NASCAR announces 2019 MENCS rules

Discussion in 'NASCAR chat' started by FLRacingFan, Oct 2, 2018.

  1. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    https://www.nascar.com/news-media/2018/10/02/2019-rules-packages-announced-monster-energy-series/
     
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  2. Some will be doom and gloom with this package, but I for one will see how it works before basing a opinion on it.
     
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  3. Mispeedway15

    Mispeedway15 Team Owner

    I’m actually not opposed to this. While I love the almost sprint car type of racing we see today with high HP and low downforce, this is going to be more old school stock car racing.

    It shouldn’t force pack racing at all and will benefit the best defensive drivers. Also tire wear should be much more prominent
     
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  4. tclarson

    tclarson Jackman

    I wonder if this will make it harder or easier for Mustang transition? My guess is easier since it’s a drafting package and everyone also has to throw their notes out for the most part. Good timing for them.
     
  5. KTMLew01

    KTMLew01 Team Owner

    BRING BACK BILL ELLIOTT!:dual9mm::partytime:pbjtime:
     
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  6. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    One little "experiment" became 13 races became 22 races. Exactly the type of rules creep NASCAR has shown before but we were supposed to believe otherwise. :idunno:

    Not sure how Steve reconciles "putting it back in the drivers' hands" with -200 HP and "adding downforce to stabilize handling". Seems counterintuitive to me.

    Especially sucks that Atlanta, Darlington, and Homestead will get the lowest HP.
     
  7. ChexOrWrex

    ChexOrWrex Ya gotta wanna

    NASCAR posted this to social media using the Fusion body. :owquitit:

    Looks like just as much thought went into the actual racing package as well.
     
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  8. ChexOrWrex

    ChexOrWrex Ya gotta wanna

    Daytona and Dega wont have plates. Thats how slow they’ve gotten the cars to be. Fuggin joke.

    I don’t see how the drivers who enjoy the challenge of being on the edge and the adrenaline of holding to the floor and seeing Jesus are excited for this bullsnot.
     
  9. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    big ? is with the changes to the radiator width, what will that do to all of them. I know the changes they made last year to the radiator, splitter and oil cooler radiator, tightened up the competition. This could help the Chevys.
     
  10. DUN24

    DUN24 Skeptical of the Spectacle


    ...And we were called names for assuming such.


    What a load of bull**** this is. Reducing power, stabilizing handling, and installing sails to keep them bunched together. It is kind of shocking even by NASCAR's standards.

    I'm curious why they aren't running their holes in the bumper at Pocono, people cry about how boring that race is, you'd think they would be all about product manipulation there.

    Pretty depressed about what will happen to racing at Darlington and ACS..
     
  11. Kiante

    Kiante Team Owner

    I don't know, I'm reserving my judgement until I see it.

    Looks like the manufacturers have been chomping at the bit for sometime. This package might be good, it might be meh, or it might be a disaster. I'm not sold on it after watching the all-star race, it was okay, but I'm used to NASCAR throwing darts at the target to see of they stick.

    Just more reason to look forward to Gen 7.
     
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  12. DUN24

    DUN24 Skeptical of the Spectacle

    Praying that they feel like the gen 7 is a legit race car that needs no molestation.
     
  13. Formerjackman

    Formerjackman Team Owner

  14. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

  15. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    Here are three rules that have flown under the radar for next year. Is that a common chassis?
    Other rules announced Tuesday to take effect in 2019:

    The previously announced enhanced vehicle chassis (EVC) will be mandatory at all races.

    NASCAR has reduced the amount of organizational tests for the calendar year from four to three. Additionally, Goodyear tire tests in 2019 will be conducted by three teams, down from the current four.

    NASCAR will expand the use of sealed engines next season, increasing to three long block seals in addition to keeping the current 13-race short block seal requirement.
     
  16. sdj

    sdj Just a race fan

    Man what a relief, still, no MUFFLERS!!!! :D (The rest of it, to early to tell, need to see it race)

    Might as well dust off the Super Late Models and race, from the way I read it.


