RacerrecaR
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Yes.
2022 Silly Season
- Thread starter Jorge De Guzman
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Charlie Spencer
Road courses and short tracks.
Say what?
StandOnIt
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Dr_B_UNC
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Nah. He's just imitating 90's rappers and yelling the name of the record label in the background of the song so to speak.
StandOnIt
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Wow, big jump
Jorge De Guzman
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this is fantastic, seems so many new teams are going to be on next year's grid. It's good for everyone: shop personnel, drivers, sponsors. Fox said this is the best season ever, I have to think I am very excited for 22 and on.
Blaze
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Next year could be amazing. Hell next year we might actually have to send people home if we get enough teams some weeks… wow
StandOnIt
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They have been doing that regularly in the Trucks and the Xfinities. It will be something if they do. They only need two cars to start a race team in cup. Yeah that's a bit thin, but it is doable, three so if one was busted up they would have two to go to the race. People rail on Nascar, but all those people aren't billionaires because they are stupid.
2 Sweet
HMS 4-life
HUGE news, probably deserving of it's own thread! I'm very glad to see GMS making the jump. I'm guessing they will have a strong alliance with Hendrick Motorsports, but time will tell
DanicaFreak
She's crazy.
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^^I just created it. Missed it here.
Kiante
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Hopefully it lasts longer than the Xfinity program.
Cool to see GMS expand, but eh, I wish them the best.
Cool to see GMS expand, but eh, I wish them the best.
FLRacingFan
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Could be a Kaulig-type debut where they get their feet wet first:
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I'm not a huge Kurt Bush fan but I think if you put him back in an SHR car both him and Harvick would be right up front again.
Jorge De Guzman
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RCR. Richard isnt letting him go without a fight I'd imagine
Nitro Dude
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It is so cool to see Alex get this contract extension. Knowing that a company like Ally and a racing organization like HMS seeing so much value in Alex makes me feel so good for him. It is just plain awesome to see someone you have worked around when they first started out go on and have so much success in their life. It couldn't of happened to a nicer guy and he deserves it.
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I believe it was on DBC this week that they said expect some big silly season domino to fall Friday or this weekend. I can't imagine this was it.
FLRacingFan
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Hamlin and Justin Marks said a couple of weeks ago they’re not willing to pony up that much for charters. Eventually these asking prices are going to drop, some of the smaller teams probably can’t even afford to turn over a whole fleet for multiple entries because they typically run older stuff.
Kiante
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Kaulig has obtained two charters.
Kiante
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I'm guessing Kaulig obtained two (or one of the two) charters from Rick Ware. Rick Ware wanted too much for the charter and they disagreed.
With GMS, JRM, a (possible) second entry from 23XI or Trackhouse is causing a major bottleneck with the charters now.
FLRacingFan
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A little interesting that AJ is still doing Xfinity full-time with a part-time Cup deal. A lot of other drivers will want a piece of the second Cup car.
Kiante
Team Owner
Haley will probably have Leaf Filter, plus a driver bringing in sponsorship in the second car.
We might see a musical chairs a lot next season.
I love being wrong:
So Spire will focus on Lajoie while Haley sticks with Kaulig. Wait Spire sold them both and they leased a charter to Trackhouse this season...
My head is spinning already.
Nitro Dude
Hauler Driver and Cylinder Head Maintenance
I doubt that was the big news they were talking about... because this was no big surprise and was actually kind of expected. It would have been more of some shocking news if it hadn't happened imo. Alex has done such an outstanding job and things are clicking very well with all of the HMS teams right now so I doubt anyone wants to see any major changes. It seems like all of the HMS drivers get along with each other pretty good there also.
StandOnIt
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yeah mine too. I read somewhere that if a team with a charter didn't perform in like three years they had to sell the charters. I could be wrong though, but Spire hasn't been doing that great..I'm waiting for Rick Ware Racing to bite the dust
Edit I found it on Nascar.com
Charter teams are held to a minimum performance standard. If a Charter team finishes in the bottom three of the owner standings among all 36 Charter teams for three consecutive years, NASCAR has a right to remove the charter.
FLRacingFan
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Right, they’re selling the 77 and 99 and keeping Corey full-time next year.
So I think we can single out RWR as the biggest culprit of holding charters hostage for now.
Kiante
Team Owner
Ware has the 52 and 51 outside of the top 36... They are on the verge of losing one of those because I think the either of those have hovered around that space for almost three years.
Ware could lose two, honestly.
Spire bought a third charter last year before they leased it to Trackhouse this year.
StandOnIt
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If I read this right this leasing thing is about to expire this year. Charter owners may transfer their Charter to another team, for one full season, once over the first five years of the agreement.
Here's another thing, from Nascar.com, they are going to have to re approve the charter system in 2024 so I would expect some changes
Not sure Haley is ready for Cup next year. Time will tell.
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Needs more seat time during Kyle Busch tire test sessions.
Need more lurnin’.
Need more lurnin’.
Needs more seat time period.
JJ_14
Go Briscoe!
I disagree. He's been in xfinity for a while now. He's definetly ready for the big show.
3 wins in over 80 races.
We’ll see.
Blaze
The Midnight Rider
How many did Jimmie Johnson have before moving up? You can’t ever really go by that stuff man. It’s a good stat line to look at, but can’t always go off it. Dale Jr did great in his two full time years there, it didn’t translate at all. You might be right, and also it depends on how the team runs as well, but we can’t say he’s not ready based off one stat.
StandOnIt
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I like Haley a lot. He races pretty smart and doesn't get tangled up very much. That is a big help in Xfinity, but going to the big show, most of those drivers don't get tangled up very much at all and they have speed also. Reddick burned up Xfinity, Briscoe wasn't far behind and both of them haven't set cup on fire and they were better than Haley is.
ChexOrWrex
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AJ had his time in Cup. I get he’s the most experienced and the easiest choice for that seat, but IMO take a chance on someone else who didn’t fail out.
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StandOnIt
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I agree, Dinger didn't cut it in Cup but he has found his level in Xfinity. I wonder how good the Kaulig cars will be in Cup. They aren't world beaters in Xfinity, they are decent cars but it's a different world in Cup, new car or not.