Silly Season 2020

Discussion in 'NASCAR chat' started by StandOnIt, Apr 4, 2019.

  1. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    Let the speculation begin......I don’t think this is good for Alex any way you slice it.
     
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  2. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    some will have to ignore what Hendrick said about Bowman's future. He's signed for next year, and Hendrick said:
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  3. JBone88

    JBone88 JR Nation's last ride

    Sucks to see sponsors leave, especially one as committed to the sport as Nationwide. Alex will be fine. He’s having a breakout year and is top 10 in points. Not to mention Mr. H says he’s under contract through next season.

    The key here is driver salary. I doubt HMS is paying Bowman all that much. A talented driver on a cheap contract will factor into the sponsorship budget crunch for 2020. Versus shelling out the dough for a Kurt Busch or Larson.
     
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  4. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    Rick also said that about Kasey Kahne in 17...and I also remember Rick saying there was “No Room at The Inn” for Dale Jr in 2008. Now Kyle Busch drives for JGR.
     
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  5. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    huh? Hendrick paid a years salary to Kahne to run with Levine family racing and threw some sponsors in on the deal. Kyle Busch dug his own hole at Hendrick
     
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  6. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    Rick said Kasey was safe at one point in 2017. Rick also said that he wasn’t going to sign Jr in 2008....I just wouldn’t dismiss them losing Nationwide as no big deal for Bowman. They can’t even sponsor the 24 fully.
     
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  7. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    yo k
     
  8. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    ?
     
  9. 2 Sweet

    2 Sweet Legend

    Mr. H said he didn't have room, and at the time, he was right. Kyle Busch hadn't quite worn out his welcome yet :D
     
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  10. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    Yes no room at the inn until Rick made Kyle vacate his room lol
     
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  11. JBone88

    JBone88 JR Nation's last ride

    This is true. However those things were said before Byron won a championship and Kyle bailed at Texas (allowing Jr to drive his car).

    Losing sponsors is always a big deal. I’m not dismissing it. I just can’t see Bowman being tossed to the curb yet. Not with how he’s running of late. He’s the 2nd best performer at HMS the last two seasons.

    And as I already mentioned, he’s cheap. Easier to slap Hendrick Autoguard on a car when the driver isn’t commanding a champion’s salary.
     
  12. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    yep and it isn't like the solar bunch bailing at the last minute like what happened to Ganassi, they have time to work some deals before next season.
     
  13. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    Yes sir I agree, I would bet Rick will keep Alex but it will sting not having Nationwide. If however I had to be hopeful of an organization finding a sponsor it’s Hendrick Motorsports. They are good at finding new companies to come on board. I do hope they’ll ditch the 88 though since the last connection to Jr is now gone and slap a 25 on that car next year.
     
  14. 2 Sweet

    2 Sweet Legend

    Screw Nationwide! We don't need 'em! If they don't want us, we don't want them! Good riddance! Someone better will come along :D
     
  15. Ventisca

    Ventisca Team Owner Contributor

    Where is Ian McVittle?

    We need someone to sound the alarm! (again)
     
  16. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    you miss him? go look for him :cool:
     
  17. Ventisca

    Ventisca Team Owner Contributor

    BOLO!

    Last seen being escorted off premises by the Mods... :D
     
  18. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    I'm not worried about Bowman, he can drive the heck out of the car when he has a fast one to drive. On the other hand, the heat has been turned up so it will be interesting to see what he does.
     
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  19. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

    Nationwide was pretty well a Junior sponsorship and he was the spokesman. Like many of his deals, his money came from his personal commercials and representation. It may just be that the deal between Nationwide and Junior has ended and so they are cutting ties with HMS as well? Something triggered the "early clause".
    Bowman fits the bill very well for the HMS stereo type and is a very good driver so I am sure they will sponsor him and resign him next year as well. ( My BOLD Prediction for next year.) :D:D
     
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  20. Ventisca

    Ventisca Team Owner Contributor

    Snapshot

    JGR: 4 Kyle, MTJ, Denny, Jones
    Penske: 3 Logano, Kez, YRB
    HMS: 4 JJ, Chase, Bowman, Byron
    SHR: 4 Harvick, Aric, Clint, Suarez
    CGR: 2 Kurt, Larson
    RCR: 2 Austin, Hemric
    RFR: 2 Stenhouse, Newman

    Top Organizations*: 21 Driver slots

    40s: JJ, Harvick, Kurt, Newman, Bowyer
    30s: KyBu, MTJ, Kez, Denny, Aric, Stenhouse
    20s: Logano, Chase, Jones, YRB, Bowman, Byron, Suarez, Larson, Austin, Hemric

    ===

    Xfinity drivers moving up to top teams 2020? Custer, Reddick, Bell

    MENCS drivers -- shift to top teams? Buescher, Bubba, Ty, Preece, Tifft...

