F1 2023 News/Misc.
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South Florida got hit with 1 foot of rain in 24 hours. It's no wonder they got flooding, but there's probably enough time for it to dry out.
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Look who’s coming back from boat duty.
Allison returns to technical director role at Mercedes
James Allison has returned to the role of technical director at the Mercedes Formula One team after switching jobs with Mike Elliott.
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Good for Michelin for looking out for their interest. But as the customer I think F1 should get the tires they want rather than being controlled the supplier.
West
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I'm sure they or any major tire company can build a tire to any specification if asked. I doubt there is a secret sauce.
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Tire construction is a tough business in racing. The tires have to be built to withstand massive loads and heat but be able to put on a good show as well. The casual fan might not understand why tires are degrading so much if they’re designed to wear.
In Michelin’s case they’re known as the best tire supplier in the sports car world with tires that can be double- and triple-stinted if need be, and in Audi’s infamous case at Le Mans in 2011, even quintuple-stinted. Pirelli are seemingly okay with building single-stint use tires, even in the sports car series they supply, but they often wind up catching flack in F1 for tires that either wear too much or too little. It’s a tough balance to attain when the series requires use of multiple compounds and different levels of grip/wear.
In Michelin’s case they’re known as the best tire supplier in the sports car world with tires that can be double- and triple-stinted if need be, and in Audi’s infamous case at Le Mans in 2011, even quintuple-stinted. Pirelli are seemingly okay with building single-stint use tires, even in the sports car series they supply, but they often wind up catching flack in F1 for tires that either wear too much or too little. It’s a tough balance to attain when the series requires use of multiple compounds and different levels of grip/wear.
West
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Look at F1's past tire history
en.wikipedia.org
I bet there is a lot of politics involved before they make a decision, with little to do with the chemical ingredience of the product.
Formula One tyres - Wikipedia
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From a marketing standpoint, what does Pirelli get out of it? All you hear is the tires won't switch on, they wouldn't get in the right operating window, the deg killed, the tires were finished after a lap. Are they tires or are they cheeze wheels?
I'm not sure Michelin needs that when the sportscar drives talk about how they can triple stint the tires, they have superb grip and are great in the rain. Why would they want to sully thier name by building cheezey tires that won't last a full GP distance and all the drivers complaining about them?
I understand Michelin's stance completely. What I don't understand is why Pirelli let's F1 tell them how to build a tire that generates nothing but complaints and makes them look bad. Finished after a lap? Doesn't make me want to run out and put Pirellis on the wife's car.
I hate the tire game. I hate it. If you want an example how you can lose a championship because of the tire game, look to Abu Dabi 2021. I much preferred it when they all ran one set of tires for the whole race and part of the skill was keeping them healthy. I get tired of the commentators spewing for two hours about tire compounds, overcuts, undercuts, and things that were never a part of racing until the powers that be thought the show needed "spicing up."
That's as negatitive as I'm going to be because the racing isn't bad. They fixed the cars. Now fix the tires.
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Meanwhile, Porsche won the Long Beach IMSA race using one set of Michelins.
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Forgot it was Michelin who had the debacle at the US GP in 2005. They dominated that season (that was their only loss) but were probably remembered most for that “race”.Look at F1's past tire history
I bet there is a lot of politics involved before they make a decision, with little to do with the chemical ingredience of the product.Formula One tyres - Wikipedia
Interesting that that season without any tire changes was their best.
West
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I remember that race, it was almost as bad as Mosley in a Nazi sex video.
donthaveanickname
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I guess it isn't my problem if Michelin doesn't want the revenue from being F1's official tire supplier.
Actually I wish F1 ran tires that wear even more than now. Whenever they had one-stop races in recent years it usually turned out to be pretty boring.
Tires that last for an entire race would create extremely bad racing.
Actually I wish F1 ran tires that wear even more than now. Whenever they had one-stop races in recent years it usually turned out to be pretty boring.
Tires that last for an entire race would create extremely bad racing.
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Max' father was a member of the nazi party during the way. I believe he was head of the British nazi party. You might think the FIA would have bounced him over the nazi hooker thing, but instead they gave him an overwhelming vote of confidence.
Mosley wins confidence vote after scandal
Motor racing's world governing body gave Max Mosley a strong vote of confidence to remain as president on Tuesday despite his involvement in a lurid sex scandal.
www.reuters.com
And, they got the nazi hooker orgy on video, so how could even one person think Mosley wasn't a sick creep? I don't believe an orgy is illegal, but the Europeans are pretty serious about getting rid of nazis and neo-nazis. How they allowed nazis to run things for so many years is a mystery to me.
Further, the FIA was previously run by Jean Mari Baleste, who was also claimed to be part of the French SS........ https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...d-Max-Mosley-son-Nazi-sympathiser-Oswald.html
It took until Jean Todt to completely purge the Nazi influence from the FIA.
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Ron Dennis was never seen gloating about his rival's nazi hooker troubles in public. Privately, though.............
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Massa isn't earning a lot of respect lately: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ot...p&cvid=22c5e9b46ca54a71b28eddbbd74c69d6&ei=10
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Rumor has it Fernando is dating Taylor Swift
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Fernando Alonso heats up Taylor Swift dating rumors with cheeky TikTok
Formula 1 driver Fernando Alonso was recently rumoured to be dating newly-single pop artist Taylor Swift and he deliberately turned up the heat with a cheeky TikTok video shared Mo
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Racer's TV guide does not show the Baku GP on ESPN. Anyone know when it will be on?
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Never mind. I found it. Damm, that sure is early.
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My vote goes to Stewart. He was called a coward for not wanting to race in the rain and fog. but then he went out and buried everyone over four minutes behind him.
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It's gettin' spicey............... https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ot...p&cvid=c0680b9da7ee4595b42cb34ea823e360&ei=54
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Oh, it's getting real spicey: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ot...p&cvid=4a1a49c20caa48c78ffda3155ab6757f&ei=11
How many guys has Max run wide in his career? I don't think he has much room to complain.
How many guys has Max run wide in his career? I don't think he has much room to complain.
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It's just a rumor right now so I wouldn't panic yet but if Liberty buys IndyCar and turns it into F2 Americas someone has to come up with IRL 2.0
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Liberty was one of the finalists to buy the series and IMS a few years back, but it sounds like Windsor is way late on this or talking out of his ass. Penske already denied the rumors of them selling it a couple of weeks back and if they did, they wouldn’t sell to someone who wants to make it a feeder series. That idea doesn’t even make sense to begin with, F2 barely graduates drivers to F1 as it is now and it’s not like teams want the grid to expand.
Doc Austin
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The inaccurate reporting is just as bad in motorsports as it is in politics. Penske wasn't going to buy IMS and Indycar just to flip it.
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Hard to believe considering the shorter DRS zones made for a procession in Baku.
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Or maybe their favorite driver who they had no idea existed before their binging of Drive to Survive, should you know try......harder. I hope Max wins the next 3 in a row so the Johhny Come Lately's cry harder. Gosh, someone thinking F1 is boring...... shoot them to the moon.
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Lmao!
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I’d rather have had Days of Thunder 2...than whatever that Brad Pitt movie is going to be. I mean we already have a GOAT of an F1 Movie: Rush
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Pitt is even more unbelievable here than Stallone was in "Driven".