Every square inch of the US is blacked out for someone. Even Hawaii has blackouts.
It’s driven by the RSNs. If MLB could, they would funnel people to their own service.
Some more ratings & demo info. What stands out to me is the 18.4% percent decline in non-Chase Elliott races. Another thing that stuck out to me was the really low demo in the 18-49 group for the championship race. There have been some other instances like this in the playoffs and maybe that is the NFL siphoning off younger viewers in general.
Some more ratings & demo info. What stands out to me is the 18.4% percent decline in non-Chase Elliott races. Another thing that stuck out to me was the really low demo in the 18-49 group for the championship race. There have been some other instances like this in the playoffs and maybe that is the NFL siphoning off younger viewers in general.
According to Austin Konenski the 36 races in 2022 were down 3.7% & the 38 races (Clash/ASR) were down 4.3% - Non-Chase Elliott races: Down 18.4%. FOX & FS1 down 14.2% - 29 of the 38 Cup weekends were down in viewership.
TV News: USA Weekend Motorsports TV Ratings
USA TV Ratings for the NASCAR TV broadcasts from Phoenix this past weekend as well as the Sao Paulo GP Formula 1 race in Brazil.www.autoracing1.com
TV Ratings Analysis
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NBC drew 2.92 million viewers for the NASCAR Cup Championship race at Phoenix Sunday, down 9.12% from 2022 also on NBC.
The all important 18-49 age group viewers was a miserable 14%, down 27.57% from 2022
The NASCAR Xfinity finale from Phoenix on Saturday and the Truck finale on Friday had similar results.
What do you think is the problem, and what do you think is the solution?
It would be a huge benefit to the sport if Hailie Deegan shows significant progress/improvement in the Xfinity cars.
Unless Toni Breidinger surpasses expectations in Trucks, we’re well over a half-decade from that conversation.What would be better would be if NASCAR could find a few female drivers that have the talent to win races in cup.
Not going to happen. Breidinger isn't a woman super star. She will do ok. IF she can make it to trucks, but being in the Toyota fold, the path is pretty much blocked.Unless Toni Breidinger surpasses expectations in Trucks, we’re well over a half-decade from that conversation.
I notice the lowest 'over the air' network broadcasts (Fox / NBC) were almost all higher than the highest 'cable only' network show (FS1 / USA).
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I notice the lowest 'over the air' network broadcasts (Fox / NBC) was almost higher than the highest 'cable only' network show (FS1 / USA).
Ask the people who aren't tuning in.What do you think is the problem, and what do you think is the solution?
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I notice the lowest 'over the air' network broadcasts (Fox / NBC) was almost higher than the highest 'cable only' network show (FS1 / USA).
How about you? Do you have any thoughts on this?
Cage match!Obviously the reason the Daytona 500 does so well is because it's marketed as 'The Super Bowl of Racing!'
So name all the races after other sports' championships. The West Coast sweep could be 'The March Madness of Racing!'. The 600 in May would be 'The Kentucky Derby of Racing!'. The last stages of the playoffs are 'The World Series of Racing!'.
Yeah, that's the ticket.
I have, REPEATEDLY, and when I tell everyone here what they tell me, I get branded as a troll and a hater. In fact, I seldom have to ask them. Once they find I still watch NASCAR every week, they usually CAN'T WAIT to tell me why they no longer watch.Ask the people who aren't tuning in.
It's all about OTA (broadcast) and OTT (streaming) now.
That, or they can't pick anything up with an antenna where they live. Which is my current problem. But when I lived in St. Charles, I could pick up 70 channels with an antenna, and picked up over 30 when I lived in Kenly.Except Gen Z seems to have no idea how to operate an antenna. Go to Reddit or Twitter and you'll see a lot of people bitching because they "can't stream" events like the World Series and Super Bowl, despite these events being on free OTA television.
That, or they can't pick anything up with an antenna where they live. Which is my current problem. But when I lived in St. Charles, I could pick up 70 channels with an antenna, and picked up over 30 when I lived in Kenly.
