Ross Chastain is a Future Star

Revman said:
He bent over. I am deeply disappointed. Glad he stuck with Chevy. The pussification of Ross has begun. He backed his driver until The Felon voiced displeasure. Enjoy the crumbs. #FreeRoss
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Let’s not over react, all will be well and good if his next victim ISN’T another bow tie.
 
AdoubleU24 said:
All of these guys race their asses off every single lap and all of them obviously take it very serious otherwise I doubt they'd be strapping their lives into a race car more than 3/4 of the year. You can do all of that without doing what this guy does.

I really don't see how he's being made out to be this billy badass either. Have you seen his post incident interviews? He never flat out owns anything in a "don't **** with me" kind of way the way people are acting. It more often comes off like he's missing a few brain cells.
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Exactly. All these "raise hell praise the new Dale" posts miss this. Where's his "they ought to fine the sunovabitch and suspend his ass!" interview? (Dale v Ricky Rudd) He's always a doe eyed "aw shucks, I so sowwy, I do better" toddler. Until Moe Stooge grabs him, but that's another subject... (you did notice that Ross both grabbed his right hand and had the security guy right there before he swung, so he knew that Gragson wouldn't get his in? DBC pointed this out) Dale owned it and basically dared you to do something about it. I'm dying to see him dump the 4 and then deal with Harvick...
 
Mr. H on phone with Marks:
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Dr_B_UNC said:
Exactly. All these "raise hell praise the new Dale" posts miss this. Where's his "they ought to fine the sunovabitch and suspend his ass!" interview? (Dale v Ricky Rudd) He's always a doe eyed "aw shucks, I so sowwy, I do better" toddler. Until Moe Stooge grabs him, but that's another subject... (you did notice that Ross both grabbed his right hand and had the security guy right there before he swung, so he knew that Gragson wouldn't get his in? DBC pointed this out) Dale owned it and basically dared you to do something about it. I'm dying to see him dump the 4 and then deal with Harvick...
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Corporate Harvick is different now.
 
Dr_B_UNC said:
This is what happens when Mr. H takes time away from his Corvettes to call you.
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This is what disappoints me....When Ross had his stuff with Denny, Justin was like "**** Denny." I thought we had a young up and coming leader. We don't. The Felon has intimidated him and the way he leads his company. Justin is just a rich kid in a leadership position. This Trackhouse culture thing is bull****. I am thinking that Chevy got after his ass after the The Felon got after theirs. I really wanted to see somebody chest up to The Chain Gang.
 
Dr_B_UNC said:
Mr. H on phone with Marks:
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Yeah dunno what the deal with Jeffy is....Why isn't he doing the dirty work? Maybe because he made an ass out of himself over the louvers? The Felon be like...'Give me that ****** phone." Chadly be like..."Put me in coach!"
 
....and there are those here who have said that Coach is the wags the Toyota tail......You have Chain Gang Chevy, and then the rest....
 
Ok.
Seriously????
If one of the Toyota drivers started taking out other Toyota drivers, the same exact scenario would take place.
Come on man.
 
Revman said:
He bent over. I am deeply disappointed. Glad he stuck with Chevy. The pussification of Ross has begun. He backed his driver until The Felon voiced displeasure. Enjoy the crumbs. #FreeRoss
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And just like that, Marks learns who is really running the show.
 
Revman said:
This is what disappoints me....When Ross had his stuff with Denny, Justin was like "**** Denny." I thought we had a young up and coming leader. We don't. The Felon has intimidated him and the way he leads his company. Justin is just a rich kid in a leadership position. This Trackhouse culture thing is bull****. I am thinking that Chevy got after his ass after the The Felon got after theirs. I really wanted to see somebody chest up to The Chain Gang.
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Well, when Trackhouse wins another 293 races and 14 Cup titles, MAYBE Chevrolet will listen to Justin as much as they listen to Rick. Nobody at Chevy protected HMS when Earnhardt and RCR were wrecking his cars every week. You want respect? Go EARN it.
 
Formerjackman said:
Well, when Trackhouse wins another 293 races and 14 Cup titles, MAYBE Chevrolet will listen to Justin as much as they listen to Rick. Nobody at Chevy protected HMS when Earnhardt and RCR were wrecking his cars every week. You want respect? Go EARN it.
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The Felon is just flexing--mind games. I wish Justin had told him to **** off....but sadly, Marks turns out to be spineless.
 
