Silly Season 2020

Speedbowl14 said:
There's also driver personalities/attitudes, shady business practices, excessive backstabbing, and the contractual "bounding" TRD does to 15-17yo drivers who will need to stay with Toyota to have any kind of driving career at all in their lives.

So no, I wouldn't say "winning" is why I don't like TRD/Gibbs/Kyle.


Former Jeff Gordon fan here, too if you don't believe me.
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This post is illustrative of bias (which is fine) expressed as a statement of fact. I won't bother breaking it down.
 
Snappy D said:
I dont see it..... I think Bell is light years better but thats just me.
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Chris bell 2019 age 24 7 wins
Cole Custer 2019 age 21 7 wins

I think bell is good but how good? Everyone looks like superman in those cars.
 
Snappy D said:
Clint has pretty consistent sponsorship with Rush Truck Center, Blue DEF, Mobil 1, Cummins and Peak Anti Freeze. I am not sure what your angle is here, HAAS has rotated among all the SHR cars excluding the 4 this year.
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and the reason is because they don't have enough sponsors.
 
StandOnIt said:
Pretty much true. I think the old days of a new guy showing up and winning multiple races immediately are long gone. It has been years and years since that happened. I think any of the new guys making it to cup would be lucky to make it to the first playoff round
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At least until this older generation is completely gone. 2001 to about 2006/7.
 
Bell is a generational talent. He doesn't come with money, and doesn't come with personality, but he'll be in Cup because he's an incredible race car driver.

Cole was/is lucky sperm, and I can tell you Gene isn't the biggest fan, and his father Joe had done a lot internally to turn many people at SHR off with regards to him. Having said that, I think Cole has won many people over, and proven he probably belongs. He deserves a lot of credit for the way he's maturing as a person, and as a race car driver.
 
Nice to know Cole has matured and honestly as a driver with the expereince he has gained these past four-five years, he has shown a lot of growth. He's definately proven to be a very good driver, hopefully the success Custer, Bell, and Reddick will translate into Cup.

Good to hear from you @Allenbaba as well.
 
Allenbaba said:
Bell is a generational talent. He doesn't come with money, and doesn't come with personality, but he'll be in Cup because he's an incredible race car driver.

Cole was/is lucky sperm, and I can tell you Gene isn't the biggest fan, and his father Joe had done a lot internally to turn many people at SHR off with regards to him. Having said that, I think Cole has won many people over, and proven he probably belongs. He deserves a lot of credit for the way he's maturing as a person, and as a race car driver.
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Yeah it is hard to argue his continuing improvement as a race car driver. Like him or not, it sure is easier to like a driver when he wins a lot.
 
Allenbaba said:
Bell is a generational talent. He doesn't come with money, and doesn't come with personality, but he'll be in Cup because he's an incredible race car driver.

Cole was/is lucky sperm, and I can tell you Gene isn't the biggest fan, and his father Joe had done a lot internally to turn many people at SHR off with regards to him. Having said that, I think Cole has won many people over, and proven he probably belongs. He deserves a lot of credit for the way he's maturing as a person, and as a race car driver.
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AB in the HOUSE! :puffin:
 
It seems evident that despite cole proving he’s a good driver, that SHR doesn’t think too highly of him. If they’re not willing to boot Bowyer, Suarez (my choice), or Almirola, then he will likely be pawned off to some mid pack team like Roush did with Buescher. I think this years silly season will be the tell tale of SHR’s opinion of Custer’s value
 
DaBiff1618 said:
It seems evident that despite cole proving he’s a good driver, that SHR doesn’t think too highly of him. If they’re not willing to boot Bowyer, Suarez (my choice), or Almirola, then he will likely be pawned off to some mid pack team like Roush did with Buescher. I think this years silly season will be the tell tale of SHR’s opinion of Custer’s value
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It's really odd that Roush pawned Buescher off. He's so much better than Bayne and Stenhouse that it's not even funny.
 
DaBiff1618 said:
It seems evident that despite cole proving he’s a good driver, that SHR doesn’t think too highly of him. If they’re not willing to boot Bowyer, Suarez (my choice), or Almirola, then he will likely be pawned off to some mid pack team like Roush did with Buescher. I think this years silly season will be the tell tale of SHR’s opinion of Custer’s value
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I read somewhere that Bowyer benefits from sponsor Rush Trucking being high on him. That will keep him in the 14 to some degree.
 
DaBiff1618 said:
It seems evident that despite cole proving he’s a good driver, that SHR doesn’t think too highly of him. If they’re not willing to boot Bowyer, Suarez (my choice), or Almirola, then he will likely be pawned off to some mid pack team like Roush did with Buescher. I think this years silly season will be the tell tale of SHR’s opinion of Custer’s value
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Money, Aric and Daniel have sponsor backing, and like already stated, Rush TC likes Clint.
 
