Road courses?

They need some jumps. A tunnel they have to run through every few laps with fireworks triggered to go off as they go thru. A big ole sprinkler to keep one turn soaked. Kinda sorta aim it at the left side of the cars right at window net height.

Finally, at least one nice, deep, messy sippy hole per facility.
 
I drove a go cart at one of the indoor go cart tracks about 10 years ago and ran that thing for only 20 minutes and my arms were sore for about a week after that, so I can only imagine how hard it would be to drive a road course car all day long in competition.
 
Add another check for more road course racing for me...
 
R Clarence said:
They need some jumps. A tunnel they have to run through every few laps with fireworks triggered to go off as they go thru. A big ole sprinkler to keep one turn soaked. Kinda sorta aim it at the left side of the cars right at window net height.

Finally, at least one nice, deep, messy sippy hole per facility.
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Been a while since I have seen a swamp buggy race.
 
Simple Fan said:
I was simply answering the original post question with a legit answer. I watch all kinds of racing from NASCAR to Indy to F1 to IMSA and what ever else comes on TV. Its a fact the oval racing appeals more to American racing fans than road courses therefore NASCAR is reluctant to add more to the schedule.
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yea? All my car club buddies think NASCAR is full of crap. It's dumb statements like this that keep loosing new NA$CAR fans. You can go to any local road course tracks and find track days sold out but there is no such thing as a club day at a NA$CAR track plus I don't know of a car club that's into NA$CAR.
 
blue92 said:
yea? All my car club buddies think NASCAR is full of crap. It's dumb statements like this that keep loosing new NA$CAR fans. You can go to any local road course tracks and find track days sold out but there is no such thing as a club day at a NA$CAR track plus I don't know of a car club that's into NA$CAR.
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Because your car club buddies represent all of America right. Car clubs aren't spectators they are wannabes. Look Im sorry if you didnt know that American's generally prefer oval racing over road track racing when it comes to being a spectator but it always been that way.
 
blue92 said:
yea? All my car club buddies think NASCAR is full of crap. It's dumb statements like this that keep loosing new NA$CAR fans. You can go to any local road course tracks and find track days sold out but there is no such thing as a club day at a NA$CAR track plus I don't know of a car club that's into NA$CAR.
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My dad went to a Corvette club track day at Talladega. Obviously they didn't allow passing so it's not a competitive event quite like your typical track day, but driving your street car at 160+ on a NASCAR superspeedway still counts for something.

That being said, I've been a member of a local car enthusiast group for 11 years now, and there are only a few other NASCAR fans out of 2,000+ members.
 
I like road courses, I think you get Sonoma and WG sold out because they are the only races for that region and because it is a road racing in NASCAR is a novelty item. I think it needs to stay that way, but I do believe that they should add a road race to the chase schedule. They have every type of track and racing style in the chase, but a road course. It only seems to make sense to me to have one in there. I always get excited for the road courses, but by the end it is a bit of a let down.
 
Johali said:
Nascar has raced road courses since the beginning. The first road course that I attended was at Daytona Beach in I believe 1953 or 54.

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You've actually been to Florida?

Cool.



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Simple Fan said:
Because your car club buddies represent all of America right. Car clubs aren't spectators they are wannabes. Look Im sorry if you didnt know that American's generally prefer oval racing over road track racing when it comes to being a spectator but it always been that way.
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Then you need to keep up with the times.
 
We need road courses, not stadium courses. That's why these proposals won't help anything. NASCAR should know by now, if you are going to race at any track, it should be a first class track, no matter what kind of track it is. Stadium tracks are not first class tracks.
 
Yogisd1 said:
Then you need to keep up with the times.
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I'm up with them dude. You're just in denial I guess. Not sure what else to tell you. Just watch a road course race in America that has nothing to with NASCAR and tell me if the stands are full. Meanwhile dirt ovals across America are full. Times may have changed but this trend hasn't.
 
Nitro Dude said:
I drove a go cart at one of the indoor go cart tracks about 10 years ago and ran that thing for only 20 minutes and my arms were sore for about a week after that, so I can only imagine how hard it would be to drive a road course car all day long in competition.
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u drove it wrong, hop rear wheel on curb in corner = less steering input to turn, karts usually push like dump trucks, i got banned from malibu racing doing this, they said i break their cars, hell i even got kicked off bumper cars at the fall fair for being too ruff.,
 
Instead of turning charlotte/Indy into a road race, why not turn Bristol into dirt track for one of its races?
 