     
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  17. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    I do think that is a common chassis that has adjustability built into it. I heard something about that on one of the Nascar shows.
     
  18. AdoubleU24

    AdoubleU24 Team Owner

    So are they going to race like the all star race at 165mph or nah? Cause if they do I'm not interested.
     
  19. ChexOrWrex

    ChexOrWrex Ya gotta wanna

    Weve already seen it in the Xfinity series and Cup. My judgement has been met.
     
  20. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

  21. SpeedPagan

    SpeedPagan The iRacing Guru

    Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that the 2019 Rules were the one they showcased at this year's All Star Race.
     
  22. LewTheShoe

    LewTheShoe Team Owner

    Indeed. This is a disaster to Nascar as a sport of skill. Nascar has been approaching a "Golden Era Of Skill-Based Racing" in the last two years, as good as Nascar racing has ever been. We still needed to get rid of side force, but that was the last remaining aero hurdle for Nascar.

    Evidently, Nascar feels there are not enough fans who appreciate skill-based racing... and more casual fans want constant passing and constant wrecking for "entertainment"... slower cars passing faster cars then getting passed again means good racing to some. Well, f**k that! What entertains me is a contest of driving skill... the harder it is, the better I like it. I'm really, really pissed off about this.
     
  23. LewTheShoe

    LewTheShoe Team Owner

    I don't know what you heard, but the rules press release says nothing at all about a spec chassis. There was a rule made ~2 years ago mandating stronger footwell construction, IIRC. It was phased in, at first only required at plate tracks, then everywhere at a later date. This was done to avoid obsoleting the entire industry fleet overnight. I think this is what they are talking about.
     
  24. kkfan91

    kkfan91 Taking a 10-200

    I'll wait until actually racing because most of you have an amazing track record of being wrong. Seriously eat a Snickers
     
  25. Mopardh9

    Mopardh9 Team Owner Contributor

    How do you figure no pack racing?
     
  26. Mopardh9

    Mopardh9 Team Owner Contributor

    Agreed, it takes away from the skill of the driver, this is just another weak band aid attempt to address a long standing issue.
     
  27. dpkimmel2001

    dpkimmel2001 Team Owner

  28. FearThe4

    FearThe4 Team Owner

    best thing Nascar has done in years this should get some fans back to the track since everyone loved the all star race and wanted this package at all the mile and half tracks.
     
  29. Mopardh9

    Mopardh9 Team Owner Contributor

    Been saying this for years, yet some here think switching engines is going to be too costly, how can this be true when those said engines are readily available at a decent price?
     
  30. Mopardh9

    Mopardh9 Team Owner Contributor

    Lmao...no it will be the opposite.
     
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  31. Mispeedway15

    Mispeedway15 Team Owner

    There will still be throttle response as well as certain cars being faster. At Charlotte we saw 400 HP, here we’re gonna see 550 HP which will allow for a lot more getup. It’s going to be essentially Indycar type racing on ovals
     
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  32. Mopardh9

    Mopardh9 Team Owner Contributor

    Spec racing
     
  33. ChexOrWrex

    ChexOrWrex Ya gotta wanna

    Except its already been showcased.
     
  34. Mopardh9

    Mopardh9 Team Owner Contributor

    With everyone the same, no, it will be like plate racing.
     
  35. TexasRaceLady

    TexasRaceLady Plank Owner Contributor

    I, for one, am not going to get all hot and lathered up one way or the other until I see what happens next year.
    It may turn out to be great, it may turn out to be a flop. I'm just going to wait and see.
     
  36. Mopardh9

    Mopardh9 Team Owner Contributor

    We already saw it, it wasn't impressive.
     
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  37. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    no it really hasn't
     
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  38. ChexOrWrex

    ChexOrWrex Ya gotta wanna

    Not really. We will only see passing when there is help, instead of having a better feel for the handling and throttle control.
     
  39. Mopardh9

    Mopardh9 Team Owner Contributor

    Another tire cutter splitter
     
  40. Mopardh9

    Mopardh9 Team Owner Contributor

    Pretty much...why do you support spec racing?
     

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