I hate being that guy, but they did have a hand in it. No PI call on 3rd and 4 when they held Perry's arm in 2 OT, resulting in a FG. Throwing Darboh to the ground on 3rd down in the 1st quarter. The PI call on the uncatchable ball against Michigan. All very crucial plays.Home cooking all ******* day ****k Ohio state
Even as a Buckeye fan, I agree about the refs. The no-call PI and the 4th & 1 spot were.....questionable. We were definitely lucky to come away with this one.I hate being that guy, but they did have a hand in it. No PI call on 3rd and 4 when they held Perry's arm in 2 OT, resulting in a FG. Throwing Darboh to the ground on 3rd down in the 1st quarter. The PI call on the uncatchable ball against Michigan. All very crucial plays.
Regardless, this loss isn't on the refs, it's on Speight.
Actually watching Michigan State-Penn State. Pretty close right now, if MSU wins then Ohio State gets in the Big Ten Championship Game.
True. Speight made the two most crucial mistakes. And to think he supposedly won the job due to his understanding of ball security. The second one when we were up 10 was just killer. A punt would have been fine with the way the D was playing, but he gives them the ball at the 13 with all of the momentum.I hate being that guy, but they did have a hand in it. No PI call on 3rd and 4 when they held Perry's arm in 2 OT, resulting in a FG. Throwing Darboh to the ground on 3rd down in the 1st quarter. The PI call on the uncatchable ball against Michigan. All very crucial plays.
Regardless, this loss isn't on the refs, it's on Speight.
Actually watching Michigan State-Penn State. Pretty close right now, if MSU wins then Ohio State gets in the Big Ten Championship Game.
Sure thing. MSU is up 12-10 at the half.Or not. My daughter does not get sports channels.
Will you keep me updated?
The D played a great 3 quarters. They just broke down from the 4th quarter and beyond.True. Speight made the two most crucial mistakes. And to think he supposedly won the job due to his understanding of ball security. The second one when we were up 10 was just killer. A punt would have been fine with the way the D was playing, but he gives them the ball at the 13 with all of the momentum.
I wouldn't say unquestionably. Ohio State, Michigan, and Wisconsin should all make the playoffs. If not for Alabama, I would have 4 Big 10 teams in the championship. Clemson and Washington both played in pretty weak conferences this year.Yep. Unquestionably the two best teams in the Big 10 and neither will play for a conference championship. Both are better than washington and Louisville too.
Problem is they have no one to replace him with. plus the DC needs to go as well.As I've said a million times before, fire Butch Jones. Not after the bowl game, not next week, not tomorrow. Fire his ass right the **** now and leave him sitting in Nashville.
Problem is they have no one to replace him with.
I think the Big Ten will get two teams in, Ohio State and the BTCG winner. I believe the Big Ten has been the best conference in college football this year, and if the committee could put two SEC teams in the freakin' National Championship Game a few years ago, it shouldn't be that big a deal to put two Big Ten teams in the playoff.I wouldn't say unquestionably. Ohio State, Michigan, and Wisconsin should all make the playoffs. If not for Alabama, I would have 4 Big 10 teams in the championship. Clemson and Washington both played in pretty weak conferences this year.
Tons of teams are better than Louisville lol. Washington is debatable.Yep. Unquestionably the two best teams in the Big 10 and neither will play for a conference championship. Both are better than washington and Louisville too.
This is exactly why we got rid of the BCS for the CFP!! We got an all-SEC BCSNCG that we had already seen and everyone, besides Alabama fans, was pissed. Wisconsin has no business being in over a 12-1 Clemson who will probably have four wins over ranked teams if they win the ACCCG. A win over Penn State probably wouldn't give them a resume significantly better than Washington's, presuming the Huskies beat Colorado. Michigan has really good wins but no one would be able to survive losing two of their final three games. It comes down to Ohio State and/or Penn State here.I wouldn't say unquestionably. Ohio State, Michigan, and Wisconsin should all make the playoffs. If not for Alabama, I would have 4 Big 10 teams in the championship. Clemson and Washington both played in pretty weak conferences this year.
Oklahoma State got jobbed because the Harris and Coaches' voters had Alabama too far ahead for the Cowboys' advantage in the computers to make a difference. If that happened this season they would've played as #2 and #3 in some order, most likely.I think the Big Ten will get two teams in, Ohio State and the BTCG winner. I believe the Big Ten has been the best conference in college football this year, and if the committee could put two SEC teams in the freakin' National Championship Game a few years ago, it shouldn't be that big a deal to put two Big Ten teams in the playoff.
