Silly Season 2020

Rick Ware's fourth car will make it's debut at Bristol next week.
If he keeps expanding like he's been doing since the start of 2017, he's gonna own NASCAR in five years.
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It appears that operating a race team can generate positive cash flow. When the business model is based upon a primary revenue stream generated by the team's drivers and capital costs and operating expenses are dramatically reduced by the use of other people's cast-off cars and components, success awaits.

Junk to be more precise. His charter(s) will slip away from him and he will be gonzo.
 
Rick Ware Racing also announced they’re joining IMSA and the Asian Le Mans Series today. Not joking.

Could be vaporware but given their history I think we could actually see Cody Ware spinning like a top in Thailand this winter.
 
aunty dive said:
His charter(s) will slip away from him and he will be gonzo.
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If they take them away who do they go to? RWR #2? Maybe he can sell it to himself. It's not like teams are bearing down the doors begging for them. IMO all charter system system has done is make it harder for teams to get into the sport

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wi_racefan said:
If they take them away who do they go to? RWR #2? Maybe he can sell it to himself. It's not like teams are bearing down the doors begging for them. IMO all charter system system has done is make it harder for teams to get into the sport

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Those charters aren't getting taken away. I'll put money on it.
 
FLRacingFan said:
Rick Ware Racing also announced they’re joining IMSA and the Asian Le Mans Series today. Not joking.

Could be vaporware but given their history I think we could actually see Cody Ware spinning like a top in Thailand this winter.
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No way. I call bull****

Edit: No ****** way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What the ****!!!!
 
Maybe he knows about possible changes to IMSA that we don't know about or has backing for that. Heck if I know.
 
AuzGrams said:
What's so surprising about Ware being a backmarker in other series? I'm not in the least bit.
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It's the notion that a race team ought to be half-way competitive at one form of racing before it attempts another. I could see switching to a different form if it looked like they could run better, but why add something else when you haven't managed what you're already doing?
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Bigger by one more car barely running minimum speed. Do you consider that a good thing?
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To most people, no. Myself personally, I like seeing a full 40 car field and there's always going to be very slow cars, I'm not saying I condone some of the crap Rick Ware Racing does.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
It's the notion that a race team ought to be half-way competitive at one form of racing before it attempts another. I could see switching to a different form if it looked like they could run better, but why add something else when you haven't managed what you're already doing?
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Rick Ware Racing has ran motocross & Rolex Sports Cars before I believe, I'm just saying it's not like I'm shocked they're trying other series.
 
aunty dive said:
Someone has to finish 36th.

The system is self-cleansing.
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Obviously there will always be backmarkers.

As it should be. They’ve made no attempts to improve or be competitive. These ****boxes shouldn’t be guaranteed a spot in the field and prize money just cause they show up and run 10 laps down every week.
 
JBone88 said:
Obviously there will always be backmarkers.

As it should be. They’ve made no attempts to improve or be competitive. These ****boxes shouldn’t be guaranteed a spot in the field and prize money just cause they show up and run 10 laps down every week.
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I don’t disagree with that.

Run bad enough for long enough and you lose the charter. It’s in the agreement. That’s all I’ve got.
 
aunty dive said:
I don’t disagree with that.

Run bad enough for long enough and you lose the charter. It’s in the agreement. That’s all I’ve got.
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Once again who do you get to replace them that will do better? If you keep kicking out the bottom teams we'll see 20 cars running around the track in 10 years

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JBone88 said:
Obviously there will always be backmarkers.

As it should be. They’ve made no attempts to improve or be competitive. These ****boxes shouldn’t be guaranteed a spot in the field and prize money just cause they show up and run 10 laps down every week.
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I have nothing against backmarkers. I just don't get why someone would want to do it in multiple series.
 
wi_racefan said:
Once again who do you get to replace them that will do better? If you keep kicking out the bottom teams we'll see 20 cars running around the track in 10 years

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Under the current understanding, you run two bad years and then someone else runs a couple bad years and everyone is happy and nobody loses anything. If you have 3 charters you can run last every year, just keep changing which car finishes last.
 
Charters aren't getting taken away guys/gals. Because there's obviously new teams chomping at the bit to get one?

Even the aforementioned Gaunt Brothers Racing that I'd like to see go full time only runs 10 races a year.
 
Remember the Go or Go Home day's of Qualifying? Best Backmarkers money could buy.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
It's the notion that a race team ought to be half-way competitive at one form of racing before it attempts another. I could see switching to a different form if it looked like they could run better, but why add something else when you haven't managed what you're already doing?
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They think they can sell the program to customers since LMP2 is dependent upon funded amateurs. The AsLMS has only four races and not much competition so it's one of the cheapest and easiest ways to get the Le Mans bid Rick wants. IMSA LMP2 barely has any cars at the moment so it's possible for them to earn some hardware, although still probably unlikely. So it makes sense but the idea of RWR trying to keep a car on track in Malaysia is still funny as hell.
 
