2017 R-F Race Ratings

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  1. Johali

    Johali Team Owner Contributor

    No more than he drops the 2s because the poster got drunk and fell asleep.
     
  2. Skoalbandit33

    Skoalbandit33 Team Owner

    Wow! Two 10's!!

    I think I use a tougher rating scale them some as if I gave out a 10 it would have to be a near perfect race so if I give a race anything over 7 it has been a good event. Even 5's and 6's are not terrible for me but fall in more on the average side. Some folks seem to have a scale that operates between 8.5 and 10 which I don't understand but I honor it and accept it.
     
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  3. Skoalbandit33

    Skoalbandit33 Team Owner

    I think KY would have had higher ratings if most of the forum had become drunk and fell asleep as it was a painful race for many.
     
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  4. ToyYoda

    ToyYoda Everything's Great!

    I don't, but I drop the highest and lowest because some posters rate every race a 1 or a 10 regardless of how good or bad the race was, dropping the highest and lowest counters that a bit.

    I also throw out overly convoluted ratings (i.e. "I give the first 60 laps a 10, the next 40 laps a 2, the last 60 laps a 5, and -1 for debris cautions") and partial race ratings (i.e. "I only saw the last 10 laps, but I give it an 8"). Ratings for non-race related stuff like the broadcast or the announcers are also not factored in.
     
  5. Johali

    Johali Team Owner Contributor

    That kinda crap was one reason that I was relieved to see you start doing it. :cheers:
     
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  6. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    I usually start with a baseline 7, then add or subtract from there, excluding plate races.
     
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  7. ToyYoda

    ToyYoda Everything's Great!

    Ironically, the race that was run on 7/16 got a 7.16.

    1. Bristol (4/24): 9.27
    2. Martinsville (4/2): 8.94
    3. Richmond (4/30): 8.66
    4. Kansas (5/13): 8.31
    5. Sonoma (6/25): 8.09
    6. Las Vegas (3/12): 8.08
    7. Phoenix (3/19): 8.03
    8. Pocono (6/11): 7.85
    9. Talladega (5/7): 7.62
    10. Dover (6/4): 7.61
    11. Fontana (3/26): 7.59
    12. Daytona (7/1): 7.57
    13. Daytona (2/26): 7.46
    14. New Hampshire (7/16): 7.16
    15. Michigan (6/18): 6.93
    16. Texas (4/9): 6.80
    17. Atlanta (3/5): 6.55
    18. Charlotte (5/28): 6.00
    19. Kentucky (7/8): 4.58
     
  8. ToyYoda

    ToyYoda Everything's Great!

    Much better than I ever imagined Indianapolis would do...

    1. Bristol (4/24): 9.27
    2. Martinsville (4/2): 8.94
    3. Richmond (4/30): 8.66
    4. Kansas (5/13): 8.31
    5. Sonoma (6/25): 8.09
    6. Las Vegas (3/12): 8.08
    7. Phoenix (3/19): 8.03
    8. Pocono (6/11): 7.85
    9. Talladega (5/7): 7.62
    10. Dover (6/4): 7.61
    11. Fontana (3/26): 7.59
    12. Daytona (7/1): 7.57
    13. Daytona (2/26): 7.46
    14. New Hampshire (7/16): 7.16
    15. Indianapolis (7/23): 7.00
    16. Michigan (6/18): 6.93
    17. Texas (4/9): 6.80
    18. Atlanta (3/5): 6.55
    19. Charlotte (5/28): 6.00
    20. Kentucky (7/8): 4.58
     
  9. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    That's a big step up from last year.
     
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  10. Larsonfan1995

    Larsonfan1995 Crew Chief

    Well, could possibly have a challenger for worst race of the year this week, especially because I'm gonna be there. I seem to go to all the snoozers. But other than that, I think Kentucky has worst race wrapped up if Pocono doesn't beat it.
     
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  11. Skoalbandit33

    Skoalbandit33 Team Owner

    Lots of really good ratings for the entire year, IMO
     
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  12. ToyYoda

    ToyYoda Everything's Great!

    Yeah, it was a 3.68 last year I believe.
     
