- Sep 23, 2018
I'm with you. I tend lean more traditionalists but the Winston/AKA All star race has outlived its purpose. Likewise the pro bowl in football and the all star game in basketball.I don't have a problem with that. I'll go him one further and suggest dropping the All-Star too.
I've always had a problem with the so-called All-Star race. What's 'All-Star' about it? It's the same drivers who face each other every week, in a format we'd scream about if the race counted. Taking the points away doesn't make it any more palatable, only more pointless (literally).I'm with you. I tend lean more traditionalists but the Winston/AKA All star race has outlived its purpose. Likewise the pro bowl in football and the all star game in basketball.
I almost thin think the All-Star race takes away from the 600 at this point. The track should but put all their eggs in one basket with the 600 race weekend.
I think you're correct and that neither preliminary exhibition event (All-Star Race and Clash) builds anticipation for the main event anymore.I almost thin think the All-Star race takes away from the 600 at this point. The track should but put all their eggs in one basket with the 600 race weekend.
Unless a title sponsor were found to put up an absurd winning purse like $5 million, you're not going to recreate the financial incentive that had drivers taking crazy chances and everyone feeling the heat as when they were racing for $200,000 in the late '80s and early '90s.I call for teams to stop using expendable races as testing sessions and actually go balls to the wall for the prize. That being said, the purses for these races need to be taken up a few notches. The entire idea of non-points paying races is to see drivers take more risks because there are no negative consequences. It’s an exciting event that should draw crowds that may not be able to make it for a full race. Now it’s just a hyped happy hour.
I'm glad people could decipher what I typed. I should not post from my phone....lol.I would rather see the teams have a week off to enjoy some R&R. If that wouldn’t work have a points paying race or do something fun like have a big demo derby
There used to be real buzz around the ASR and you are right about some of the cool paint schemes. For me it was must see TV along with my buddies and we watched a lot of them together. You knew that if a driver had a car that could win or even one that was good they would be going for it.I'm glad people could decipher what I typed. I should not post from my phone....lol.
I'd be content with an additional week off. Bottom line, the 600's past, present and future must be preserved. The All-Star race's value now and moving forward does not. I remember 1992 and the "One Hot Night" theme. I remember some cool paint schemes back in the day. Otherwise, it never truly ended up being what NASCAR and Winston envisioned it to be in the late 80's, early 90's. Its quality/importance started to fizzle out long before the NASCAR boom did.
The All-Star race has to be the dumbest all-star event in sports, even worse than the Pro Bowl. It’s called the “All-Star Race”, but actually has fewer stars participating in it than a regular race.I've always had a problem with the so-called All-Star race. What's 'All-Star' about it? It's the same drivers who face each other every week, in a format we'd scream about if the race counted. Taking the points away doesn't make it any more palatable, only more pointless (literally).
Winston and Bud are gone. Bury these legacies. Does any other major series run exhibition races?
wasn't hard to find, here ya gowill someone please tell me how the 6 car was in the race.
I my opinion, it has TOO MANY stars in it. The race started out as a race for winners from the last calendar year., and that's what it should return to. If that means only tens cars, so be it. if you want to throw in ONE wildcard, I could probably go for that, but no fan vote, no former champions, no former All Star races winners etc, etc. etc.The All-Star race has to be the dumbest all-star event in sports, even worse than the Pro Bowl. It’s called the “All-Star Race”, but actually has fewer stars participating in it than a regular race.
And we come to the root of why these events will continue: lining the pockets of SMI and ISC, and a sanctioning body more concerned with the profitability of that duopoly than the welfare of the sport or the teams.I'm sure Nascar, Daytona Speedway and Advance Auto Parts will jump right on that.
Then run the clash right after qualifying with different cars. Might be interesting if Nascar would allow any cheating to be acceptable for this race. I would love to see what the CC's can come up with.Either get rid of both races OR use both races solely as a testing session for potential future rules packages. The 2018 All-Star race was a prime example of testing the waters, and I would be in favor of seeing something similar (in terms of experimentation) for it and the Clash in the future.
If both races must stay and my previous points will not occur, then my hope is NASCAR will harken back to their roots and make both races feel special. No more of this "everyone can participate" crap. Make it small fields solely designated for drivers who earned their spot in the respective race. For All-Star, only race winners within past 365 days of current All-Star race, most recent All-Star winner, most recent Cup champion, and winner of The Open should participate. For The Clash, only pole winners of previous season. KEEP. IT. SIMPLE.
They can get rid of them too as far as I’m concerned. They used to provide some drama as a full-time team could potentially miss the field for the 500 if they did poorly in the Duels/125’s, but they’re not really necessary anymore with the charter system in place and with fewer entries than in the past.So, if we are going to dump the Clash and the All Star Race, why aren't we talking about the Duels? Locked in on a plate track does not produce good racing IMO--whatever that is. Frankly, I do think you need to have something leading up to the sport's greatest race. We love the feeling of one minute winter, and the next minute the biggest race of the season. The target demographic--which I'm not sure NASCAR cares about anymore--needs some lead up IMO.
I completely agree....not suggesting getting rid of anything, but if the All Star and The Clash are considered to be on the block, you have to look at The Duels as the purpose for those races has changed or no longer exists. Either go with single car qualifying, or set the entire field with The Duels IMO.. Looking at it without the duels, they just out of clean air start their most popular race and have the Daytona 500 without anything leading up to it? Eh they have to have something before it I would think.
I agree. He just wants to extend his vacay another 3 or 4 days prob.Kevin Harvick needs to shut his mouth, if he doesn’t want to race he doesn’t have to.
I am curious, why do the teams need additional time for rest? You are not the only person that mentioned this. Many people I know are lucky to get a two week paid vacation. My neighbor has worked six days a week for the past three years. Just trying to understand this.I wouldn’t be opposed to both the Clash and All Star Race going away, many other traditions of the sport have been squandered away, why not these two races. I would think if you’re looking to cut races, we can start there and move forward. Opens up two additional weeks of the rest for the teams/crew members and drivers have a longer off season by a few days.