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Has Jimmie Johnson (at age 43) lost a step?

Discussion in 'NASCAR chat' started by Elliott_Fan_9, Aug 12, 2019.

  1. Elliott_Fan_9

    Elliott_Fan_9 Formerly JJ_14

    I hesitate to post this topic at all, because it could all change quickly, maybe Sunday at Bristol. But what the hell... let's roll.

    This thread is inevitable... might as well start it myself!
     
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  2. DIDIT

    DIDIT Old School Fan

    At 43...sure
     
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  3. BobbyFord

    BobbyFord Resident Gearhead Contributor

    JJ lost a step when they began the laser inspection process.
     
  4. Larsonfan1995

    Larsonfan1995 Team Owner

    Jimmie tripped on the top step of an endless staircase at Dover in 2017 and has been falling since. Amazing how quick the falloff was.
     
  5. Switchback

    Switchback Team Owner

    Jimmie was strong right up until the Hendrick fall off. Now Hendrick seems to be getting things righted but Jimmie seems to have gotten lost along the way. I'm sure if they rolled out the 2010 cars next week, he'd be competitive. I'm not sure if he'll get a handle on this package before it's too late. The clock is ticking.
     
  6. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    He is the same age as when Gordon retired 43 FWIW
     
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  7. ToyYoda

    ToyYoda Team Owner

    He’s like that little cliffhanger guy on The Price Is Right. His whole career was just up and up and up, then he fell off the mountain.
     
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  8. hidesert cowboy

    hidesert cowboy Team Owner

    umm the HMS cars are terrible, The racing is totally different than in the past. still people should wonder why he isn't fast at dover and martinsville still even with the rules changes.
     
  9. AndyMarquisLive

    AndyMarquisLive Short Track Fanatic

    "Has (insert driver name here) lost a step?" is the new "Does (insert driver name here) even care anymore?"
     
  10. Truex_rox

    Truex_rox 19 looks better than ever.

    I'm not sure that I want to commit to going on the record and saying that Jimmie Johnson has lost a step just yet. He has three races to make the playoffs, and up until a recent spate of bad luck, it seemed like him and his team were actually turning over a new leaf.
     
  11. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    I wonder what this place was like when Gordon went through his rough times...tough crowd here.
     
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  12. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    He’s going through a rough patch it happened to Petty, Earnhardt, Gordon, Bill Elliott, Dale Jarrett, Rusty Wallace, Mark Martin, Tony Stewart and DW. It happened to all former champions and regular winners
     
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  13. be9ak7ts16

    be9ak7ts16 Johali Lives

    Bill Elliott went winless for 9 years while struggling with his own ream. He joined up with Ray Evernham and 4 won races. He came up short of winning 5 when he had problems on turn 4 of the last lap. Never count these guys out.
     
  14. jaqua19

    jaqua19 Team Owner

    Jimmie has lost a step. But he can still win with competitive cars.
     
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  15. JohnHill

    JohnHill member of Who Dat Nation

    After winning 7 championships, you’re allowed to loose a step.
     
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  16. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    If he makes it, I don’t see him advancing.
     
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  17. jaqua19

    jaqua19 Team Owner

    Yeah. But it's not that, because he still isn't running well. In these kind of situations, when a champion loses a step, you wonder if said driver would dominate the champions of today. You usually don't know because they are of separate eras.

    But that's the thing. He beat today's "best" drivers for a decade. Harvick has been in cup longer than Jimmie. Kyle in 05, Truex 06, Logano 09 Brad 12. He won 7 titles against Busch, Truex and Harvick. 4 against Logano. 2 Against Brad. He's won 2 titles since Brad won his only title. Won a title after Kyle did. Theres nothing any driver active today can do to usurp Jimmie, or become a new GOAT. Nothing else to prove. He should retire in 2020
     
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  18. ToyYoda

    ToyYoda Team Owner

    2010 was Brad’s first full Cup season.
     
  19. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    Jimmie's slow down/drought is much sharper than Gordon's was
    nailed it. I go back to when Petty was mostly a back marker and TV was broadcasting races, Petty's career was on the far end. From 85 to 92 he didn't win a race. Only 2 top 10's his last 4 years. I pretty much know Johnson won't run as long as Petty did in today's world. His contract is up next year, probably about right time wise. I'd like to see him win at least one race this year and get into the playoffs, he has never not made them.
     
