35 Car Cup Field Next Year?

KTMLew01 said:
So 10 cars with full sponsorship? I mean ONE sponsor and not 6-10 associate sponsors that require a different paint scheme <don't get me started on this crap> every other week.
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What does it matter how many sponsors a team has, as long as it's sold all 36-39 races?

Paint schemes? It's just as easy to put on a different skin every week as to put on the same one. Indeed, different schemes may drive higher souvenir sales. I know I still want a #20 Tide car to go with my DeWalt and Valvoline die casts.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Anybody mentioned yet that Penske's gonna want one for the Blaney and the #12?
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I am sure they will be able to obtain one fairly inexpensively. Also IDK if the Woods will need one for Menard as I am not sure if they own or lease a charter. It sounds like there will be at least one charter available for SHR and IDK how may teams have cars and sponsors and how many are struggling.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
What does it matter how many sponsors a team has, as long as it's sold all 36-39 races?
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Because the fact that the teams can't sell ONE 20 million dollar sponsor is due to lack of ROI. At some point it'll be 10 sponsors to get 15 million or less. Less means less money for team members. The whole thing starts to collapse under it's own weight at some point.
 
says the soothsayers Nascar is going to collapse. You figure having qualifying and racing the same day..they might be on to something?..and crash carts are cheap to buy right now I hear. Mega millionaires don't know how to save money I guess. Penske saying that the major players in the game aren't having a problem, the sport is healthy, but some on here think different..I think I will go with Penske for now. Don't look now but another Toyota truck full of money just pulled up.:D
 
KTMLew01 said:
Because the fact that the teams can't sell ONE 20 million dollar sponsor is due to lack of ROI. At some point it'll be 10 sponsors to get 15 million or less. Less means less money for team members. The whole thing starts to collapse under it's own weight at some point.
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Yet somehow, the green flag will fall at Watkins Glen.

Such concern for millionaires and billionaires and what they do with their money. Your angst is misplaced, methinks ...
 
KTMLew01 said:
Because the fact that the teams can't sell ONE 20 million dollar sponsor is due to lack of ROI. At some point it'll be 10 sponsors to get 15 million or less. Less means less money for team members. The whole thing starts to collapse under it's own weight at some point.
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I don't see Nascar collapsing as they will just learn to make do with less like many companies and individuals have.
 
KTMLew01 said:
Because the fact that the teams can't sell ONE 20 million dollar sponsor is due to lack of ROI. At some point it'll be 10 sponsors to get 15 million or less. Less means less money for team members. The whole thing starts to collapse under it's own weight at some point.
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It collapses if teams continue to operate like they did the late '90s and early '00s. But there are plenty of other options between wide-open and collapse. Reduced sponsor income is driving some of those changes. Plenty of other racing series operate successfully on a smaller model than 200x Cup.
 
Some think Nascar is slow and lumbering and behind the curve and they are on some things. But in the lower mostly off the radar lower series, they have moved to composite bodies and spec motor availability for cost savings and the teams love it. Talks are underway to offer the spec motor as a cost saving option in the trucks. Besides the mega teams who obviously don't want the competition, there are quite a few truck teams that would be more competitive with that motor. It makes damn good horsepower, right up there with the rest of them. The Chevy teams that have any speed are leasing Hendrick motors, and they don't come cheap.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
-Electric- driverless cars :rolleyes:
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dpkimmel2001 said:
That is something that would not interest me in the slightest. At least, not any further than writing this response.
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I agree completely. I watch NASCAR for the sound, speed, skill, thrills and for me THE PERSONALITIES!

Go KYLE! #18 forever.
 
Remember Roush? They dropped an ixfinity car mid season this year. It's all about the almighty $ and if fans arent showing up and tv ratings drop, sponsors drop. 36 cars next year? At times, but 34 or even 33? It's very possible. Nascar trying to make it more exciting by making the cars faster have made the races boring with "clean air freight train/follow the leader" racing. When close competition returns, so will the ratings. Fans returning my take a few years. NBC and Fox dont help much. There are sponsors on the 30th thru 40th place cars but they dont get any coverage. So why would they spend there dollars to get zero air time? The only coverage they get is when they crash and thats pretty much counter productive.
 
jws926 said:
Lol I am not sure why he would care , this make's zero sense.
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The poster suggests that if Mr. Cope had not been in the field at Richmond, the race would have been affected ... in a positive way for Truex.
 
aunty dive said:
The poster suggests that if Mr. Cope had not been in the field at Richmond, the race would have been affected ... in a positive way for Truex.
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Oh right, at the very moment I was typing my reply, I had forgot about that caution flag that changed the outcome of the race that involved one of those backmarker teams.

Now his reply make's sense, please carry on.
 
aunty dive said:
The poster suggests that if Mr. Cope had not been in the field at Richmond, the race would have been affected ... in a positive way for Truex.
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Oh. I thought the implication was that Truex had finished season in the bottom 10 earlier in his career. In that case, I'll rephrase:

The bottom 10 could disappear tomorrow and the racing wouldn't be affected negatively.
 
NASCAR Apologist said:
Do you believe SHR won't field at least three cars next year? A lack of official confirmation this early in the game doesn't mean programs won't materialize. Daytona is over six months away. And Gene has gone on the record saying one of their partners tends to wait until the last month to finalize stuff.
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Maybe 3 for Daytona, but after that all bets are off.
 
CamelPowered said:
Only way to get there would be to have 2 car teams like F1. Hendrick, Gibbs, and Stewart/Haas w/satellites would be over half the field with that number.
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You don't think for one minute that SHR can replace Penske do you?
 
Charlie Spencer said:
It collapses if teams continue to operate like they did the late '90s and early '00s. But there are plenty of other options between wide-open and collapse. Reduced sponsor income is driving some of those changes. Plenty of other racing series operate successfully on a smaller model than 200x Cup.
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Sure, just like the music industry has had to make huge changes to survive. Unfortunately for NASCAR, the cost of starting out in the sport or just being in the sport aren't static.
 
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