2019 Auto Club Speedway --Auto Club 400 -- Pre-Race Thread

Discussion in 'NASCAR chat' started by Johali, Mar 10, 2019.

  1. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    Lol. Even MRN - NASCAR state media - said the fans in the stands are booing.

    Yikes. But hey - NASCAR’s in show business, folks!
     
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  2. Ventisca

    Ventisca Team Owner Contributor

    Time to drug test all NASCAR Executives... :D
     
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  3. Kiante

    Kiante Team Owner

    NASCAR's fault for trying to implement useless gimmicks.

    Teams follow suit with the rules and with this package, it makes it pointless to go out alone on track. The package has been pretty good on Sunday when it matters.
     
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  4. Zerkfitting

    Zerkfitting Team Owner

    Group qualifying doesn't work.
     
  5. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

    Pure stupidity to sit when you know you arent going to make it. The teams should be embarrassed
     
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  6. FearThe4

    FearThe4 Team Owner

    all the drivers deserved that for sitting on pit road like idiots.
     
  7. AdoubleU24

    AdoubleU24 Team Owner

    The fact that all they changed going into this was the pit road speed limit is hilarious.

    It's so obvious to everyone except the morons running the show.
     
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  8. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

    Its not a gimmick, you have a car, you have a clock, use it.
     
  9. Brentford

    Brentford Team Owner

    If I were them, I would trash the tapes and try to pretend it never happened.
     
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  10. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    I don't know about anybody else, but I don't blame the teams. They're doing their best to take advantage of the aero package they've been given. I don't care that none of them advanced. Even it they'd all made the line, qualifying is now just another meaningless drafting crap shoot. I blame NASCAR for not seeing that coming, and I expect I'll continue to blame them all season as I don't expect them to make any changes.
     
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  11. BobbyFord

    BobbyFord Resident Gearhead Contributor

    I used to look forward to watching qualifying. My bad for tuning in this afternoon. :(
     
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  12. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    Yeah, that's an invite to the Monster hauler.
     
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  13. SeventyGTX

    SeventyGTX Team Owner

    The gimmick is group qualifying for the "show".
     
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  14. Pandaz3

    Pandaz3 Jackman

    Laughingstock qualifying
     
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  15. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    I assume you saw what happened to Kurt Busch in the second round? Pure stupidity to go out by yourself. Essentially these teams made the call to sit on their second round speeds.
     
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  16. Kiante

    Kiante Team Owner

    Its a gimmick that was brought from F1 and Moto GP. The teams have a car, engineers, and everything else. At the end of the day, its the template of the rules that are laid out and teams move within them.

    It works for them for open wheel racing, but for NASCAR not so much. Just keep it simple with single car runs, at least IMO. I get where you're coming from though, but after the whole experiment with the pack qualifying on plate tracks and jams on the short tracks. Just keep it simple.
     
  17. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

    Drivers and teams fault.
     
  18. gnomesayin

    gnomesayin Team Owner

    They somehow managed to cheapen the process, remove all credibility, and make it immensely boring and unsatisfying. Quite a feat.
     
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  19. AdoubleU24

    AdoubleU24 Team Owner

    If they were running last year's package they woulda made it :)
     
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  20. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

    Yeah and if one of those drivers would have gone out they would be on the pole
     
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  21. SeventyGTX

    SeventyGTX Team Owner

    Obviously, but if they didn't have a rules package that penalized the first car out, they wouldn't have this problem. The only solution is back to single car qualifying.
     
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  22. kyle18fan

    kyle18fan Proud member of Rowdy Nation Contributor

  23. AdoubleU24

    AdoubleU24 Team Owner

    I'm not surprised whatsoever that you're the only one defending NASCAR on this lol.

    "They don't race by themselves so why should they qualify by themselves." Amirite?
     
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  24. Kiante

    Kiante Team Owner

    What they have is good for Sunday IMHO. Honestly, I can't ask for much more in how the racing has been so far. Just the drafting during qualifying... Eh, not the greatest thing.
     
  25. Switchback

    Switchback Team Owner

    No they wouldn't, everyone else would have followed and they'd probably be 12th for being out first.
     
  26. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    If one of those drivers had gone, the rest would have followed, benefited from his being in front, and he'd have wound up 12th. I don't remember who led the pack off pit road toward the end of the second round but I do remember he wound up 15th. Being the leader is poison.

    If your second round was in the top 5, you have almost nothing to gain by having the third round run successfully. You have little to lose by getting to the front of pit road at the start of the third and trying to slow the rest of the pack when they roll. If I could figure that out just now, the crew chiefs figured it out at Atlanta.

    EDIT: anybody have this DVR'ed? When the cars were sitting at pit exit, I'd love to know which three were in front and where they finished round 2.
     
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  27. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    I gotta agree with you on this one. If they'd have been running last year's package, they would have handled their strategy completely differently.
     
  28. AdoubleU24

    AdoubleU24 Team Owner

    My point was moreso that they would've had the HP and mph to make it back around lol
     
  29. Kiante

    Kiante Team Owner

    They did:

    5 minutes last year and about 30-40 seconds in the cars were already out. Fast forward to about... 43 minutes in. This was for the spring race last year.
     
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  30. Larsonfan1995

    Larsonfan1995 Team Owner

    This is why NASCAR is hemorrhaging fans. Absolutely no credibility
     
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  31. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

    This aint last year my friend.
     
  32. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

    Crap ass package, I only saw one supposed Cup driver spin it out
     
  33. jws926

    jws926 Nissan Is Love, Nissan Is Life

    Wow.....
     
  34. Kiante

    Kiante Team Owner

    I know, but I was just answering Charlie's question about strategy. Two completely different beasts at the end of the day.

    Today, cars left with about 45 seconds left. Last year was about 4 minutes and 20 seconds left. In the last round of the session.
     
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  35. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

    I was referencing what Kurt Busch did
     
  36. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    That's his point, that there's no value to comparisons to last year. He's on the same side of this point as you and I.
     
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  37. Kiante

    Kiante Team Owner

    Exactly, two completely different situations. Crew chief's and engineers maximizing what they have at the end of the day.
     
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  38. BobbyFord

    BobbyFord Resident Gearhead Contributor

    Anyone still curious why fans are fading away?
     
  39. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    We reversed ours for the year last weekend. They're blowing down now instead of up.
     
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  40. lisa

    lisa Kurt Busch fan

    Where did Kurt qualify?
     

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