Dr_B_UNC said:
Remember when Preacher/Coach pulled a pit crew from a subordinate team that pissed him off? Yeah...
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Remember how many around here wouldn't shut the **** up about it? This hits differently because....The Felon. Jackass move **** talking someone else's driver when yours was in victory lane.
 
Revman said:
Remember how many around here wouldn't shut the **** up about it? This hits differently because....The Felon. Jackass move **** talking someone else's driver when yours was in victory lane.
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Maybe they should trying beating his drivers to the finish line then
 
Revman said:
The Felon is just flexing--mind games. I wish Justin had told him to **** off....but sadly, Marks turns out to be spineless.
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A big part of being a smart businessman is knowing just where you stand in your chosen field and staying in your lane. Marks is smart enough to see the big picture. Marks was also a driver, and I'm sure he understands when enough is enough.
 
JJ_14 said:
Ross is pretty decent, but I'd pump the brakes on the Earnhardt comparisons. Dale is an all-time great, Ross has two career wins. Dale made it happen on the racetrack & his competitors respected him. Chastain is just a clown who wrecks everybody.
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Yea all this for a guy with 2 career wins. Wake me with the Earnhardt comparisons when he gets to maybe 10 wins, a championship, and hes not having “tough conversations” with his owner and manufacturer. The Imitator is all Ross is. I remember the garage and industry respected Earnhardt, you think if Ross wins the Daytona 500, they’re lining up on pit road to shake his hand?
 
Jorge De Guzman said:
Yea all this for a guy with 2 career wins. Wake me with the Earnhardt comparisons when he gets to maybe 10 wins, a championship, and hes not having “tough conversations” with his owner and manufacturer. The Imitator is all Ross is. I remember the garage and industry respected Earnhardt, you think if Ross wins the Daytona 500, they’re lining up on pit road to shake his hand?
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He'll need to do much more than that if he wants to live up to the comparison.
 
JJ_14 said:
He'll need to do much more than that if he wants to live up to the comparison.
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Oh of course I was giving a baseline which in fairness and in his defense it’s tough for anyone to measure up to Dale. My whole issue is the stupid look, goofy smile, and cheesy “My fault, I owe those guys and I’m going to go to their shop to make it up to them” interview he gives after driving through someone. It’s disingenuous, I’d actually be more accepting with how he drove if he was more like “racing hard, we’re a newer team and trying to get all I can out there” and owned up to his driving style rather than the charade we get when does mess up. Sr owned up to it, this dude doesn’t.
 
Formerjackman said:
A big part of being a smart businessman is knowing just where you stand in your chosen field and staying in your lane. Marks is smart enough to see the big picture. Marks was also a driver, and I'm sure he understands when enough is enough.
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Really? So, Justin should be good with 0 championships....and 3 wins compared to the gaudy stats of The Felon? That makes 0 sense. Just what is the "big picture?" Ross is the points leader after being 2nd last year. There is a bigger picture? The Felon doesn't like it. He found a way into the "revolutionary" culture of Trackhouse, and is living rent free. Marks never even sniffed what Ross already has as a driver BTW.
 
Jorge De Guzman said:
Oh of course I was giving a baseline which in fairness and in his defense it’s tough for anyone to measure up to Dale. My whole issue is the stupid look, goofy smile, and cheesy “My fault, I owe those guys and I’m going to go to their shop to make it up to them” interview he gives after driving through someone. It’s disingenuous, I’d actually be more accepting with how he drove if he was more like “racing hard, we’re a newer team and trying to get all I can out there” and owned up to his driving style rather than the charade we get when does mess up. Sr owned up to it, this dude doesn’t.
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I think Ross is just playing mind games honestly. Points leader after being 2nd last year...It's working. When he comes up on somebody, I don't think they have a clue about how to race him. In stark contrast to the "I race you the way you race me" absolute bull**** that nobody lives by. Not a bad idea honestly.
 


Wait a minute...Daniels was whining to his OEM? How did I miss this? Team Chevy. LMAO.
 

