Discussion in 'NASCAR chat' started by FLRacingFan, Oct 2, 2018.
Some will be doom and gloom with this package, but I for one will see how it works before basing a opinion on it.
I’m actually not opposed to this. While I love the almost sprint car type of racing we see today with high HP and low downforce, this is going to be more old school stock car racing.
It shouldn’t force pack racing at all and will benefit the best defensive drivers. Also tire wear should be much more prominent
I wonder if this will make it harder or easier for Mustang transition? My guess is easier since it’s a drafting package and everyone also has to throw their notes out for the most part. Good timing for them.
BRING BACK BILL ELLIOTT!
One little "experiment" became 13 races became 22 races. Exactly the type of rules creep NASCAR has shown before but we were supposed to believe otherwise.
Not sure how Steve reconciles "putting it back in the drivers' hands" with -200 HP and "adding downforce to stabilize handling". Seems counterintuitive to me.
Especially sucks that Atlanta, Darlington, and Homestead will get the lowest HP.
NASCAR posted this to social media using the Fusion body.
Looks like just as much thought went into the actual racing package as well.
Daytona and Dega wont have plates. Thats how slow they’ve gotten the cars to be. Fuggin joke.
I don’t see how the drivers who enjoy the challenge of being on the edge and the adrenaline of holding to the floor and seeing Jesus are excited for this bullsnot.
big ? is with the changes to the radiator width, what will that do to all of them. I know the changes they made last year to the radiator, splitter and oil cooler radiator, tightened up the competition. This could help the Chevys.
...And we were called names for assuming such.
What a load of bull**** this is. Reducing power, stabilizing handling, and installing sails to keep them bunched together. It is kind of shocking even by NASCAR's standards.
I'm curious why they aren't running their holes in the bumper at Pocono, people cry about how boring that race is, you'd think they would be all about product manipulation there.
Pretty depressed about what will happen to racing at Darlington and ACS..
I don't know, I'm reserving my judgement until I see it.
Looks like the manufacturers have been chomping at the bit for sometime. This package might be good, it might be meh, or it might be a disaster. I'm not sold on it after watching the all-star race, it was okay, but I'm used to NASCAR throwing darts at the target to see of they stick.
Just more reason to look forward to Gen 7.
Praying that they feel like the gen 7 is a legit race car that needs no molestation.
If the target goal is 550 HP, then there isn't much of ANY reason to continue with the non-production race only engines. 550 HP falls easily into the wheelhouse of the production based engines used in IMSA, and those engines have the proven reliability to run 24 hours too.
Here is the Nascar link for those who don't want to go to Facebook.
Here are three rules that have flown under the radar for next year. Is that a common chassis?
Other rules announced Tuesday to take effect in 2019:
• The previously announced enhanced vehicle chassis (EVC) will be mandatory at all races.
• NASCAR has reduced the amount of organizational tests for the calendar year from four to three. Additionally, Goodyear tire tests in 2019 will be conducted by three teams, down from the current four.
• NASCAR will expand the use of sealed engines next season, increasing to three long block seals in addition to keeping the current 13-race short block seal requirement.
Man what a relief, still, no MUFFLERS!!!! (The rest of it, to early to tell, need to see it race)
Might as well dust off the Super Late Models and race, from the way I read it.
I do think that is a common chassis that has adjustability built into it. I heard something about that on one of the Nascar shows.
So are they going to race like the all star race at 165mph or nah? Cause if they do I'm not interested.
Weve already seen it in the Xfinity series and Cup. My judgement has been met.
I guess this is tomorrow at Phoenix?
Three confirmation tire tests are scheduled for the 2019 NASCAR rules package before the end of the year — one-day tests at Charlotte and Atlanta, and a two-day test at Las Vegas. Teams will also get a taste of next year’s package at a test at ISM Raceway on Wednesday, using the baseline rules changes (no smaller spacer, no aero ducts).
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that the 2019 Rules were the one they showcased at this year's All Star Race.
Indeed. This is a disaster to Nascar as a sport of skill. Nascar has been approaching a "Golden Era Of Skill-Based Racing" in the last two years, as good as Nascar racing has ever been. We still needed to get rid of side force, but that was the last remaining aero hurdle for Nascar.
Evidently, Nascar feels there are not enough fans who appreciate skill-based racing... and more casual fans want constant passing and constant wrecking for "entertainment"... slower cars passing faster cars then getting passed again means good racing to some. Well, f**k that! What entertains me is a contest of driving skill... the harder it is, the better I like it. I'm really, really pissed off about this.
I don't know what you heard, but the rules press release says nothing at all about a spec chassis. There was a rule made ~2 years ago mandating stronger footwell construction, IIRC. It was phased in, at first only required at plate tracks, then everywhere at a later date. This was done to avoid obsoleting the entire industry fleet overnight. I think this is what they are talking about.
I'll wait until actually racing because most of you have an amazing track record of being wrong. Seriously eat a Snickers
How do you figure no pack racing?
Agreed, it takes away from the skill of the driver, this is just another weak band aid attempt to address a long standing issue.
best thing Nascar has done in years this should get some fans back to the track since everyone loved the all star race and wanted this package at all the mile and half tracks.
Been saying this for years, yet some here think switching engines is going to be too costly, how can this be true when those said engines are readily available at a decent price?
Lmao...no it will be the opposite.
There will still be throttle response as well as certain cars being faster. At Charlotte we saw 400 HP, here we’re gonna see 550 HP which will allow for a lot more getup. It’s going to be essentially Indycar type racing on ovals
Except its already been showcased.
With everyone the same, no, it will be like plate racing.
I, for one, am not going to get all hot and lathered up one way or the other until I see what happens next year.
It may turn out to be great, it may turn out to be a flop. I'm just going to wait and see.
We already saw it, it wasn't impressive.
no it really hasn't
Not really. We will only see passing when there is help, instead of having a better feel for the handling and throttle control.
Another tire cutter splitter
Pretty much...why do you support spec racing?
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