Old Chase threads

ted@economy said:
I really like the way Newman is playing this game . Not overdriving or abusing his equipment . Staying out of the wrecks . Doing just what he has to do to advance . In short , he will be your 2014 Nascar Champion . He studied the rules and worked within them .
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Could you say he is just bring consistent? Something those who complain about this chase want. A system that rewards consistency.
 
It's a joke. The sooner Gordon retires the better. I'm done. No wonder viewership is down. Yall have fun watching this non sense.
 
All these people trying to justify the Chase format saying the top four "played by the rules" or "didn't crack under pressure like the others" or trying to compare it to playoffs in stick and ball sports.....SMH.

Gordon scored the most points this year, finished higher than Hamlin and Newman in probably 80% of the races, yet those numbers are completely meaningless in this system....well that's a big problem. Some call it exciting, I call it a crapshoot just like I have all year. Brian France has made the Championship nearly meaningless. All that prestige, all that history, all that glory is gone.

I'm not going to cry about it though. Even though I'm a hardcore Gordon fan and I feel cheated, all I can do now is pull for Newman so the guy with four top 5's all freakin year hopefully wins the title and then nobody can defend this stupid format.
 
Other drivers whom we haven't heard of all year that also has had a better year than Newman...

At least statistically are..

Jamie Mcmurray
AJ Allmendinger
Kyle Larson
Aric Almirola

Even good ol' Clint matched Newman stellar season with more laps leds to boot.
 
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For all you Chase lovers that wanna compare it to stick and ball....they have a 7-game series in baseball, basketball, and hockey to determine who wins each series. Think about that for a minute. The brackets are set up the way they are because it makes the most sense to determine which teams get to advance. The best team doesn't always win, but nobody gets cheated because the teams that deserve to win the most are rewarded appropriately.

But Nascar isn't stick and ball, so it's a moot point. This isn't a head-to-head between two teams. The fact that auto racing would try to use a playoff is a joke in itself. Even worse, the way Nascar's Chase system is set up this year, you might as well throw darts at a board to determine our champion. If this current format is ok with you, then you aren't a true racing fan, simple as that.
 
So Newman is racing for the championship and has led 26 more laps than Danica? Sounds legit.
 
TooSweet said:
For all you Chase lovers that wanna compare it to stick and ball....they have a 7-game series in baseball, basketball, and hockey to determine who wins each series. Think about that for a minute. The brackets are set up the way they are because it makes the most sense to determine which teams get to advance. The best team doesn't always win, but nobody gets cheated because the teams that deserve to win the most are rewarded appropriately.

But Nascar isn't stick and ball, so it's a moot point. This isn't a head-to-head between two teams. The fact that auto racing would try to use a playoff is a joke in itself. Even worse, the way Nascar's Chase system is set up this year, you might as well throw darts at a board to determine our champion. If this current format is ok with you, then you aren't a true racing fan, simple as that.
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You are right, it is a crap shoot, but you know what I blame the drivers. France created a format that should have been to the advantage of the dominant drivers. You guys shouldn't be blaming France or Nascar. Blame the drivers for not stepping up. There should be no reason that Gordon, Brad, Johnson, Kenseth, Busch, or Jr shouldn't be in this round. It was there for them to take, and they let it slip from their hands. So I say shame on them, no one to blame but themselves.
 
TexasRaceLady said:
I have to be OK with it, because nothing I do or say can change it.
I DO consider myself as a true race fan. I choose to watch the race and let the chips fall where they may.
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Yeah, I should rephrase that.....

If you prefer the current format and think it's a legitimate way to determine a champion, you aren't a true racing fan.

They could crown Michael McDowell the champ and I would still watch racing. I wouldn't like it, but I would still watch it.
 
TexasRaceLady said:
I have to be OK with it, because nothing I do or say can change it.
I DO consider myself as a true race fan. I choose to watch the race and let the chips fall where they may.
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Well. You dont have to be ok with it. Maybe, have to live with it because you can do nothing about it but that doesnt mean you have to agree with it ;)
 
Jeffrey00 said:
You are right, it is a crap shoot, but you know what I blame the drivers. France created a format that should have been to the advantage of the dominant drivers. You guys shouldn't be blaming France or Nascar. Blame the drivers for not stepping up. There should be no reason that Gordon, Brad, Johnson, Kenseth, Busch, or Jr shouldn't be in this round. It was there for them to take, and they let it slip from their hands. So I say shame on them, no one to blame but themselves.
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Gordon has every reason to blame Kez. And as much as I like rooting for the underdog, Newman has no place above any of the guys you mentioned.
 
TexasRaceLady said:
They all knew the rules at the beginning of the year. Go, or go home --- very simple.
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Jeffrey00 said:
Yep, and the drivers failed their fans, not Nascar.
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As I've said before, just because they know the rules doesn't make the rules fair to them. NASCAR can make up whatever ****amamie rules they want and the drivers will know them, doesnt make the competition fair though.
 
There is no such thing as controlling your own destiny in Nascar. Not with this Chase format anyway.
 
TexasRaceLady said:
They all knew the rules at the beginning of the year. Go, or go home --- very simple.
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I agree, and your point also renders any argument about who would be Champion under the old system useless--they have raced this year differently as they should.
 
Jeffrey00 said:
You are right, it is a crap shoot, but you know what I blame the drivers. France created a format that should have been to the advantage of the dominant drivers. You guys shouldn't be blaming France or Nascar. Blame the drivers for not stepping up. There should be no reason that Gordon, Brad, Johnson, Kenseth, Busch, or Jr shouldn't be in this round. It was there for them to take, and they let it slip from their hands. So I say shame on them, no one to blame but themselves.
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Again, you know. Gordon did everything right as far as driving near the front and so on.

This wouldn't be a bitch to take if he was say, 5 points out but having it come down to 1 point really stings.

And is not like Baseball or Basketball in NASCAR where you can lobby a complaint and the commissioner has to deal with it and make it right. Here, one guy has the final and only say so these drivers know they dont have that much leverage.
 
TooSweet said:
There is no such thing as controlling your own destiny in Nascar. Not with this Chase format anyway.
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I disagree. If you listened to Hamlin's scanner during this Chase, you would have heard them manufacture the finishes necessary to get to this point. Perfectly managed Chase to this point.
 
Revman said:
I disagree. If you listened to Hamlin's scanner during this Chase, you would have heard them manufacture the finishes necessary to get to this point. Perfectly managed Chase to this point.
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So if some clown accidentally wrecks Hamlin's TRD Toyota late in the race today, he doesn't advance. Should he be punished for someone else's mistake? Something that was completely beyond his control?
 
TooSweet said:
So if some clown accidentally wrecks Hamlin's TRD Toyota late in the race today, he doesn't advance. Should he be punished for someone else's mistake? Something that was completely beyond his control?
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Well in hindsight maybe the drivers that waited until today to get in should have taken care of business earlier. Again, they could have clinched in previous weeks, and they failed. THEY failed.
 
it came down to the fact that the Chase eligible drivers allowed non chase drivers to steal two wins from them this round, and they paid the price for it today.
 
Over a three race span, the guy who arguably performed the best all year (Gordon) gets 2nd, 2nd, and wrecked while competing for a win that he was clearly in position to obtain. Life's not fair, I get it. But try and argue with a straight face that Newman deserves it more.

At the end of the day it is what it is, I just don't understand how anyone can argue that the new format is a legitimate system to determine the rightful champion.
 
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