2017 NASCAR Season - Television Ratings Thread

The column that shows Nascar's fans over 50 sticks out like a sore thumb and everyone involved seems paralyzed to do anything about it.
 
NJJammer said:
And the stands at Dover were 5/8 to 3/4 full despite the "Chamber of Commerce weather" and Dover's winter "right-sizing" removal of the Turn 4 grandstands.
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The Swiss cheese I put on my burger had less holes in it then the stands at Dover and the track is in obvious need of some serious enhancing to the tune of 40K seats.
 
NASCAR now enjoys the most exciting “racing” ever with the drivers and crews putting forth maximum physical efforts as well as Einstein-like strategies to score valuable points in each segment. All of this leads to the most exciting, game seven moments in a straight up, easily understood method of crowning a deserving champion.

Those TV ‘n live attendance numbers will be rocketing up soon, maybe starting with the always magnificent Pocono “Tricky Triangle” this weekend.

Places like Dover will be putting the stands back where they were before we know it.
 
R Clarence said:
NASCAR now enjoys the most exciting “racing” ever with the drivers and crews putting forth maximum physical efforts as well as Einstein-like strategies to score valuable points in each segment. All of this leads to the most exciting, game seven moments in a straight up, easily understood method of crowning a deserving champion.

Those TV ‘n live attendance numbers will be rocketing up soon, maybe starting with the always magnificent Pocono “Tricky Triangle” this weekend.

Places like Dover will be putting the stands back where they were before we know it.
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Are you saying that tracks like Dover will be un-enhancing at some point? Who'd a thunk it? The next thing you know MIS will be having a huge tarp fire in the infield as they un-enhance things.
 
R Clarence said:
NASCAR now enjoys the most exciting “racing” ever with the drivers and crews putting forth maximum physical efforts as well as Einstein-like strategies to score valuable points in each segment. All of this leads to the most exciting, game seven moments in a straight up, easily understood method of crowning a deserving champion.

Those TV ‘n live attendance numbers will be rocketing up soon, maybe starting with the always magnificent Pocono “Tricky Triangle” this weekend.

Places like Dover will be putting the stands back where they were before we know it.
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R Clarence said:
NASCAR now enjoys the most exciting “racing” ever with the drivers and crews putting forth maximum physical efforts as well as Einstein-like strategies to score valuable points in each segment. All of this leads to the most exciting, game seven moments in a straight up, easily understood method of crowning a deserving champion.

Those TV ‘n live attendance numbers will be rocketing up soon, maybe starting with the always magnificent Pocono “Tricky Triangle” this weekend.

Places like Dover will be putting the stands back where they were before we know it.
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Dover's future "right-sizing" plan looks back to the future to provide an "authentic fan experience" for the remaining fans left in 2025:

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Packed house virtually guaranteed.
 
NJJammer said:
Dover's future "right-sizing" plan looks back to the future to provide an "authentic fan experience" for the remaining fans left in 2025:

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Packed house virtually guaranteed.
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It is hard to believe Daytona ripped out about 60K in seats and Talladega about 70K and all those seats used to be occupied. If trends continue there will be facilities where 35,000 seats are plenty and as the Nascar fan ages out even less will be required.
 
Here is a short time graph frame of 17 years for both of the U.S.'s most popular series major races without the drama queen dramatics.


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StandOnIt said:
Here is a short time graph frame of 17 years for both of the U.S.'s most popular series major races without the drama queen dramatics.


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This graph was posted a while back and shows how both the 500 and 600 suck in terms of viewership and interest over years past but the 500 has sucked a lot less than the 600 on the past couple of years. It is hard to believe that 10.2 million watched the 600 in 2005 and only 5.7 million did in 2016 and only 4.6 million this year. There is no defending the indefensible and no denying that Nascar has a geriatric fan base that will age out soon if young people don't become interested. Thems they facts Jack.
 
It's not hard to believe, anybody that remotely follows autosports in general knows of this. ALL motorsports, not just Nascar are under attack despite the constant drama queening about Nascar specifically. but I guess we should commend the ones who constantly parrot the same drivel every week even though it is half wittingly correct.
 
Skoalbandit33 said:
Are you saying that tracks like Dover will be un-enhancing at some point? Who'd a thunk it? The next thing you know MIS will be having a huge tarp fire in the infield as they un-enhance things.
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I went to Dover in 2008 and while the track (and racing) are great, I thought the place was a dump. The vending was like carnival-style portable vending carts under the metal-bleacher seating. The grandstands felt over-sold (this was 2008 - attendance was fairly strong) and all around pretty Busch-league. I remember thinking that the place felt two decades behind in fan amenities and overall fan comfort. I think they completed a capital improvement program a couple of years ago - not sure if its' any better.
 
superchuck500 said:
I went to Dover in 2008 and while the track (and racing) are great, I thought the place was a dump. The vending was like carnival-style portable vending carts under the metal-bleacher seating. The grandstands felt over-sold (this was 2008 - attendance was fairly strong) and all around pretty Busch-league. I remember thinking that the place felt two decades behind in fan amenities and overall fan comfort. I think they completed a capital improvement program a couple of years ago - not sure if its' any better.
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The seating is more comfortable since they give you more space now post-renovation. Where I sit, it doesn't really matter (between turns 1 & 2) because I usually have half a row to myself. Food options are pretty good but I pack my own anyway. What I love is the view from my seat and the racing action. I do overpay and park in the Home Depot lot for $30 (ripoff) so I can exit the area quickly and be on my way back to NJ.
 
