheap young drivers....you get no argument from me. That team is suffering in a relative sense, and there is no going back. Keep in mind that Carl wasn't cut, he wanted to farm. As for Matt...I wish we had him back, no question. Denny? Don't start me....
Spotter22 said:
Ford doesnt have an advantage. Stewart Haas has it because they found it.
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Seriously? Come on man. SHR would have NEVER "found" it without that splitter, and you and I both know that. There is nothing wrong with it, but please save me the "effort equals results" stuff. NASCAR put in the "effort" and now they get the "results."
Fordracing7 said:
Well whatever the 18 is doing out there this year is equal to what the 4 is doing out there this year. I will agree that this package is really help the Fords as a whole but the 18 is at no disadvantage.
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I do not agree. Kevin is about a tenth better than Kyle, and that isn't in the talent. NoWay. Kyle Busch flatters TRD and Toyota right now. Without him, you have Penske in JGR.
 
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Revman said:
Eh, I have always been on this side of things for better or worse. I know you know how to collect my posts. Take a look. As for the cheap young drivers....you get no argument from me. That team is suffering in a relative sense, and there is no going back. Keep in mind that Carl wasn't cut, he wanted to farm. As for Matt...I wish we had him back, no question. Denny? Don't start me....
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Whining while KDB is in first place? really. Face the reality, the preacher only has one decent driver. SHR has 4, Penske has 3 and all of them can win on any given day. It ain't about the splitter they all have the same one..oh wait
 
StandOnIt said:
Whining while KDB is in first place? really. Face the reality, the preacher only has one decent driver. SHR has 4, Penske has 3 and all of them can win on any given day. It ain't about the splitter they all have the same one..oh wait
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Yeah, and one manufacturer who was **** last year is all of a sudden dominate. Come on man. Did you steal my rose colored glasses?
 
Revman said:
Yeah, and one manufacturer who was sh!t last year is all of a sudden dominate. Come on man. Did you steal my rose colored glasses?
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I don't guess you noticed last year the last 5 races SHR/Harvick had 5 top fives with a win. The hand writing was on the wall then.
 
StandOnIt said:
I don't guess you noticed last year the last 5 races SHR/Harvick had 5 top fives with a win. The hand writing was on the wall then.
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.......and did he lay 2-3 tenths on the field routinely in those last five races? You are just messing around with me, right? I mean, you are posting like me. I expect more from you.
 
Revman said:
.......and did he lay 2-3 tenths on the field routinely in those last five races? You are just messing around with me, right? I mean, you are posting like me. I expect more from you.
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You say the Fords sucked last year, I say B.S. Here are the figures

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Kiante said:
Second half of the year they started to click.
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yep, after the reset with the chase anybody should be able to look at the figures and see how close they were..yeah they weren't as good but you sure can't say they sucked IMO. kinda disrespectful
 
Kiante said:
Second half of the year they started to click.
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Wow. Ford people are certainly defensive. Why is it so hard to admit that NASCAR helped them? I don't have a problem with it. It's just reality. Balance of Performance NASCAR Cup style. I prefer this over spec. Honestly, are you making the case that Ford was anywhere near the zip code they are in now? Please say, "No."
 
now you look at the top 4 this year..who's missing, who's laying down..looks like Truex has and Penske has filled the spot

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Looks like the Yoter fans should be bad mouthing Truex for laying down, instead of crying about a splitter? If he was running like he was last year we wouldn't be hearing about all the whining IMO
 
StandOnIt said:
yep, after the reset with the chase anybody should be able to look at the figures and see how close they were..yeah they weren't as good but you sure can't say they sucked IMO. kinda disrespectful
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Toyota won 8 of 10 races. Eight. Of. Ten. So, if you are going to subjectively suggest that Ford was close, certainly you can put your little table away and understand how far ahead they are now, right?
StandOnIt said:
Looks like the Yoter fans should be bad mouthing Truex for laying down.
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He liked the old splitter, but Ford didn't.
 
StandOnIt said:
got to blame it on something I guess, wonder what KDB's excuse is for winning so much.
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Geez, this is easy...you are losing your touch....KB's excuse.....come on.....PURE TALENT. Damn, that was just too easy.
 
Truex's bunch won the cup and they are laying down, You look at Harcick or KDB since 2014 and they are in the top 3 every year with the exception of one year where Harvick had an 8th and KDB had a 10th. Ain't no splitter gate or Fords sucking. Both have won a championship during that time.
 
StandOnIt said:
Both have won a championship during that time.
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Ho-ly ****! You just recognized Kyle Busch's Championship! Now, I am certain that your account has been hacked. @TexasRaceLady please investigate this immediately. I never asked for this!!!!!!!!:D
 
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