2018 - Daytona 500 - Pre Race Thread

Discussion in 'NASCAR chat' started by dpkimmel2001, Jan 23, 2018.

  1. Mispeedway15

    Mispeedway15 Team Owner

    I actually disagree lol. I’d be pretty disappointed if they ever went to more than 3 short tracks for reasons similar to F1. These leagues are the pinnacle of motorsport and part of that is the absolute crazy speeds that are ran. While some of these tracks could have been better shaped (Darlington is 1.5er yet its beloved) too many short tracks would water it down. I remember Bubba Wallace after the truck race victory at MIS saying he forgot how slow the trucks were. While they do put on a hell of a show, the real separation occurs when they’re turning 203-204 at a 2 mile facility
     
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  2. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    HERESY!

    Darlington measures 1.366 miles. More importantly, unlike the 1.5ers, it isn't tri- or quad-oval. It's not so much her length that makes The Lady unique as it is her shape. ;)
     
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  3. dpkimmel2001

    dpkimmel2001 Team Owner

  4. 4tires17gals

    4tires17gals Team Owner

    Hopes a new winner like Derrick cope
     
  5. Yeah cause following the nonsense in the two month off season is when they make all their money. Brilliant. You're so smart!
     
  6. RayinTX

    RayinTX Crew Chief

    What?
     
  7. jws926

    jws926 Nissan Is Love, Nissan Is Life

    Fast speeds does not always = into good racing.
     
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  8. AndyMarquisLive

    AndyMarquisLive Short Track Fanatic

    The NFL is the pinnacle of football, but they still play on a 120 yard field in the NFL, same as they do in Varsity.
     
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  9. dpkimmel2001

    dpkimmel2001 Team Owner

    I think I'm just fond of tradition when it comes to my NASCAR. I missed the Clash/Shootout being broadcast on Saturday night rather than Sunday afternoon. Same with the upcoming Duel/Twin races on Thursday. All those February Thursday's that I called in sick for over the years. Yeah, I get the reason's for the move(s) although I don't think it really accomplished anything, especially with the dwindling audience. Doesn't really matter though, I'll still be there to watch regardless of when they're on. There's still something to say for tradition though.
     
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  10. Mispeedway15

    Mispeedway15 Team Owner

    You know ball and stick sports are different

    It’s not always about the great racing because this is the highest level in the world. Look I’m not saying I don’t love short tracks, but and some of the racing on 1.5ers can be absolutely terrible. But the thing that separates NASCAR from other forms of stock car racing is its flat out speeds
     
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  11. jws926

    jws926 Nissan Is Love, Nissan Is Life

    This make's zero sense:eek:, you would rather have terrible racing at hight speeds, than better racing at slower speeds, yeah no, I cant even , nope, notta, wow.
     
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  12. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    If racing in a fishbowl was so popular it would be rapidly overtaking other forms of racing. It isn't. Tracks are closing right and left.
     
  13. Thegeneral23

    Thegeneral23 Team Owner

    Can someone explain to me the duels please.. so u do qualifying but it don’t matter? Because the duels is what position u in the 500? I’m so confused lol..
     
  14. AndyMarquisLive

    AndyMarquisLive Short Track Fanatic

    Qualifying sets the front row and the Duels set the rest of the field.

    Used to be that you raced your way in through the Duels but that element was rendered useless by the charters.

    Everyone will just ride around single file all race trying not to wreck. There's no reason to risk wrecking a racecar to race hard on Thursday.
     
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  15. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

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  16. Thegeneral23

    Thegeneral23 Team Owner

  17. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    Sunday's Q locks in only the front two positions for the Daytona 500. For everyone, it determines where they will in Thursday's Duels; even-numbered qualifiers in one race, odd numbers in the other. Finishing position in the Duels determines where everyone else starts the D500. It doesn't matter where the fastest two qualifiers finish in the Duels because they're locked into the front row regardless (assuming they don't have to go to backup cars).

    Until recently, there were more cars attempting to get into the D500 than we have today. Having 50 cars or more was common. If you didn't finish well in your Duel, you wouldn't make the main race. Over the past few years, fewer cars have been showing up so there's been less pressure on finishing the Duels. This year, with only 40 cars entered, everyone will make it to the D500. There's no chance the Duels will eliminate anyone.