DaBiff1618 said:
It seems evident that despite cole proving he’s a good driver, that SHR doesn’t think too highly of him. If they’re not willing to boot Bowyer, Suarez (my choice), or Almirola, then he will likely be pawned off to some mid pack team like Roush did with Buescher. I think this years silly season will be the tell tale of SHR’s opinion of Custer’s value
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I think Bowyer's gonna abruptly retire out of frustration in the not too distant future.

There are a lot of drivers, and Bowyer is one of them, who are absolutely miserable racing under this package. Matt Weaver's done several stories about this.
 
Allenbaba said:
Bell is a generational talent. He doesn't come with money, and doesn't come with personality, but he'll be in Cup because he's an incredible race car driver.

Cole was/is lucky sperm, and I can tell you Gene isn't the biggest fan, and his father Joe had done a lot internally to turn many people at SHR off with regards to him. Having said that, I think Cole has won many people over, and proven he probably belongs. He deserves a lot of credit for the way he's maturing as a person, and as a race car driver.
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Cole Custer reminds a lot of the Labonte brothers.
 
Allenbaba said:
I know Custer and Front Row have spoken quite a bit. He could potentially land there for a season or two if SHR lineup stays the same.
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Any kernel of truth to a rumor I saw on twitter that McDowell is not resigned and they may send one of their charters to RWR?
 
Allenbaba said:
I know Custer and Front Row have spoken quite a bit. He could potentially land there for a season or two if SHR lineup stays the same.
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Not a surprise. I actually think Custer spending a year or two in Front Row could be a win-win-win situation. And SHR has several drivers not yet ready for a rocking chair but not all that far from it... #4 and #14.
 
Suarez is so confusing.

I want him to succeed badly, but I'll be damned has he been invisible and wildly inconsistent. I spoke with him at Daytona in July and he's such a genuine guy. It was awesome to meet him and have an opprotunity to speak with him. His performance needs to match because 10 top 10s and 4 top 5s are inexcusable to this point.

SHR has had a down year, but Suarez especially needs to step up his game entirely. He's had speed on Friday and Saturday, but it has not translated to Sunday. Give him one more year in a make or break deal IMO. Hell, how the way it sounds SHR has Harvick and three guys on the cusp of being booted out at this point.
 
Almirola hasn't been any better than Suarez at the end of the day.

I really don't see what's been so awful about Bowyer aside from the 0 in the win column.
 
AuzGrams said:
Almirola hasn't been any better than Suarez at the end of the day.

I really don't see what's been so awful about Bowyer aside from the 0 in the win column.
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But the more important thing is how many times has Haas been on the side of the 10?
Money talks

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Pretty sure Suarez has just as much backing as Almirola. There's contractual agreements with Arris not being on the 41 in 2019 IIRC.

Also Bowyers sponsors like him more than Custer who doesn't really bring a ton of outside funding either aside from Daddy being an exec & personally I think Bowyer deserves another year or 2 (which he just got I'll have to read).

I know how the game works.
 
Harvick needs better teammates.

I don't care which two out of the three are replaced at this point.
 
Bowyer since Michigan II has been pretty good. Like Five top 10s and a top 5, he's improved at a great time stringing together finishes.

Losing Kurt Busch IMO has a lot to do with this slight downturn. Kurt's feedback has been instrumental for CGR's progress, so just maybe SHR in losing him maybe a slight loss they have felt?

Not sure, just extremely perplexed.
 
Ventisca said:
Harvick needs better teammates.

I don't care which two out of the three are replaced at this point.
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At least 1 better teammate! I'd be happy with if two cars are sponsor cars and 2 are championship contenders....not the current situation

1 contender
1 9-14th with barely any sponsorship
1 playoff but 12-16th with full sponsor
1 mid packer with minimal sponsorship....I thought Arris brought more but doesn't really sound like it.
 
Larson would be the ideal fit. Maybe grab Erik Jones or Bell if any chance the LFR 95 goes the way the FRR 77 did.

I have no clue why Smithfield likes Almirola so much but it is what is just never been a huge fan of his.
 
Fordracing7 said:
At least 1 better teammate! I'd be happy with if two cars are sponsor cars and 2 are championship contenders....not the current situation

1 contender
1 9-14th with barely any sponsorship
1 playoff but 12-16th with full sponsor
1 mid packer with minimal sponsorship....I thought Arris brought more but doesn't really sound like it.
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Its shows the 2 drivers that were hired on talent and the 2 hired because of sponsorship dollars

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AuzGrams said:
Pretty sure Suarez has just as much backing as Almirola. There's contractual agreements with Arris not being on the 41 in 2019 IIRC.
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Arris has been on the 41 this year .
 
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