Kasey Kahne

ChexOrWrex said:
My statement was pure sarcasm in relation to a thread that was created at the beginning of the season that rivals the idiocracy of this one. But if you feel the need to "be right" on the internet lol I'll let you have it.
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That really makes no sense but whatever......I am soooooooooo greatful that you are going to "let" me be right. LMFAO!
 
Kiante said:
He never cared. Always had Daddy's money.
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Yep, another example of a driver who does not have to worry about losing a ride because his name brings the money (in this case sponsor) regardless. I wonder if he and Jr hang out together and luagh about all the other drivers who have to worry about their performance.
 
ramfan9 said:
Yep, another example of a driver who does not have to worry about losing a ride because his name brings the money (in this case sponsor) regardless. I wonder if he and Jr hang out together and luagh about all the other drivers who have to worry about their performance.
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No, I was actually being sarcastic.

Both Menard and Jr earned their places. Yes, they have money. The results the have back up those cases as well. I'm not the biggest on Khane at all, but I think he's a darn good driver if the focus was on him in terms of R&D. With all four Hendrick guys being championship caliber drivers, it makes a difference with R&D being split. Consider his formers teammates in a Jeremy Mayfield, Scott Riggs, Elliot Sadler, and Brian Vickers... All solid drivers, but I think Kahne would best them all... In equal equipment with Vickers... I'm not so sure, Red Bull did not give a damn about the Nascar program after they started focusing on F1 more and other series.
 
Kiante said:
No, I was actually being sarcastic.

Both Menard and Jr earned their places. Yes, they have money. The results the have back up those cases as well. I'm not the biggest on Khane at all, but I think he's a darn good driver if the focus was on him in terms of R&D. With all four Hendrick guys being championship caliber drivers, it makes a difference with R&D being split. Consider his formers teammates in a Jeremy Mayfield, Scott Riggs, Elliot Sadler, and Brian Vickers... All solid drivers, but I think Kahne would best them all... In equal equipment with Vickers... I'm not so sure, Red Bull did not give a damn about the Nascar program after they started focusing on F1 more and other series.
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I agree that Jr earned his place one upon a time but my point is that he does not have to continue to earn it. The name will keep him in the ride regardless and that has already been proven since he has only won 3 races with HMS and Kasey has won 4 in less then a third of the time and his ride is preceived to be in danger. I don't know about Menard though....I have never really seen him do much and it just seems like too much of a coincidence to me that his family is sponsoring the team.....I could be wrong though. Just calling it as it appears to the naked eye.
 
ramfan9 said:
I'll be the typo Nazi now....it's Marcos....and I'll just ask also....does no one care if they aren't throwing punches?
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There's actually a kid I hang out with named Marcus Ambrose. So forgive me since I see his name every other day & misspell the driver's name.

You really don't understand the humor in this forum yet. Even another poster had to explain that he was being sarcastic after you went off on him. It's just the internet man. Slow yer horses

Personally, I think Menard is an awesome driver. Maybe a little personality adjustment to fit in with the cameras but if he were to get from under the RCR title where all the money goes towards the rookie, Paul could do some damage.
 
ChexOrWrex said:
There's actually a kid I hang out with named Marcus Ambrose. So forgive me since I see his name every other day & misspell the driver's name.

You really don't understand the humor in this forum yet. Even another poster had to explain that he was being sarcastic after you went off on him. It's just the internet man. Slow yer horses

Personally, I think Menard is an awesome driver. Maybe a little personality adjustment to fit in with the cameras but if he were to get from under the RCR title where all the money goes towards the rookie, Paul could do some damage.
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I have not "gone off" on anyone. My "horses" are just casually walking. You'll know when I go off. As for Menard. I am not saying he is a "bad" driver as I think all of them have to be good to a certain degree before making it to this level but he just does not seem to do anything spectacualr and it's a big deal if he gets a top 5. The Indy win was fuel mileage. He might do better elswhere but we will probably never know.
 
Menard IMO is a Reed Sorenson Landon Cassill type driver with a life time sponsor to get him in good equipment. Nothing more nothing less. Has he ever even had another sponsor? I doubt it... there's a reason for that.
 