  13. ToyYoda

    ToyYoda Everything's Great!

    1. Bristol (4/24): 9.27
    2. Martinsville (4/2): 8.94
    3. Richmond (4/30): 8.66
    4. Kansas (5/13): 8.31
    5. Sonoma (6/25): 8.09
    6. Las Vegas (3/12): 8.08
    7. Phoenix (3/19): 8.03
    8. Pocono (6/11): 7.85
    9. Talladega (5/7): 7.62
    10. Dover (6/4): 7.61
    11. Fontana (3/26): 7.59
    12. Daytona (7/1): 7.57
    13. Daytona (2/26): 7.46
    14. New Hampshire (7/16): 7.16
    15. Indianapolis (7/23): 7.00
    16. Michigan (6/18): 6.93
    17. Texas (4/9): 6.80
    18. Atlanta (3/5): 6.55
    19. Charlotte (5/28): 6.00
    20. Pocono (7/30): 5.64
    21. Kentucky (7/8): 4.58
     
  14. Skoalbandit33

    Skoalbandit33 Team Owner

    A precipitous drop over the first Pocono race. It is hard to tell if the lower rating for the second race was due to perceived inferior racing or some of the fans fans were constipated or hungover thus not feeling so good thus resulting in a lower rating.
     
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  15. ToyYoda

    ToyYoda Everything's Great!

    I was happy to see Kyle win, but it definitely wasn't as good as the June race. I think Blaney winning that one probably helped its rating too.
     
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  16. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    I find it interesting that these two poles are so close together
    http://jeffgluck.com/was-it-a-good-race-poll-results/
     
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  17. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    What the heck happened between first and second Pocono to produce such a swing in opinion? Was it just everyone bitching about Kyle?
     
  18. Towmater

    Towmater Car Chief

    Time of year plays a part. July means people are outside, on vacation, and have other things to do before kids/grand kids head back to school.
     
  19. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    Better finish that's for sure, Blaney and Kyle Damn Busch battled for the win numerous laps at the end, compared to a lopsided runaway win this time. To me it was more luck than skill on that track to have a close finish. Pocono isn't known for close finishes IMO. Remember last year Buescher won Poke 2 in the fog.:p
     
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  20. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    It sounds like you're talking about TV ratings. I'm talking about the '1 to 10' rating we give races here. In theory the range of numbers here would be on similar bell-shaped curves regardless of how many people participated (given a statistically significant sampling). I don't think the factors you cited would affect the opinions of those RF members who watched the race.
     
  21. LewTheShoe

    LewTheShoe Team Owner

    To me, the big difference was the gap (more like chasm) between the speed of the six Toyotas versus everyone else. Pocono 1 was much more of a level field. That lack of competitiveness makes a poor race. (I can enjoy a beatdown when it is my preferred team that is dominating... but it still makes for a poor race IMO.)
     
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  22. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    Ouch. That's pretty harsh. I didn't think the Pocono races were that different besides who won and how long the run to the finish was. If NASCAR had a 10-to-go caution in every race I bet this place, and others, would actually eat it up.
     
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  23. ToyYoda

    ToyYoda Everything's Great!

    1. Bristol (4/24): 9.27
    2. Martinsville (4/2): 8.94
    3. Richmond (4/30): 8.66
    4. Kansas (5/13): 8.31
    5. Sonoma (6/25): 8.09
    6. Las Vegas (3/12): 8.08
    7. Phoenix (3/19): 8.03
    8. Pocono (6/11): 7.85
    9. Talladega (5/7): 7.62
    10. Dover (6/4): 7.61
    11. Fontana (3/26): 7.59
    12. Daytona (7/1): 7.57
    13. Daytona (2/26): 7.46
    14. New Hampshire (7/16): 7.16
    15. Indianapolis (7/23): 7.00
    16. Watkins Glen (8/6): 6.95
    17. Michigan (6/18): 6.93
    18. Texas (4/9): 6.80
    19. Atlanta (3/5): 6.55
    20. Charlotte (5/28): 6.00
    21. Pocono (7/30): 5.64
    22. Kentucky (7/8): 4.58
     
  24. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    pretty decent rating for a fuel mileage race, I think the announcing helped it.
     
