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Only giving back what has been given to me.
Only giving back what has been given to me.
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Ooooooooooooo that hurt
Although I'd be willing to bet if Kasey was in that same situation instead of this...
It'd be something like..
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Ooooooooooooo that hurt
Although I'd be willing to bet if Kasey was in that same situation instead of this...
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It'd be something like..
LOL...Just breaking your balls. Honestly I don't know how Kasey would react in a situation like that. He is so mild mannered and rarley does anything on the track to piss anyone off to that point. That's why I am so surprised about the observation you have about Joey. I see him and Kasey as very similar...they are both clean cut, they are both young and they are both on the small side and I feel like at times they have both lacked respect from other drivers because of this.
I am curious if you have ever met Joey.....TV does no justice for how skinny and lanky he is. I have not "met" him but when I was at Loudon a few years ago he came within about 3 feet of me when some police officers were walking with him under the grandstands escorting him to a meet and greet of some type. I actually lost some respect for Tony Stewart in that water bottle incident. Tony is about 5 times Logaon's size....easy to pick on someone like that.
FLRacingFan
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Kahne is going to be in the Chase again. First driver out as of now, only twelve points behind Dillon.
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I am encouraged...I will say that. He has the speed again. The team is coming around. I thought he might sneak out of there with a win at one point but the cautions were killing him. Gordon and Harvick were better than him but if not for all those cautions they never would have caught up.
blue92
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he just needs a Charger to start winning again.
Good thing this thread got back on track --- it was about to be history.
Good thing Kasey had some good luck for a change so the silliness was curtailed.
Good thing Kasey had some good luck for a change so the silliness was curtailed.
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I always thought kahne would be a superstar, just hasnt happened! Newman too!
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Even as a fan of his I never pictured him to be a superstar. I see him as a guy who is CAPABLE of winning anywhere but as a driver he is streaky at times. Still needs to learn how to get a top 10 out of a top 20 car. Listening to him on the radio his attitude is much improved. Charlotte is his best track so he should be good this weekend and next now they they have some momentum.
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You mean the guy who actually blamed Clint for wrecking him last night? Too funny.
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Yeah, couldn't figure that out either. Clint was bewildered, and Pattie was pissed at some comment he made. I really like Pattie--Doesn't take **** from anyone.
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I feel Kasey's frustration on this one. You have to remember that Kasey has been burned by this before....Spring race at Dover in 2004...well on his way to his first win and hits oil put down by a lapped car and wrecks. Fall race at Bristol in 2012....leading the race and again a lapped car in front of him puts oil down and he slaps the wall....Then this happens Saturday night....Oh well. The car was awesome and that could spell trouble for the rest of the field Sunday night with Kasey's record at Charlotte....it he can avoid any more bad luck.
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600 miles provides tons of opportunity for bad luck. He's great there, however. Just drive man.
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This just in....Farmer's Insurance (who came to Hendrick to sponsor the 5 car the same year as Kasey by some wild conicidence) just signed an extension with Hendrick and the 5 car through 2017.....So using your logic that would mean a contract extension for Kasey is just around the corner.
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i feel like with Axalta's extension, as long as his back let him, yes Gordon will stay. but i don't feel the same with Kasey's situation, i believe they would be fine with Chase in the car, really whoever Rick has in the car. but i don't think Chase is going to stay in nationwide for 3 years like FLRacingFan said. Kasey could be trouble after this season, but i hear Roush may be needing a driver. don't know if pairing Kahne and Ford together again could work, i'm sure Yates wouldn't be thrilled.
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I don't know where you draw your conclusion from. Gordon himself said he would retire this year if he won the championship AND the sponsor signed with the team and not the driver and he has no intention of racing that long. As for Kasey...I was being sarcastic as I don't think this guarantees his ride either but I still maintain that if he gets the boot it's a bad decision. He is back to being on par with the rest of HMS and has not even been the lowest finishing HMS car the last few races and they appear to be in the ballpark as far as speed. Also, I just don't see RIck letting Kasey go when Rick will just have to turn around and fill the seat again in a year or two. Wins are hard to come by - ask Matt Kenseth who won 7 races last year and has none this year and just got a what?....a contract extension that's what. Once gain if you take Kyle Bush out of the mix taking another good finish away from Kasey at Pocono he'd be in the case. Even with all that has gone wrong he is only a few points out now and I don't see many more new winners coming this year except maybe Kenseth, Kasey and possibly Tony Stewart as he can turn it on at any time. There is also the possibility of Ambrose at Watkins Glen but I would really hate to see that.
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of course i have nothing but my opinion to go on, but i don't see Gordon retiring as long as he is still contending for wins and his health is good. i can't see Rick firing him, or Jimmie, or Jr, and i don't believe Chase can be held back much longer, i mean he's been on Rick's payroll before he could drive, so i wouldn't think he would run the risk of letting another owner scoop him up just with an offer of a cup ride. Kasey seems to be the man on the way out, but again i'm just posting my opinion, Chase may be fine with running nationwide for a few more years, just can't see that happening. and if Bill's fans are behind Chase like Dale Sr was to Jr, then Kasey doesn't have a chance.
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It seems like every interview I see with KK, he's so bland and has zero personality. I do think he's a decent driver but if he's going to be so streaky, he needs to develop some kind of personality on camera so people might remember he exists occasionally.