DIDIT said:
Yepper, that is the same thing they tell the youngsters in minor league baseball. Also college coaches motivate their football players by bringing pros in to lay a few good licks on them. I also enjoy seeing a high school senior playing on the 7th grade basketball team.
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These are race cars and racing is a technical skill that is honed. The fact is Kyle Busch has been beaten by truck and Xfinity series regulars before. Those lower level drivers havent really beaten anyone until the beat a cup driver.
 
10-4 said:
those aren't even valid comparisons. These are race cars and racing is a technical skill that is honed. The fact is Kyle Busch has been beaten by truck and Xfinity series regulars before. Those lower level drivers havent really beaten anyone until the beat a cup driver.
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I believe they really are. There is a reason cup drivers with less than 5 years of experience get to race more than a driver, a cup champion with 16 years of cup experience races in the truck series? You really think that is very fair? Something worth watching? Would you go pay good money to see that? Not me. Especially when it was happening the majority of the truck races before the rules came about to eliminate it.
 
Johali said:
On my part It's not tears or crying but an opinion just like your's. The races, which I tune in to watch or attend, are much better without an egotistical nincompoop of a Cup driver in it. In a car/truck prepared by a cup team, crewed by a Cup pit crew with Cup engineers present and Cup money behind them. Without the aforementioned nincompoops the racing is "Always" Better. There's a difference between a Cup driver dropping down to help a team figure out what's needed to improve a team/car/truck and a top tier driver wanting to lord over the minor leagues.
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I get it I hate him too. I hated Jimmie Johnson when he was a winner. Hated Gordon. Despised Earnhardt Sr. But I didnt whine about them racing and winning all the time even though it got old. Money has always won racing at whatever level in this sport. That has never and ne er will change. It's just the way of the world. The lower tiers of the sport are less interesting when you can't see guys beat someone we all know is good. Like him or hate him he is hands down the best driver of the past several years. I dont like these rules limiting cup drivers but it is what it is.
 
StandOnIt said:
I believe they really are. There is a reason cup drivers with less than 5 years of experience get to race more than a driver, a cup champion with 16 years of cup experience races in the truck series? You really think that is very fair? Something worth watching? Would you go pay good money to see that? Not me. Especially when it was happening the majority of the truck races before the rules came about to eliminate it.
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I would never pay money to see a truck or Xfinity race in person with the exception of El Dora. I dont have time for it and it's more convenient to watch on tv.
 
Maybe we will get lucky and and all four of RWR cars will take each other out before we get to half way at Bristol.
 
10-4 said:
those aren't even valid comparisons. These are race cars and racing is a technical skill that is honed. The fact is Kyle Busch has been beaten by truck and Xfinity series regulars before. Those lower level drivers havent really beaten anyone until the beat a cup driver.
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Um, OK...you said racing is a technical skill that is honed. That completely contradicts your point.
 
DIDIT said:
Um, OK...you said racing is a technical skill that is honed. That completely contradicts your point.
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Stacking the deck, with the best truck, cup crew when possible, 16 years of racing on the track many times running two or three races at the same track the same weekend. yo k no skill honing necessary, just follow the 51 around if ya can see it. :p
 
@DIDIT No I did not. Kyle Busch versus Cole Custer is not the equivalent of a pro football player versus a college one. That's a physical contact sport. Think of it in terms of gaming. Practice makes perfect. That is the technical honing. Some guys get it very quickly. But with racing the whole team has to perform at their very best so it's not all entirely on the driver.
 
StandOnIt said:
Stacking the deck, with the best truck, cup crew when possible, 16 years of racing on the track many times running two or three races at the same track the same weekend. yo k no skill honing necessary, just follow the 51 around if ya can see it. :p
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It's a team effort. If everyone wants to get to cup then they better be able to perform at that level. Kyle Busch doesnt win every race he enters. Guys that beat him get my respect. Anyone whining that he shouldn't be racing, that's kind of sad. Why? Beat the guy on the track. Throw money at it. Get better put crews. Put in the work.
 
10-4 said:
It's a team effort. If everyone wants to get to cup then they better be able to perform at that level. Kyle Busch doesnt win every race he enters. Guys that beat him get my respect. Anyone whining that he shouldn't be racing, that's kind of sad. Why? Beat the guy on the track. Throw money at it. Get better put crews. Put in the work.
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I guess they could run cup champions in the trucks..no wait.
 
10-4 said:
@DIDIT No I did not. Kyle Busch versus Cole Custer is not the equivalent of a pro football player versus a college one. That's a physical contact sport. Think of it in terms of gaming. Practice makes perfect. That is the technical honing. Some guys get it very quickly. But with racing the whole team has to perform at their very best so it's not all entirely on the driver.
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We obviously can't see each others point. Ok with me, I know I am right. :)
 
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