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Dr_B_UNC said:
Earnhardt, even though I couldn't stand him, truly was a blue collar guy who was desperately racing to avoid a lifetime as a lint head working in the Canon Mills. Chastain is from a family with a mega melon farm that is a multi-million dollar enterprise. Please spare me the working class hero crap. Just admit you like a guy who unapologetically plows through people. It's ok, no one will think less of you
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Formerjackman said:
Well, when Trackhouse wins another 293 races and 14 Cup titles, MAYBE Chevrolet will listen to Justin as much as they listen to Rick. Nobody at Chevy protected HMS when Earnhardt and RCR were wrecking his cars every week. You want respect? Go EARN it.
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So due to their youth in the business, Trackhouse should just take a $#*+ sandwich from “THE GREAT PAPA H” and eat it? Tell Ricky The Hutt that “OK, sorry, I’ll make sure Ross doesn’t hurt your cars anymore…you can count on that sir…please don’t send us reduced HP motors, and PLEASE don’t cut us off 😭”.

HMS has a contract to produce NASCAR sanctioned equipment. They need to fulfill their commitment and NOT threaten teams in order to INFLUENCE THEIR COMPETITION. THAT is something NASCAR should not let get started…it can start some bad mojo in this sport.
 
Conover said:
So due to their youth in the business, Trackhouse should just take a $#*+ sandwich from “THE GREAT PAPA H” and eat it? Tell Ricky The Hutt that “OK, sorry, I’ll make sure Ross doesn’t hurt your cars anymore…you can count on that sir…please don’t send us reduced HP motors, and PLEASE don’t cut us off 😭”.

HMS has a contract to produce NASCAR sanctioned equipment. They need to fulfill their commitment and NOT threaten teams in order to INFLUENCE THEIR COMPETITION. THAT is something NASCAR should not let get started…it can start some bad mojo in this sport.
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I mean, you can look at it like this. Chevy, Ford, and Toyota are Mafia Syndicates (obviously not literally, but you get the point), and Hendrick's the Don when it comes to Chevy.
 
Jorge De Guzman said:
Yea all this for a guy with 2 career wins. Wake me with the Earnhardt comparisons when he gets to maybe 10 wins, a championship, and hes not having “tough conversations” with his owner and manufacturer. The Imitator is all Ross is. I remember the garage and industry respected Earnhardt, you think if Ross wins the Daytona 500, they’re lining up on pit road to shake his hand?
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Numerous similarities between Ross and Dale, Sr., and thinking back to when Dale, Sr. started in the series. I'm old enough to remember what transpired in the mid-to late '70's with Earnhardt. Ross has the ability and temperament to prove he is as good as many feel he is. Keep in mind, Dale,Sr. did not become the drivers spokesman and direct line to the NASCAR front office for many years and in between, there were a lot of hard feelings, a few punishments and a little payback as was seen during the early years with Ernie Irvan. Earnhardt, Sr., drove aggressively when he had to and by controlling that aggression eventually earned the respect he received. Ross will do the same.
Rick Hendrick was within his rights to put Justin on notice and Justin apparently got the message loud and clear. This will become a game changer.
Once again, while there are those who decry Rick Hendrick for his criticism he was doing what team owners and drivers do best, police their own.

I'm a cheerleader for Ross. I think he has great potential to rival the best of the best, once he controls his aggression. His problem was Justin allowing him to have free rein and got away with it for too long. Ross will win and he will not disappoint his naysayers nor those who want to see payback. He has been given his limits and it is up to him. In the end, my prediction is, he will become one of the greats in the sport and receive respect from fellow drivers and team owners.
 
The million dollar question now is if Ross tones it down after Justin talks to him, will he still be running in the front of the pack or will he be too nervous to wreck somebody and everyone will be easily passing him?
 
Revman said:
I think Ross is just playing mind games honestly. Points leader after being 2nd last year...It's working. When he comes up on somebody, I don't think they have a clue about how to race him. In stark contrast to the "I race you the way you race me" absolute bull**** that nobody lives by. Not a bad idea honestly.
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Ross is in everyone's head, and honestly, Kyle Larson's proven to be easy to psych out. Ty Gibbs psyched him out last year.
 
