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No but soon he will get the message that he should have faith in his team mates instead of trying to out race them. Time to get serious for him.
Was at the race and watched Blaney quite a bit. On most restarts when he was on the bottom lane he would get ate up pretty good. Seemed like he was being ultra conservative. It seems he has lost some of that agression he had shown earlier in his career. For sure he and his car had good speed. Once things settled down from the restart he would normally start picking off positions. Rarely did someone pass him. Not sure what is going on with him, but he just doesn't seem as focused this year.
 

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Weird. You like to stalk now...
Says the guy who queefs himself anytime a certain driver finishes outside the top 10.

Also. Ya posted that a day ago. Idk about "stalking" you lmfao.
 

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Back to Blaney, I’m disappointed in his performance. Seems to be regressing? Still in top 10 in points? Like to see at least one win this year but he’s not been there at the end in any races lately....
 

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I hate to do this, but...


KyBu nailed it. It may seem harsh, but KBM as a top Truck organization has clear expectations for performance and winning. An argument has been made that it is a development series and more patience should be given for young drivers -- fans can decide for themselves where the line is drawn for KyBu's public critical driver assessments.

Cup is not a development series -- it is top tier. Blaney is producing as a Top 10 driver; but Penske (like JGR and other top Cup teams) is about winning -- and not just winning but going after the big prize on the big stage (Cup Championship, Indy 500, etc).

Doubtful that I'll ever hear a Penske official give an unfiltered critical driver assessment -- just seems like they're too sophisticated and professional to air their critical comments publicly. But Blaney has just one Win for Penske -- only they know what amount of time and money they're willing to invest in YRB to get him competitive enough to challenge Cup Champions and other top drivers to get to the Final Four and compete for the Championship.
 

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If you don't like him, just say you don't. Good lord man, what a soap opera.

You sound like the dude who ran into Bubba Wallace thread after one bad race. Yikes man, you think its not frustrating for him to see Logano and Keselowski do well? He's a racer like anyone else, he has the ability to beat his teammates. Its a tall task, but he can become a top-tier driver. He's close, but all this talk about how bad he's been is ludicrous. He'll find his footing and get back to leading like he was during the first quarter of the season.
 

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I hate to do this, but...


KyBu nailed it. It may seem harsh, but KBM as a top Truck organization has clear expectations for performance and winning. An argument has been made that it is a development series and more patience should be given for young drivers -- fans can decide for themselves where the line is drawn for KyBu's public critical driver assessments.

Cup is not a development series -- it is top tier. Blaney is producing as a Top 10 driver; but Penske (like JGR and other top Cup teams) is about winning -- and not just winning but going after the big prize on the big stage (Cup Championship, Indy 500, etc).

Doubtful that I'll ever hear a Penske official give an unfiltered critical driver assessment -- just seems like they're too sophisticated and professional to air their critical comments publicly. But Blaney has just one Win for Penske -- only they know what amount of time and money they're willing to invest in YRB to get him competitive enough to challenge Cup Champions and other top drivers to get to the Final Four and compete for the Championship.
So here's the deal. I'm a total Ryan Blayney fan. Actually he's the reason that I started paying attention to NASCAR again.
So, with that being said...……..

I pay attention to his position and who he is racing more than the race itself.

He is in a little slump right now. (I'm glad finishing 9th is a slump)

There has been more than one race this year where he was in a position to win and circumstances out of his control took that chance away.

It is a team effort. I'm not throwing them under the bus though because I believe they will come around.

I believe your assessment is incorrect and the results will show that well before the end of the season.
 

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I expected more wins, but Blaney is a top 10 driver still. Let's go 50-60-70 races without a win before calling his head for......... Austin Cindric? Custer? A guy on another team currently?
 

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If you don't like him, just say you don't. Good lord man, what a soap opera.

You sound like the dude who ran into Bubba Wallace thread after one bad race. Yikes man, you think its not frustrating for him to see Logano and Keselowski do well? He's a racer like anyone else, he has the ability to beat his teammates. Its a tall task, but he can become a top-tier driver. He's close, but all this talk about how bad he's been is ludicrous. He'll find his footing and get back to leading like he was during the first quarter of the season.
Blaney is in what the stick n ballers call a slump. Some who are fans of Blaney who I am one are disappointed, and then we have the poor souls who are negative with just about everything Nascar. :D
 

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anybody looking around would see that the days of a youngster coming into cup or a veteran winning driver from another series doing the same, isn't going to immediately set the Nascar Cup series on it's head? Those days are long gone, it requires an attitude adjustment that many don't realize. So the get rid of him quick for another doesn't work in the cup series. The Kyle spreading B.S. about a couple of young truck drivers? You picked em? Man up.
 

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It has nothing to do with like or dislike. But for the record I like YRB a lot more than Kyle Busch. But I respect Kyle as a race driver (and owner) more than YRB.

If you don't like him, just say you don't...
 

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It was Ryan's dad Dave who put the nix on Blaney doing any dirt racing. I thought it came down from Penske.

 

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Thanks for the acknowledgement.
Does he get bonus points from you for flipping Kyle the bird?
Seems like kind of an empty gesture with the speed of KyBu's Toyota. I was looking for close racing and some back and forth trading with Blaney dropping the hammer -- but he became irrelevant as KyBu headed to MTJ's rear bumper, and not Blaney's front bumper.

3rd place and back were irrelevant.

Interesting to see KyBu after the race play nice, we'll see how that plays out in the future.