SlicedBread22 said:
Menard IMO is a Reed Sorenson Landon Cassill type driver with a life time sponsor to get him in good equipment. Nothing more nothing less. Has he ever even had another sponsor? I doubt it... there's a reason for that.
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I agree with that. He is in good equipment and has done little with it and you never hear about his ride being in danger.....there has to be a reason for that.
 
SlicedBread22 said:
Menard IMO is a Reed Sorenson Landon Cassill type driver with a life time sponsor to get him in good equipment. Nothing more nothing less. Has he ever even had another sponsor? I doubt it... there's a reason for that.
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Besides from having 3 top 10s and 1 top 5 this year with a 19th place average finish all year? He's come along way from finishing in the 30s every race. I'd consider him a dark horse to make the chase this year. Far from being a Cassil or Sorenson type. He's doing exceptional on 1.5s this year and if he stole a win I would not be surprised.

And if your family offered to give you a permanent sponsor on your race car, you'd take it too. You're advertising your family name and business. Only a shmoe without family values wouldnt do that.
 
ChexOrWrex said:
Besides from having 3 top 10s and 1 top 5 this year with a 19th place average finish all year? He's come along way from finishing in the 30s every race. I'd consider him a dark horse to make the chase this year. Far from being a Cassil or Sorenson type. He's doing exceptional on 1.5s this year and if he stole a win I would not be surprised.

And if your family offered to give you a permanent sponsor on your race car, you'd take it too. You're advertising your family name and business. Only a shmoe without family values wouldnt do that.
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Those numbers are OK but still not great for a driver as seasoned as Menard. Also, EVERYONE is a dark horse to make the chase in this format. Kasey Kahne's 2013 season is a perfect example of that. He had a slow start last year (kind of like this year except last year was more associated to bad luck and this year their performance has a little more to do with it) and he was borderline to make the chase right until the end. If he wins 2 races by June this year there will be nothing borderline about it.
 
This is not really the way to come into a board.

55 posts and all of them are defending Kasey's prowess on the track.

No one is going to take you seriously after this hard white knighting.
 
reck said:
This is not really the way to come into a board.

55 posts and all of them are defending Kasey's prowess on the track.

No one is going to take you seriously after this hard white knighting.
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You've been 'white knighting' Gordon just as bad, so what's the diff?

How long do you have to be here before you can speak your mind?
 
reck said:
This is not really the way to come into a board.

55 posts and all of them are defending Kasey's prowess on the track.

No one is going to take you seriously after this hard white knighting.
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Gee...I am not sure I will be able to sleep tonight if you don't take me seriously. Also, newsflash for you. It's a free country and internet and I have the right to post 500 posts defending Kasey if I choose and if you don't don't like it then don't read/respond. And if you think I am defending Kasey in EVERY post then you still need to work on that reading comprehension reckie. I am glad you are here though. It was really helpful when you posted Kasey, Jr and Gordon's numbers to PROVE my point that Kasey's numbers are on par with their's since he got to HMS......although somehow you thought that was helping your argument that he's overrated. I find it beyond ironic that you would use Dale Jr in an argument to try to prove a another driver is overrated since Dale Jr is the DEFINITION of overrated. I know there's nothing you can say to discredit the numbers I put up but I do look forward to your "didn't read" post.
 
mreed said:
You've been 'white knighting' Gordon just as bad, so what's the diff?

How long do you have to be here before you can speak your mind?
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The difference is I dont spend all my time here talking about the same thing over and over again and talk about how my driver is only second to Jimmie, as if that were true.

And there is also a difference, pointing out stats which accurarely demostrates how driver A is not soooo better as pointed out by a poster than driver B.

If you cared to go back you'll see I've also stood up for Jr. and even said in this very thread that Kahne is good but let's not get carried away here with crowning him second best on that whole organization. Not even close.
 
ramfan9 said:
Gee...I am not sure I will be able to sleep tonight if you don't take me seriously. Also, newsflash for you. It's a free country and internet and I have the right to post 500 posts defending Kasey if I choose and if you don't don't like it then don't read/respond. And if you think I am defending Kasey in EVERY post then you still need to work on that reading comprehension reckie. I am glad you are here though. It was really helpful when you posted Kasey, Jr and Gordon's numbers to PROVE my point that Kasey's numbers are on par with their's since he got to HMS......although somehow you thought that was helping your argument that he's overrated. I find it beyond ironic that you would use Dale Jr in an argument to try to prove a another driver is overrated since Dale Jr is the DEFINITION of overrated. I know there's nothing you can say to discredit the numbers I put up but I do look forward to your "didn't read" post.
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Didn't read but the few sentences at the beginning.