StandOnIt said:
It's not hard to believe, anybody that remotely follows autosports in general knows of this. ALL motorsports, not just Nascar are under attack despite the constant drama queening about Nascar specifically. but I guess we should commend the ones who constantly parrot the same drivel every week even though it is half wittingly correct.
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NJJammer said:
The seating is more comfortable since they give you more space now post-renovation. Where I sit, it doesn't really matter (between turns 1 & 2) because I usually have half a row to myself. Food options are pretty good but I pack my own anyway. What I love is the view from my seat and the racing action. I do overpay and park in the Home Depot lot for $30 (ripoff) so I can exit the area quickly and be on my way back to NJ.
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Are you allowed to pump your own gas in Jersey yet?
 
StandOnIt said:
It's not hard to believe, anybody that remotely follows autosports in general knows of this. ALL motorsports, not just Nascar are under attack despite the constant drama queening about Nascar specifically. but I guess we should commend the ones who constantly parrot the same drivel every week even though it is half wittingly correct.
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If being all rainbows and unicorns is how you like then the TV thread is one I would highly recommend you ignore as it paints a bleak picture. The only drama involved is the dramatic height Nascar has plummeted and the unabated erosion of its fan base. I am sorry if this offends you but it is the truth.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
I never know the gas pump etiquette when in New Jersey. Are those gas jockeys expecting some sort of tip for filling the tank up?
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Can't tell if this is serious or not, but Oregon laws are similar and nobody here tips the attendants. People from out of state sometimes will due to it being so new to them. I still frequently see people hop out of their car and start the process of filling up before an emoloyee runs up to inform them it's illegal.

The funny thing is I would feel compelled to tip if I was in another state and the service were offered as an option, as opposed to being required. My five year old son loves when we go to Washington (or anywhere else), because then he gets to pump the gas for us. It's a real treat.
 
StandOnIt said:
Here is a short time graph frame of 17 years for both of the U.S.'s most popular series major races without the drama queen dramatics.


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I think a better comparison of numbers between the two series would have been the Indy 500 & the Daytona 500. Those are the races that I'd consider to be the major races of the two respective series. I can only guess that the avg Joe on the street wouldn't have a clue what the Coke-Cola 600 is but they sure as heck have heard of the Indy 500.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
I never know the gas pump etiquette when in New Jersey. Are those gas jockeys expecting some sort of tip for filling the tank up?
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I don't. That's their job. If they "wash" my windshield with that filthy water, I may toss a George their way, depending how filthy the water is.
 
gnomesayin said:
Can't tell if this is serious or not, but Oregon laws are similar and nobody here tips the attendants. People from out of state sometimes will due to it being so new to them. I still frequently see people hop out of their car and start the process of filling up before an emoloyee runs up to inform them it's illegal.

The funny thing is I would feel compelled to tip if I was in another state and the service were offered as an option, as opposed to being required. My five year old son loves when we go to Washington (or anywhere else), because then he gets to pump the gas for us. It's a real treat.
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I forgot about Oregon as the last time I was in Portland (Lake Oswego) I ran into the same thing.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
I think a better comparison of numbers between the two series would have been the Indy 500 & the Daytona 500. Those are the races that I'd consider to be the major races of the two respective series. I can only guess that the avg Joe on the street wouldn't have a clue what the Coke-Cola 600 is but they sure as heck have heard of the Indy 500.
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Comparing the races both series are best known for makes sense.
 
gnomesayin said:
Can't tell if this is serious or not, but Oregon laws are similar and nobody here tips the attendants. People from out of state sometimes will due to it being so new to them. I still frequently see people hop out of their car and start the process of filling up before an emoloyee runs up to inform them it's illegal.

The funny thing is I would feel compelled to tip if I was in another state and the service were offered as an option, as opposed to being required. My five year old son loves when we go to Washington (or anywhere else), because then he gets to pump the gas for us. It's a real treat.
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I was serious. I only go there occasionally and feel ridiculous sitting in my car while someone else fills er up. While that was once commonplace here in PA, I now only know of one place that pumps gas for anyone this day in age.

Anyone know the reason behind NJ being behind the times when it comes to self service? Just curious.
 
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dpkimmel2001 said:
I'm too lazy to look back today but I know I posted the numbers comparing the two just after the Indy 500 broadcast. The Daytona 500 kicked a$$ between the two.
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I remember and Daytona dwarfed the 500.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
I never know the gas pump etiquette when in New Jersey. Are those gas jockeys expecting some sort of tip for filling the tank up?
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I don't know about the gas jockeys, but we have 2 race tracks on our schedule that we race at every year which are Reading PA and Englishtown NJ which is where I'm at right now, and they have potty attendants that stand outside of the porta potties and the main restrooms waiting for a tip.:flushed::)
 
Nitro Dude said:
I don't know about the gas jockeys, but we have 2 race tracks on our schedule that we race at every year which are Reading PA and Englishtown NJ which is where I'm at right now, and they have potty attendants that stand outside of the porta potties and the main restrooms waiting for a tip.
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Never been in that situation. Porta potties? Really?
 
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