Blaney appeared to get the most out of his Ford -- real nice job in grabbing a podium finish on this road course.
 

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and Yes, I think Roger Penske should ban YRB from all Disney properties for the remainder of the season or until he wins a Cup race.
 

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Have to gripe about this kid after yesterday. They had some adversity and bounced back nicely with a solid 6th place finish. Since I didn't have tv I followed on the leaderboard. Here is my beef. The last 50 laps or so he consistently ran faster than the leaders. Restarting around P15 he worked his way up through the field. At one point he was several seconds behind the 2 car. Then with about 10 laps to go he was on the 2 car. Miraculously, his car slowed down a couple mph and never challenged him for the 5th position.
I guess it is not a big deal, but I knew this was going to happen. In similar situations he has given way to his teammates. If that is in his contract, then ok. But I doubt it is and the boy needs to get some fire in his belly if he wants to compete for a championship.
 

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Have to gripe about this kid after yesterday. They had some adversity and bounced back nicely with a solid 6th place finish. Since I didn't have tv I followed on the leaderboard. Here is my beef. The last 50 laps or so he consistently ran faster than the leaders. Restarting around P15 he worked his way up through the field. At one point he was several seconds behind the 2 car. Then with about 10 laps to go he was on the 2 car. Miraculously, his car slowed down a couple mph and never challenged him for the 5th position.
I guess it is not a big deal, but I knew this was going to happen. In similar situations he has given way to his teammates. If that is in his contract, then ok. But I doubt it is and the boy needs to get some fire in his belly if he wants to compete for a championship.
That's a mighty serious accusation you are making... flopping, taking a dive... with really no evidence. You didn't even see the race. But surely you know how hard it was to pass with these aero rules we have. Keselowski was pretty dang fast at the end, and he's plenty crafty at using his wake of dirty air to keep a guy behind him. I think you need something much more solid in the way of proof before you accuse a professional driver of taking a flop... JMO.
 

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Blaney and Kyle got into each other numerous times during the race.The broadcast showed two that I saw. One with Blaney forced Kyle to pit with a flat on the left side which would have been with contact to Blaney's car on the right side. I would guess at least half the field had damage of some sort, lots of contact between cars and also the wall took it's toll. It had more contact than some of the short tracks.Blaney could have been off sequence with better tires when he gained all of those spots. All kinds of reasons out there, but IMO Blaney wouldn't lay down.
 

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Blaney and Kyle got into each other numerous times during the race.The broadcast showed two that I saw. One with Blaney forced Kyle to pit with a flat on the left side which would have been with contact to Blaney's car on the right side. I would guess at least half the field had damage of some sort, lots of contact between cars and also the wall took it's toll. It had more contact than some of the short tracks.Blaney could have been off sequence with better tires when he gained all of those spots. All kinds of reasons out there, but IMO Blaney wouldn't lay down.
That was the 22 car that cut Kyle's tire.
 

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Have to gripe about this kid after yesterday. They had some adversity and bounced back nicely with a solid 6th place finish. Since I didn't have tv I followed on the leaderboard. Here is my beef. The last 50 laps or so he consistently ran faster than the leaders. Restarting around P15 he worked his way up through the field. At one point he was several seconds behind the 2 car. Then with about 10 laps to go he was on the 2 car. Miraculously, his car slowed down a couple mph and never challenged him for the 5th position.
I guess it is not a big deal, but I knew this was going to happen. In similar situations he has given way to his teammates. If that is in his contract, then ok. But I doubt it is and the boy needs to get some fire in his belly if he wants to compete for a championship.
Maybe he just used up his car getting to that point?
 

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That's a mighty serious accusation you are making... flopping, taking a dive... with really no evidence. You didn't even see the race. But surely you know how hard it was to pass with these aero rules we have. Keselowski was pretty dang fast at the end, and he's plenty crafty at using his wake of dirty air to keep a guy behind him. I think you need something much more solid in the way of proof before you accuse a professional driver of taking a flop... JMO.
Perhaps a bit of over reaction on my part. He had no problem passing cars all day. He ran him down and I believe I posted in the race thread that he wasn't going to pass the 2 car despite being several mph quicker. It is just frustrating when you have seen this happen with Blaney in the past.
Blaney and Kyle got into each other numerous times during the race.The broadcast showed two that I saw. One with Blaney forced Kyle to pit with a flat on the left side which would have been with contact to Blaney's car on the right side. I would guess at least half the field had damage of some sort, lots of contact between cars and also the wall took it's toll. It had more contact than some of the short tracks.Blaney could have been off sequence with better tires when he gained all of those spots. All kinds of reasons out there, but IMO Blaney wouldn't lay down.
No, I am pretty sure he wasn't off sequence.

Maybe he just used up his car getting to that point?
Possible. As he was catching him he didn't show any signs of his car being used up and it was odd that as soon as he caught him his speed dropped. That didn't happen to him with any other car he had passed.

I am a big fan of the Blaney family and enjoy watching Ryan race. It just seems he has lost some of the aggressiveness he had shown earlier in his career and this year seems to be a bit of a challenge for the 12 team to keep it together for a whole race.
 

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Blaney is already on record not enjoying this wide open package, it has hurt his chances.

Bowman and Byron on the other hand.
 

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Blaney is already on record not enjoying this wide open package, it has hurt his chances...
Yup -- perhaps Blaney would be more comfortable competing in the NBA, where the hoop and height, ball, court dimensions, rules "package", etc are more similar year to year. :)
 
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