I actually found myself rooting for Penn State yesterday so the Buckeyes wouldn't have to play in the BTCG because I think they'll be in even without it. It would be a lot better for OSU if Wisconsin wins it though, since they beat Wisky head to head but lost to Penn State.
No way PSU or Wisky gets in over Michigan.I think the Big Ten will get two teams in, Ohio State and the BTCG winner. I believe the Big Ten has been the best conference in college football this year, and if the committee could put two SEC teams in the freakin' National Championship Game a few years ago, it shouldn't be that big a deal to put two Big Ten teams in the playoff.
I actually found myself rooting for Penn State yesterday so the Buckeyes wouldn't have to play in the BTCG because I think they'll be in even without it. It would be a lot better for OSU if Wisconsin wins it though, since they beat Wisky head to head but lost to Penn State.
I think Wisconsin would have a better chance of moving past Michigan in the rankings if they win the BTCG, they're ranked higher than PSU and didn't lose to Michigan as badly as Penn State did. There'd probably be a lot of butthurt if OSU and Michigan both get in and the conference champion doesn't. There's an outside chance that three Big Ten teams could get in, but Washington and Clemson would both have to lose their championship games for that to even be a possibility.No way PSU or Wisky gets in over Michigan.
If this gets too sloppy we'll probably end up with an 8 team playoff in a few years.I'm glad I'm not the one making the decision on who gets it.
That has already been in discussions for a year. Pretty sure the rumor/goal was an 8 team playoff starting in 2018.If this gets too sloppy we'll probably end up with an 8 team playoff in a few years.
That makes no sense. What's the point of conference championship games and strength of schedule if this happens? If Wisky wins, they should be in. If Penn State wins, they should be in.C'mon Colorado! If Washington loses, sounds like Michigan will be the #4 regardless. Jesus. Michigan vs Ohio State for the National Championship? I would die.
While I agree, what I posted is pretty much what the committee said though. They said Michigan and Washington are very close, so if Washington loses, Michigan will get that spot it appears. The committee chair said that comparing Penn State and OSU wasn't something they've done... OSU is basically a hard 2. UM has a better chance to make it than the B1G champ...That makes no sense. What's the point of conference championship games and strength of schedule if this happens? If Wisky wins, they should be in. If Penn State wins, they should be in.
It's just surprising because Wisconsin is currently ahead of Michigan in the coach'es poll. And that's even before the B1G championship game has been played.While I agree, what I posted is pretty much what the committee said though. They said Michigan and Washington are very close, so if Washington loses, Michigan will get that spot it appears. The committee chair said that comparing Penn State and OSU wasn't something they've done... OSU is basically a hard 2. UM has a better chance to make it than the B1G champ...
Michigan needs Colorado and Virginia tech to win because most likely the big ten championship winner will jump themC'mon Colorado! If Washington loses, sounds like Michigan will be the #4 regardless. Jesus. Michigan vs Ohio State for the National Championship? I would die.
Agreed on the eight teams. It only took until Year 3 for this to turn into a ****storm. I really do not envy the position the committee is in right now, as much as I disagree with some of their decisions.If the purpose of the playoff is to get the four best teams, then it should be Alabama, Ohio State, and Michigan. Don't really give a sh!t who gets the fourth spot, because the National Champion will be one of those three schools.
I also think we'll have 8 teams sooner rather than later. I wouldn't be surprised to see them give a spot to the champion from each of the P5 conferences and then have three at large teams.
Agreed on the eight teams. It only took until Year 3 for this to turn into a ****storm. I really do not envy the position the committee is in right now, as much as I disagree with some of their decisions.
The counter is that it may water down the regular season more but we may wind up with two-loss teams in this year anyways. As long as we don't go past 8 I think the sanctity of the regular season will be preserved.
I think 6 teams would be perfect. Automatic advancement for the "big 5" conference champions, plus 1 wildcard. Top 2 get a 1st-round bye.Agreed on the eight teams. It only took until Year 3 for this to turn into a ****storm. I really do not envy the position the committee is in right now, as much as I disagree with some of their decisions.
After listening to the committee, it really doesn't sound like that's going to happen.Michigan needs Colorado and Virginia tech to win because most likely the big ten championship winner will jump them