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  25. LewTheShoe

    LewTheShoe Team Owner

    Indy scores higher than The Glen. Who'd a thunk it? :p
     
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  26. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

  27. ToyYoda

    ToyYoda Everything's Great!

    1. Bristol (4/24): 9.27
    2. Martinsville (4/2): 8.94
    3. Richmond (4/30): 8.66
    4. Kansas (5/13): 8.31
    5. Sonoma (6/25): 8.09
    6. Las Vegas (3/12): 8.08
    7. Phoenix (3/19): 8.03
    8. Pocono (6/11): 7.85
    9. Talladega (5/7): 7.62
    10. Dover (6/4): 7.61
    11. Fontana (3/26): 7.59
    12. Daytona (7/1): 7.57
    13. Daytona (2/26): 7.46
    14. New Hampshire (7/16): 7.16
    15. Indianapolis (7/23): 7.00
    16. Michigan (8/13): 6.97
    17. Watkins Glen (8/6): 6.95
    18. Michigan (6/18): 6.93
    19. Texas (4/9): 6.80
    20. Atlanta (3/5): 6.55
    21. Charlotte (5/28): 6.00
    22. Pocono (7/30): 5.64
    23. Kentucky (7/8): 4.58
     
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  28. ToyYoda

    ToyYoda Everything's Great!

    1. Bristol (4/24): 9.27
    2. Martinsville (4/2): 8.94
    3. Richmond (4/30): 8.66
    4. Kansas (5/13): 8.31
    5. Sonoma (6/25): 8.09
    6. Las Vegas (3/12): 8.08
    7. Phoenix (3/19): 8.03
    8. Bristol (8/19): 7.98
    9. Pocono (6/11): 7.85
    10. Talladega (5/7): 7.62
    11. Dover (6/4): 7.61
    12. Fontana (3/26): 7.59
    13. Daytona (7/1): 7.57
    14. Daytona (2/26): 7.46
    15. New Hampshire (7/16): 7.16
    16. Indianapolis (7/23): 7.00
    17. Michigan (8/13): 6.97
    18. Watkins Glen (8/6): 6.95
    19. Michigan (6/18): 6.93
    20. Texas (4/9): 6.80
    21. Atlanta (3/5): 6.55
    22. Charlotte (5/28): 6.00
    23. Pocono (7/30): 5.64
    24. Kentucky (7/8): 4.58
     
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  29. Larsonfan1995

    Larsonfan1995 Crew Chief

    2 mile and a halfs in the top 11, but let's keep giving them more dates
     
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  30. JBone88

    JBone88 JR Nation's last ride

    What's funny is the two cookie cutters ranked up there, weren't very good races IMO. Kansas was a snoozer. Has been ever since they started racing there. Vegas only pulled that rating cause of a bloody Kyle Busch.
     
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  31. ToyYoda

    ToyYoda Everything's Great!

    1. Bristol (4/24): 9.27
    2. Martinsville (4/2): 8.94
    3. Richmond (4/30): 8.66
    4. Kansas (5/13): 8.31
    5. Sonoma (6/25): 8.09
    6. Las Vegas (3/12): 8.08
    7. Phoenix (3/19): 8.03
    8. Bristol (8/19): 7.98
    9. Pocono (6/11): 7.85
    10. Talladega (5/7): 7.62
    11. Dover (6/4): 7.61
    12. Fontana (3/26): 7.59
    13. Daytona (7/1): 7.57
    14. Daytona (2/26): 7.46
    15. Darlington (9/3): 7.23
    16. New Hampshire (7/16): 7.16
    17. Indianapolis (7/23): 7.00
    18. Michigan (8/13): 6.97
    19. Watkins Glen (8/6): 6.95
    20. Michigan (6/18): 6.93
    21. Texas (4/9): 6.80
    22. Atlanta (3/5): 6.55
    23. Charlotte (5/28): 6.00
    24. Pocono (7/30): 5.64
    25. Kentucky (7/8): 4.58
     
  32. Skoalbandit33

    Skoalbandit33 Team Owner

    On one hand I am surprised that Darlington scored as low as it did but on the other I am surprised it scored as high as it did if that makes any sense at all. I would have given the race about a 3-4 had I rated it but I thought I would pass because I didn't think I could be objective. If I went off things other than race quality I would have given it a 10 just due to Ned.
     