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I see what you are saying but now the question is this.....Farmer's is signed on as the PRIMARAY sponsor of the 5 for the majority of the races through 2017 so if Chase takes that car what happens to NAPA who is already tied to Chase as his primary sponsor? I also find it ironic that you mentioned Bill Elliott because I was a fan of his and can't wait to see Chase in this level but I still don't think it's fair to Kasey. Like I said before Rick is not stupid and he is looking beyond just this contract. If Chase takes the 5 in 2016 and they give Kasey the boot who will get the 24 in the next year or two when Jeff DOES retire? Rick would have to have someone in mind that is better than Kasey. I also believe Jeff would not hold on another year and take a ride from someone if he knewhe was hurting the long term future of the team. Will be interesting to see what does happen. If it comes down to one year I still believe they would leave Chase in NNS for that ONE year and he would still only be 21-22 years old when he comes up.
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Kasey is signed with Hendrick through 2015, and I personally believe he will get resigned after winning a few more races this year and next year. Chase will be in Jeff's car either 2015 or 2016 IMO.
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I think it will be 2016 UNLESS Jeff wins it all this year and decides to hang it up. I am curious though...do you really think that if he does not win then he's out? I really think people underestimate how hard it is to win at this level. To win everything has to go just right. It would be Kasey's luck that in a year that you need a win and you're in could be his first winless year since 2007. It almost seems like the format changes every year to what could have benefited him in the past. He won 6 races in 2006 and was the first car out. Now he could be a top 10 in points and still be the first car out because he has no wins. I am not saying I don't think he will win. I just relaize it's possible with how hard winning is. I am still just sick of the way people rip on Kasey and seem to want him out of the car as soon they have a slump. Carl Edwards is also a streaky driver and had a few winless seasons recently but no one was calling for his head and now he seems to be the free agwn that people want. I guess it's OK to be streaky and have winless seasons if you keep smiling about it.
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I think Jeff is the type of guy who would offer to step out of the car if Rick wanted to move Chase up to Cup. He would probably become co-owner of the car. You can bet Jeff is already making plans for retiring within the next few years. He's getting old and he wants to spend more time with his family. Not to mention his back is hurting. If he wins the Championship this year it's pretty much guaranteed he will retire this year, unless for some reason Rick isn't able to get Chase or another driver to fill his seat (contracts, sponsorship, etc). No better way to go out then when you're on top. If his back problems don't improve then I think he will retire at the end of this year or next year.
I think Kahne is safe. He's a good driver, fairly young and still has a lot of years ahead of him. Sponsors love him, as well. Unless Rick can somehow snatch Larson away from Ganassi. >_>
I think Kahne is safe. He's a good driver, fairly young and still has a lot of years ahead of him. Sponsors love him, as well. Unless Rick can somehow snatch Larson away from Ganassi. >_>
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What? You think the same Jeff Gordon who wrecked Clint Bowyer at Phoenix would end his career before he was he ready so some 18 year old can drive his car? He'd probably go straight to RCR, SHR or start his own team and try to rub Hendrick's face in it.
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If I am not mistaken he is already co-owner of the car.
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Anyone that believes jeff gordon is just willy nilly gonna step outta the car for some snot nosed youngster is a fool & should quit their day job to be a comedian.
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You really need to chill. First off...the observation that he could step out is based on what he himself has said. If Gordon were 100% healthy and felt he could compete for championships year in and year out and did not have all the family stuff going on that he does I don't think he would retire either. All that is being said is that there are a lot of things that factor into his decision and when he comes down to it if his back his hurting and he is tired and has wants to spend time with his familly AND it may be in the best interest of the team LONG TERM that will all factor ito his decision. Make no mistake...that car is Gordon's as long as he wants it and there is not question he has earned that as he one of the all time greats. That does not mean he will hang on as long as he can though. I still think people forget how long he has been racing for a guy that is in his early ro mid 40's. The grind must be wearing on him.
As for your comment about Chase being "snot nosed" you obviously have not seen him much. He is a calm well presented clean cut kid who is mature beyond his years and winning races in NNS against veterans on tracks that he has never seen. If everyone was as iggnorant as you and laughed at the things you do (since you obviously put little if any thought into anything) I WOULD quit my day job and become a stand up comic - it would be easy money to make mindless morons laugh.
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I laugh, you come after me.
Johali laughs, you just brush it aside.
Ok.
Snot nosed just refers to him as inexperienced. For gods sake he's still in highschool. He's full of talent no doubt buy he's way far off from paying his dues. He'll eventually get into the wrong driver in the cup series, just as every young guy has.
About Jeff, he's made several joking comments about retirement because the media has made many many more. He's said so many times "as long as I am competing for wins I will stay". Gordon has the points lead & aint exactly fading away fast and his back issues are pretty much resolved. He's not gonna just lay over n die for Chase Elliot, as Marci suggested. If anything, Kasey will be gone from HMS before Gordon is.
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Ooooooooooooo that hurt
Although I'd be willing to bet if Kasey was in that same situation instead of this...
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That pic. Fontana, 2013. A good day for Kyle.
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I don't see Jeff's comments as "joking." There was a recent report that he was seriously considering retirement possibly as of NOW because of his back. He has said right out that if it keeps bothering him he's done. Pluse he has all the family stuff going on. Remeeber, I am not saying he will do it for sure. All I am saying is it's possible. My opinion is that if he DOES NOT retire by the end of 2015 and decided to give it one more year then Chase SHOULD stay in NNS and they shoudl not kick Kasey to the curb because of an off year.
Oh...and BTW Chase is not in high school and his coming up with have little to do with paying dues...he has a big name sponsar and they will have some say. I just don't see that fitting with the 5 now that Farmer's has signed on as the primary through 2017 and Farmer's obviously likes Kasey. They came on board with him and have re signed while he is in the car. That has to have soemthing to do with it.
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Yeah...anything is possible....I just have a hard time believeing that Kasey has nothing to do with it when they came on board the 5 with him too.