Simple Fan said:
Because your car club buddies represent all of America right. Car clubs aren't spectators they are wannabes. Look Im sorry if you didnt know that American's generally prefer oval racing over road track racing when it comes to being a spectator but it always been that way.
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Really? So it's just a myth that NA$CAR is worried about the loss of fans in their sport? or how to attract new fans? Road courses are popular because it's closer to driving on the highway. Never drove down a road that's an oval. BTW you have your car clubs mixed up with those car clubs that spit and polish their cars then park them away in their garages. The clubs I'm in drive their cars, do road courses, go to the drags, do dyno days and do meetups. We also have a convention every year that's located in a different state every summer where we caravan to.
 
blue92 said:
Really? So it's just a myth that NA$CAR is worried about the loss of fans in their sport? or how to attract new fans? Road courses are popular because it's closer to driving on the highway. Never drove down a road that's an oval. BTW you have your car clubs mixed up with those car clubs that spit and polish their cars then park them away in their garages. The clubs I'm in drive their cars, do road courses, go to the drags, do dyno days and do meetups. We also have a convention every year that's located in a different state every summer where we caravan to.
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No its not a myth, thats why NASCAR continues to make changes but it has nothing to due with the lack of road courses. NASCAR may add a road course but they are not going to pop up all over he schedule. Your car club sounds fun and I dont doubt one bit that road course racing is popular with car clubs. NASCAR is racing while those car clubs are having their club days so I dont see how they are a good example here when talking about gaining new fans.
 
Montreal and Road America should be at the top of the list if Nascar is going to add more Road Courses

Another track to consider is Long Beach, The Long Beach races are marquee events and having Nascar on a street circuit would be cool to see
 
downnice said:
Montreal and Road America should be at the top of the list if Nascar is going to add more Road Courses

Another track to consider is Long Beach, The Long Beach races are marquee events and having Nascar on a street circuit would be cool to see
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Laguna Seca would be a blast. Imagine the drivers going through the "kink" 2-wide.
 
Snappy D said:
I can't wait for the first dud of a road race when they go to Charlotte or Indy, I wonder how many will jump off the road course bandwagon. IMO, this sport needs maybe 2-3 more short track races and 1-2 REAL road courses not a Roval. (Road America says hello)
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Almost everyone acknowledges those two tracks are compromises. Using their r/cs is away to make changes to the schedule while allowing the existing tracks to keep their dates. Should they prove to be duds, it would help make the case for moving those dates to true r/cs.
 
LewTheShoe said:
Nascar's #1 strategic mission should be adding races in Montreal and Mexico City. Not doing that is business malpractice of felony proportions IMO.

I agree. I believe Nascar on the Indy road course would be a total snooze, and a major business mistake. Nascar should keep racing on the Indy oval, which is high in degree of difficulty and really separates the contenders from the pretenders. Recently, @FLRacingFan offered good rationale for the strategic importance of IMS and the Indianapolis market. Abandoning that race would not be wise IMO.
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Indy may be a challenge for the drivers but it's a snoozefest to watch. NASCAR is in the business of entertaining fans, not challenging drivers.
 
Nitro Dude said:
I think it's painful to watch Indy cars on any road course. I can watch nascar on a road course, but not an Indy car. I have tried but I can't get into Formula One either.
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Funny, I prefer Indycar on r/cs and find them ill-suited for ovals.

Street courses are an abomination unto the eyes of the Lord and shall not be abided.
 
blue92 said:
That's a statement from a person who's never driven a road course in their life. So F1 isn't real racing?
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What does driving one have to do with enjoying any form of racing? I sure the majority of fans of all forms of racing have never been on any sanctioned track.
 
R Clarence said:
They need some jumps. A tunnel they have to run through every few laps with fireworks triggered to go off as they go thru. A big ole sprinkler to keep one turn soaked. Kinda sorta aim it at the left side of the cars right at window net height.

Finally, at least one nice, deep, messy sippy hole per facility.
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You're either Bruton or Chitwood, I ain't figgered out which.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Indy may be a challenge for the drivers but it's a snoozefest to watch. NASCAR is in the business of entertaining fans, not challenging drivers.
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Some fans enjoy the diversity of the season-long test and paying homage to motorsport history and traditions. That's why F1 needs to race at Monaco, and why Nascar needs to race at Indy on the oval. JMO.
 
Some say needs to...others say have too.:) I've watched thousands of laps at Indy and I don't remember ever seeing two Nascars side by side in a corner there. I might be wrong, but I don't think it happens much.
 
^ Not much side by side through Eau Rouge either, before Spa was castrated by curbs that aren't curbs and cars that have excessive downforce and drag.
 
LewTheShoe said:
Some fans enjoy the diversity of the season-long test and paying homage to motorsport history and traditions. That's why F1 needs to race at Monaco, and why Nascar needs to race at Indy on the oval. JMO.
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Boom! 100% agree.
 
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