Every sporting event (except NASCAR) that is shown on NBC is also on Peacock. Same with CBS/Paramount Plus and The CW. Most ABC events are shown on ESPN. The only network that hasn't embraced streaming yet is Fox. Which is another reason it's a bad idea to resign with them.
Fox not embracing streaming is definitely a problem. It was telling when you could stream the NLCS on Max (because it aired on TBS) and you couldn't stream the ALCS anywhere (because it aired on FOX/FS1).
FOX having the rights to so many high level sporting events is definitely a problem.
The irony of it is, they literally have a standalone streaming service for Fox News Channel.
But expanding "Fox Nation" or launching a generic OTT app is not something they can do. They don't have anywhere near enough scripted content ever since the Disney acquisition. And they're so late to the game that even a good service would suffer the same fate as Windows Phone.
The next contract's gonna be brutal for fans. Even if NBC puts every race on Peacock, you're STILL going to have to have cable AND streaming. I'm sure NBC's gonna put some races exclusively on Peacock. Amazon's probably going to get the Summer Series package - and I'm not sure that's worse than TNT getting it because, man, everything WB Discovery touches turns into a very expensive dumpster fire.
Amazon is like $13/month, keeps going up every year, and now they've decided to make that their base plan. Max is, I don't know, it's included free with my phone plan but I think they're hovering at the $25/month mark next year.
I have a feeling this streaming stuff is gonna get regulated at some point. They’re gonna push it and push it with all these rate increases until they break the camel’s back.I wish the cable providers would offer a very basic streaming package that just included your OTA channels, tailored towards those who either can't operate an antenna or can't get the channels in their location. Ideally it'd be free (since those networks are distributed via public airwaves) but that would require FCC intervention of some kind and we know that would never happen because it would hurt the ability of the networks to demand rights fees from cable companies.
I have a feeling this streaming stuff is gonna get regulated at some point. They’re gonna push it and push it with all these rate increases until they break the camel’s back.
I’m getting ready to buy a Blu Ray player.
I still buy DVDs and I encourage others to do the same. If there's something you like, you can't beat owning a physical copy. Anyone who calls DVDs and other physical media "obsolete" is both shortsighted and way too trusting of corporations.
Not the people who tuned out. The people who have never seen a race, on TV or live. What's their perception of motorsports? Nothing thrives just hanging on to an aging audience, especially in entertainment.I have, REPEATEDLY, and when I tell everyone here what they tell me, I get branded as a troll and a hater. In fact, I seldom have to ask them. Once they find I still watch NASCAR every week, they usually CAN'T WAIT to tell me why they no longer watch.
Not the people who tuned out. The people who have never seen a race, on TV or live. What's their perception of motorsports? Nothing thrives just hanging on to an aging audience, especially in entertainment.
I've actually have pretty good luck with converting friends into NASCAR fans. I usually just take them a live race and they fall in love with the sport. That is one reason why I'm in favor of the Coliseum and Chicago Street Race. NASCAR is a sport that is best seen in person.
The point that is often missed though, is those older fans USED to bring a lot of new fans into the fold. They are the ones that actually CREATED the buzz that made NASCAR so popular for a while. Wives, children, relatives, friends, co-workers etc. Their loss has badly short circuited the supply of the next generation of fans. It's not that you CAN'T win over people with no connection to NASCAR, but it's MUCH harder. The response I get from most people that don't watch NASCAR is, "Why would I want to watch cars go around in circles?" Had my Dad not had at least a passing interest in the Indy 500, I may well have never become a racing fan at all. That all started in 1973. Been with it ever since.Not the people who tuned out. The people who have never seen a race, on TV or live. What's their perception of motorsports? Nothing thrives just hanging on to an aging audience, especially in entertainment.
Oh hell yeah here we go lol. Rotate every year lol.
Trucks should go back to their original format. Halfway break. It reduces costs as teams don’t need to hire Cup pit crews for races, don’t need to buy five sets of tires, and so on.View attachment 74036
I do think Trucks and X should be reduced to two stages. When the track length permits, the second stage should longer than a fuel run to make green flag stops a possibility.