    Hanging out? Menard, Matt D, Ragan, LaJoie, McDowell, Yeley...

    ===

    *Not including satellite/alliance teams.
    Bold: Cup Champions
     
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  21. donthaveanickname

    donthaveanickname Team Owner

    I wouldn't really call RFR and RCR's Cup organizations elite teams.
    They can't win a race on speed these days.
     
  22. Truex_rox

    Truex_rox 19 looks better than ever.

    It fell out of the hauler as it was being dragged away from the racetrack for the last time, and suffered a spin on the highway.
     
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  23. Ventisca

    Ventisca Team Owner Contributor

    I didn't.
     
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  24. Fordracing7

    Fordracing7 2018 Pick em Champion

    I think you pretty much nailed it
     
  25. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

    RCR could have won 1 on speed, driver had a brain fart.
     
  26. AuzGrams

    AuzGrams Team Owner

    RCR and RFR are at the top of Cup teams that don't have race winning speed.

    Ryan Newman and Matt Kenseth have helped some but not a lot to be winning at RFR. Daniel Hemric has had a lot of struggles so far which I think has set RCR back a little.
     
  27. Fordracing7

    Fordracing7 2018 Pick em Champion

    Yup

    Tier 1
    Gibbs
    Penske
    SHR
    Hendrick

    Tier 2
    CGR
    RCR
    RFR

    Tier 3
    JTG
    Woods
    LFR
    Germain
    RPM
    FRM

    Yup...
    GoFas
    STARCOM
    RWR
    Spire
    Premium
    Etc...
     
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  28. Madman88

    Madman88 Crew Chief

    The only one i would ask about is Woods, aren't they more on par with RCR and RFR than Germain and FRM?
     
  29. AuzGrams

    AuzGrams Team Owner

    Tier 1
    Gibbs
    Penske
    SHR

    Tier 2
    Hendrick
    CGR

    Tier 3
    Wood Brothers
    RFR
    RCR

    Tier 4
    JTG
    Germain
    LFR
    RPM
    FRM

    Tier 5
    GoFAS
    StarCom

    Tier 6
    Premium
    Spire
    Rick Ware
     
  30. Madman88

    Madman88 Crew Chief

    sadly for a number of reasons this looks about right this season so far
     
  31. Fordracing7

    Fordracing7 2018 Pick em Champion

    Yeah probably....but with menard driving it really holds them back lol
     
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  32. Kiante

    Kiante Team Owner

    Via frontstretch.com

    Another team maybe on the verge of closing its doors after this season. The question is who could it possibly be?
     
  33. Fordracing7

    Fordracing7 2018 Pick em Champion

    Yikes that's scary! Honestly CGR comes to mind first but Roush I another one where I would'nt be shocked...
     
  34. Hawaii808

    Hawaii808 Team Owner

    I saw some reckless rumor mongering on Twitter with RFR as the subject.
     
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  35. Kiante

    Kiante Team Owner

    Ganassi is the first that popped to mind. Lost Target and DC Solar, a lot was invested into those two for Ganassi.

    Roush has gained a lot of sponsorship, especially for Newman with Oscar Meyer, Acorn, and maintaining Wyndam Rewards. Lets hope all teams are back for next season, it would be a shame to lose another organization like that.
     
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  36. wi_racefan

    wi_racefan Crew Chief

    That's the first one that comes to mind for me.

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  37. DaBiff1618

    DaBiff1618 Team Owner

    My shot in the dark guess would be Gannassi, they’ve lost a ton of sponsorship and he may say f it and focus on Indycar
     
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  38. Robert J Sublett

    Robert J Sublett Team Owner

    Roush has been mentioned in discussions in other places I hang out as time getting short so who knows.
     
  39. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

  40. Dr_B_UNC

    Dr_B_UNC Team Owner

    RFR is what I saw on Reddit. They shut the guy down immediately, but then to see a legit reporter bring it up (while not naming teams)...
     

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