Let me just say, you can post till you're blue in the face. I never said you couldn't post your drivel. You can.

Only said posting nonsense is not going to give you the benefit of the doubt.

I speak for myself but when you post essays, I just tend to skip over them. Just me.
 
reck said:
The difference is I dont spend all my time here talking about the same thing over and over again and talk about how my driver is only second to Jimmie, as if that were true.

And there is also a difference, pointing out stats which accurarely demostrates how driver A is not soooo better as pointed out by a poster than driver B.

If you cared to go back you'll see I've also stood up for Jr. and even said in this very thread that Kahne is good but let's not get carried away here with crowning him second best on that whole organization. Not even close.
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Oh I get it now.....you are threatened at the very idea of anyone suggesting that Kasey is better than Gordon. Pretty sad that you are that insecure about your driver's accomplishments and place in the sport . I am a Kahne fan but even I can't even try to put his accomplishments in NASCAR against Gordon's. I get it though. He's at the end of his career and it's hard as a fan to admit the end is near. I went through that with Bill Elliott.....Ironically I HATED Kasey when he first took over for Bill but grew to like him.

Also, I have not spent all my time taking about the same things but there again is the reading comprehension issue.
 
lol, aww that's so cute. I'm threatened about Kasey.

You can come back with that weak comeback when he wins even one 'ship and half Gordon's wins.

Till then, I'll just twiddle my mustache.
 
ramfan9 said:
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Oh I get it now.....you are threatened at the very idea of anyone suggesting that Kasey is better than Gordon. Pretty sad that you are that insecure about your driver's accomplishments and place in the sport . I am a Kahne fan but even I can't even try to put his accomplishments in NASCAR against Gordon's. I get it though. He's at the end of his career and it's hard as a fan to admit the end is near. I went through that with Bill Elliott.....Ironically I HATED Kasey when he first took over for Bill but grew to like him.

Also, I have not spent all my time taking about the same things but there again is the reading comprehension issue.
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I think its more the way u go about it.

reck said:
I speak for myself but when you post essays, I just tend to skip over them. Just me.
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This^
 
reck said:
lol, aww that's so cute. I'm threatened about Kasey.

You can come back with that weak comeback when he wins even one 'ship and half Gordon's wins.

Till then, I'll just twiddle my mustache.
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Wow...you still can't read..I never said you were threatened by Kasey...I said you were threatened by the suggestion.....also I am sure you will be "twiddling" something but it won't be your mustache.
 
mreed said:
At least he doesn't flood the board with Kahne posts and threads like some other overzealous fan does.

#pot/kettle/black
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See post #262 lol

Not to mention I would think there's a few people around here who would probably agree I might be on to something rootin for that Logano guy this whole time.
 
SlicedBread22 said:
See post #262 lol

Not to mention I would think there's a few people around here who would probably agree I might be on to something rootin for that Logano guy this whole time.
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With that logic every thread and post here should be about Jimmie Johnson.
 
BobbyFord said:
FWIW, if you click here...> http://www.jayski.com/news/stats/story/_/page/NASCAR-Sprint-Cup-Series-Active-Winners and look in the win percentage category it pretty much takes all of the argument out of who is better than whom. The win percentage category is how many wins you have in how many starts. Math does not lie.
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That being said... check some numbers comparing Joey at JGR compared to Penske. He just evened out the top 5 total at each team with that win.. and (if u don't count the rain win, which I prefer not to) tripled his win total. So the numbers don't always tell the story.
 
SlicedBread22 said:
That being said... check some numbers comparing Joey at JGR compared to Penske. He just evened out the top 5 total at each team with that win.. and (if u don't count the rain win, which I prefer not to) tripled his win total. So the numbers don't always tell the story.
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Um...don't even attempt to twist the math. Win percentage man, win percentage.
 
SlicedBread22 said:
o_O

Has Kasey even finished ahead of Logano at all this year? LOL

*ramfan9 runs to nascar.com to find out which races Joey had mechanical issues* :rolleyes:
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People still uses NASCAR.COM as a reference for anything? Haven't been there in years.

Jayski and racing reference is about all you need. ;)
 
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