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  20. aunty dive

    aunty dive Team Owner

    Amen
     
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  21. DSquad48

    DSquad48 Wizard/Mall Santa

    His talent was put on display when he could use his foot to steer. The racing is different now, and he isn't very good at it.

    Of course it doesn't help that Hendrick has been in a slump, but at the very least the 48 should be outrunning their other 3 cars on a consistent basis. That's a simple benchmark that isn't being met. It isn't just the car. And this is coming from a die-hard JJ fan.
     
    Last edited: Aug 12, 2019
  22. Turtle84

    Turtle84 gained a step

    And don't forget 5 in a row that made some fans nauseous :)
     
  23. Ventisca

    Ventisca Team Owner

    He stopped believing in Chad. Chad was the talent that kept Jimmie focused, until Jimmie's ego needed separation from Chad.

    Jimmie looks like a confused old guy trying to maintain his grasp on the 18th rung
    (I'll just post this here. :))
     
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  24. Ventisca

    Ventisca Team Owner

    Jimmie blamed the car for coming up to block -- for him hitting the wall. THIS, from the in-car audio.

    Ridiculous.
     
    Last edited: Aug 12, 2019
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  25. ChexOrWrex

    ChexOrWrex Ya gotta wanna

    Absolute troll fest. Lost around 10 members.
     
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  26. JohnHill

    JohnHill member of Who Dat Nation

    As ‘good’ as chad knaus is... look at what he needs in the drivers seat.

    There’s a narrative out there, that Jimmie is ‘nothing’ without chad. Well, what about chad without Jimmie?

    Yeah Byron is young, but the end all be all chad knaus is still working on getting him in victory lane.

    And to be honest, yes it probably is just a matter of time until William wins, but I’m just trying to look at this from all sides.
     
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  27. jws926

    jws926 I need to think of something new for here

    Losing a step is the price we pay for aging, some are able to deal with it better than others.

    We should probably get a thread started for Kurt, and Brad, Ryan Newman and Clint too.
     
  28. Truex_rox

    Truex_rox 19 looks better than ever.

    Ryan Newman? That man has stagnated for years.
    Kurt and Brad are good.
    Clint has been hot garbage this year.
     
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  29. jws926

    jws926 I need to think of something new for here

    I don't think you got that was me poking fun at the current trend of "lost a step threads";)
     
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  30. ChexOrWrex

    ChexOrWrex Ya gotta wanna

    I’m not sure if its aging by itself (eyesight is worse, reactions are slower, etc...) or more the fact that all new competition that enters sports are just higher talented athletes. I’ve written research papers about this concept including technology, sports medicines, genetics, and more and could go on for paragraphs on paragraphs. Long story short theres a scientific reason there is a Jeff Gordon to a Dale Earnhardt, a Jimmie Johnson to a Jeff Gordon, a LeBron to a Michael Jordon, a Tom Brady to a Joe Montana etc... It’s not just luck.

    It might be another 10 years but if we think Jimmie Johnson’s 5 championships in a row is untouchable or Jeff Gordon’s wins/top 5s from 1995 - 2001 is unbeatable, think again.
     
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  31. AuzGrams

    AuzGrams Team Owner

    What a depressing thread. I hope Jimmie, Ryan Newman, Kurt, etc stick around until they're beyond washed up.

    Oh, and last I checked, Ryan & Kurt are actually doing pretty well.
     
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  32. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    I was hoping we could get another “Hey NASCAR..Listen to your fans” thread going
     
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  33. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    Lots of mini stories of will he make it this year? Suarez, Boyer, Newman, and Johnson. Good stuff

     
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  34. Truex_rox

    Truex_rox 19 looks better than ever.

    Gotcha. :lol2:
     
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  35. Truex_rox

    Truex_rox 19 looks better than ever.

    While we're at it... has Aric Almirola (at age 35) lost a step?
     
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  36. SlicedBread22

    SlicedBread22 #TeamJL

    It's the car :whoopee:
     
  37. jaqua19

    jaqua19 Team Owner

    It's a combination of both probably

    Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk
     
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  38. Larsonfan1995

    Larsonfan1995 Team Owner

    Has Kyle Larson (at age 27) lost a step?
    Has Clint Bowyer (at age 40) lost a step?
    Has Erik Jones (at age 23) lost a step?
    Has Ryan Blaney (at age 25) lost a step?
     
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  39. SlicedBread22

    SlicedBread22 #TeamJL

    :lol2:
     
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  40. Ventisca

    Ventisca Team Owner

    Yes
    Yes
    No
    No
     

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