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  33. ToyYoda

    ToyYoda Everything's Great!

    The ratings were all over the place for this race.
     
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  34. Skoalbandit33

    Skoalbandit33 Team Owner

    I seem to remember a lot of sub 5 ratings but there were 8's and 9's too. Different strokes!
     
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  35. Larsonfan1995

    Larsonfan1995 Crew Chief

    If Kyle Busch had won, they would've been mostly sub 5
     
  36. ToyYoda

    ToyYoda Everything's Great!

    Denny Hamlin isn't exactly Mr. Popular in these parts either, but I think most people at least respect what he did coming back from that pitting incident.
     
  37. ToyYoda

    ToyYoda Everything's Great!

    1. Bristol (4/24): 9.27
    2. Martinsville (4/2): 8.94
    3. Richmond (4/30): 8.66
    4. Kansas (5/13): 8.31
    5. Sonoma (6/25): 8.09
    6. Las Vegas (3/12): 8.08
    7. Phoenix (3/19): 8.03
    8. Bristol (8/19): 7.98
    9. Pocono (6/11): 7.85
    10. Talladega (5/7): 7.62
    11. Dover (6/4): 7.61
    12. Fontana (3/26): 7.59
    13. Daytona (7/1): 7.57
    14. Daytona (2/26): 7.46
    15. Darlington (9/3): 7.23
    16. New Hampshire (7/16): 7.16
    17. Indianapolis (7/23): 7.00
    18. Michigan (8/13): 6.97
    19. Watkins Glen (8/6): 6.95
    20. Michigan (6/18): 6.93
    21. Texas (4/9): 6.80
    22. Richmond (9/9): 6.61
    23. Atlanta (3/5): 6.55
    24. Charlotte (5/28): 6.00
    25. Pocono (7/30): 5.64
    26. Kentucky (7/8): 4.58
     
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  38. Skoalbandit33

    Skoalbandit33 Team Owner

    It is interesting to note that out of the top 13 highest rated races only one occurred after June (Daytona July 1) and that in the bottom 13 races 8 took place after July. IDK if there is a story to be told with those numbers or not but it seems like Nascar comes in like a lion and gradually tails off before going out like a lamb. Thanks for compiling this list.
     
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  39. ToyYoda

    ToyYoda Everything's Great!

    Tough crowd this week...

    1. Bristol (4/24): 9.27
    2. Martinsville (4/2): 8.94
    3. Richmond (4/30): 8.66
    4. Kansas (5/13): 8.31
    5. Sonoma (6/25): 8.09
    6. Las Vegas (3/12): 8.08
    7. Phoenix (3/19): 8.03
    8. Bristol (8/19): 7.98
    9. Pocono (6/11): 7.85
    10. Talladega (5/7): 7.62
    11. Dover (6/4): 7.61
    12. Fontana (3/26): 7.59
    13. Daytona (7/1): 7.57
    14. Daytona (2/26): 7.46
    15. Darlington (9/3): 7.23
    16. New Hampshire (7/16): 7.16
    17. Indianapolis (7/23): 7.00
    18. Michigan (8/13): 6.97
    19. Watkins Glen (8/6): 6.95
    20. Michigan (6/18): 6.93
    21. Texas (4/9): 6.80
    22. Richmond (9/9): 6.61
    23. Atlanta (3/5): 6.55
    24. Charlotte (5/28): 6.00
    25. Pocono (7/30): 5.64
    26. Chicagoland (9/17): 4.96
    27. Kentucky (7/8): 4.58
     
  40. dpkimmel2001

    dpkimmel2001 Team Owner

    Ouch! The season's winding down and so are the Rate The Race Ratings. So much for the anticipation and then the excitement of the Chase, err Playoffs. Well, so far anyway..... How much longer till Martinsville again?
     
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