Revman said:
Really? So, Justin should be good with 0 championships....and 3 wins compared to the gaudy stats of The Felon? That makes 0 sense. Just what is the "big picture?" Ross is the points leader after being 2nd last year. There is a bigger picture? The Felon doesn't like it. He found a way into the "revolutionary" culture of Trackhouse, and is living rent free. Marks never even sniffed what Ross already has as a driver BTW.
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I never said Marks should be good with nothing. I said when his team has accomplished a LOT more than it has so far, then this situation might get handled differently. Do you think Rick is handling this the same way if Ross drove for RCR? The bigger picture is while Trackhouse has a LOT going for them, they are still the new kid on the block, and it would serve Justin well to not make enemies out of THE guy at Chevrolet. What happened to Furniture Row for not being the obedient seen and not heard child was WAY worse than anything Rick said to Justin.
 
Conover said:
So due to their youth in the business, Trackhouse should just take a $#*+ sandwich from “THE GREAT PAPA H” and eat it? Tell Ricky The Hutt that “OK, sorry, I’ll make sure Ross doesn’t hurt your cars anymore…you can count on that sir…please don’t send us reduced HP motors, and PLEASE don’t cut us off 😭”.

HMS has a contract to produce NASCAR sanctioned equipment. They need to fulfill their commitment and NOT threaten teams in order to INFLUENCE THEIR COMPETITION. THAT is something NASCAR should not let get started…it can start some bad mojo in this sport.
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Well, anytime Justin and PB want to get their billfold out and start producing their own engines.......
 
Jorge De Guzman said:
I remember the garage and industry respected Earnhardt, you think if Ross wins the Daytona 500, they’re lining up on pit road to shake his hand?
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Seems like a disingenuous comparison, no? Dale didn’t show up and instantly get respect and he feuded with a lot of his competitors in the 80s and early 90s (Darrell Waltrip, Rusty Wallace, Mark Martin, Geoffrey Bodine, Ricky Rudd, and others I am sure I am forgetting). The garage and industry did not respect Dale when he was just starting out, he had to earn it. If Dale were starting today, I would bet my life savings that the NASCAR online fans would bitch about his driving style.

When Dale won the Daytona 500, it had been 20 years since his first full time season in Cup. Let’s check in and see where Ross is by then. They may be lining up to shake his head, we don’t know yet.
 
Formerjackman said:
Well, anytime Justin and PB want to get their billfold out and start producing their own engines.......
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It hilarious to compare Hendrick motorsports and what they have done in Nascar to a rap star/rich kid organization in the first place. I'm glad Trackhouse is in the sport, but some people need their heads examined.
 
Daytripper said:
The million dollar question now is if Ross tones it down after Justin talks to him, will he still be running in the front of the pack or will he be too nervous to wreck somebody and everyone will be easily passing him?
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I think he'll be fine. He's had very good finishes and will continue to do so.
 
Conover said:
So due to their youth in the business, Trackhouse should just take a $#*+ sandwich from “THE GREAT PAPA H” and eat it? Tell Ricky The Hutt that “OK, sorry, I’ll make sure Ross doesn’t hurt your cars anymore…you can count on that sir…please don’t send us reduced HP motors, and PLEASE don’t cut us off 😭”.
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Yes. Couldn't have said it better myself actually.
 
Daytripper said:
The million dollar question now is if Ross tones it down after Justin talks to him, will he still be running in the front of the pack or will he be too nervous to wreck somebody and everyone will be easily passing him?
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If he isn't a total hack he'll be just fine
 
Formerjackman said:
I never said Marks should be good with nothing. I said when his team has accomplished a LOT more than it has so far, then this situation might get handled differently. Do you think Rick is handling this the same way if Ross drove for RCR? The bigger picture is while Trackhouse has a LOT going for them, they are still the new kid on the block, and it would serve Justin well to not make enemies out of THE guy at Chevrolet. What happened to Furniture Row for not being the obedient seen and not heard child was WAY worse than anything Rick said to Justin.
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So how long does Justin kiss The Felon's ass before he gets his?.....and just like everybody who blabs about Furniture Row, ya got nothing. Conveniently leaving out heart attacks and familial influences...but I get it....wait for it....The Narrative. Whatever on that. The employees at Trackhouse probably felt that they were players. The way their owner folded under the weight of The Felon had to be disheartening. Back to the original question....How long does Justing wait? After The Felon comes Jeffy and Chad.
 
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