    While the Duels will determine where each driver starts the D500, my personal opinion is that where a car qualifies at a plate race is far less significant that non-plate tracks. As Andy said, there's no motivation to do well beyond the normal driver's desire to win. In this particular case, that's outweighed by the need to keep the car in one piece for Sunday.
     
  18. Formerjackman

    Formerjackman Team Owner

    If you want tradition, move the Clash back to a 12:05 start and make it 20 laps again. I believe Terry Labonte holds the all time clash record, winning it in 15 minutes, 19 seconds in 1985. By 12:30, CBS was covering college basketball.
     
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  19. mack

    mack Team Owner


    The pole qualifying sets the front row. In the old days the duels set positions 3-30, the rest of the field fell back on their qualifying speed. There was a past Champions provisional that NASCAR implemented somewhere around 1986 or so. They started that to make sure A big name driver wouldn't miss a race. I think this is all fairly close. Feel free to make corrections.
     
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  20. AndyMarquisLive

    AndyMarquisLive Short Track Fanatic

    Did this because I hate Fox's sidebar so much.

    nascar_gfc_2 copy.jpg

    This is basically the ticker TNN used 20 years ago.
     
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  21. AndyMarquisLive

    AndyMarquisLive Short Track Fanatic

    The old format was complicated to figure out but it made the Duels exciting.
     
  22. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    The sidebar with a bit of tweaking will be much better than what they had. Viewers can see the whole field's position at a glance. The one last year was a joke. They were showing on camera the leaders and the leaderboard up top had the same thing.
     
  23. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

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    I'd rather see more of the actual cars on the track and less of the graphic. If I wanted to look at a graphic of the field, I'd be on line.
     
  24. sdj

    sdj Just a race fan

    @AndyMarquisLive you have connections in the media, send this to FOX and tell them you know a bunch of Nascar fans that dislike what they had Sunday and this is a way better scheme.:booya:
     
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  25. dpkimmel2001

    dpkimmel2001 Team Owner

  26. Pat

    Pat Team Owner

  27. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

  28. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

  29. AndyMarquisLive

    AndyMarquisLive Short Track Fanatic





    Sounds like Fox is sticking with this.

    Shame.

    If I wanted to watch a race in a 4:3 screen, I'd find a time machine and transport myself back to 1995.
     
  30. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    Works for me. I would suggest those watching on a flip phone or a tablet acquire a flat screen TV set :rolleyes::p:D
     
  31. Mopardh9

    Mopardh9 Team Owner

    Like the 65 inch one I have?
     
  32. Pat

    Pat Team Owner

    I think the pylon needs work, but I like being able to see more than 5 positions at a time, especially when they start the ticker over while I'm trying to locate a specific car.ARRRRGH!
     
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  33. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    yep that old ticker was junk
     
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  34. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

  35. Larsonfan1995

    Larsonfan1995 Team Owner

    82,000 people attended the 2012 Budweiser Shootout.
    If that same crowd were at Daytona Sunday, it would've been almost a full house. Instead, 7500 people max.
    The fans have spoken. Also, I haven't heard of a sellout yet for the 500. When is the last time the 500 didn't sell out?
     
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  36. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    Turn 1 Lower/Middle/Upper all have tickets remaining, and Turn 4 Lower and Upper have tickets left. Upper and Middle Start/Finish Line has yet to sell out, but those all require 2- or 4-day package purchases.

    [​IMG]
     
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  37. 4tires17gals

    4tires17gals Team Owner

    The rainbow seats give me a headache
     
  38. rowdy3

    rowdy3 Tire changer

    The 500 has a 3 pm start time now. I've been given so many tickets that it's not even funny. I see the Rolex lounge, 500 club and presidents row still has tickets.
     
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  39. Nitro Dude

    Nitro Dude Hauler Driver and Cylinder Head Maintenance

    I'm pretty excited to see that Alex Bowman is on the pole this weekend. I am really looking forward to Daytona this year.
     
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  40. jws926

    jws926 Nissan Is Love, Nissan Is Life

    Silly Charile, wanting to see race cars on a TV screen.

    (Yes, the new ticker sucks)
     
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