Hughes went on with Claire...I missed the interview....so I will get it On Demand, but what I could surmise from the conversation was a few things...1) Cole was the glue, and he left, 2) Martin did not want him in his ear telling him to block because he didn't consider himself that kind of driver, 3) Management backed Martin's request, 4) Clayton felt that he was put in a position to lose because he knew what the other spotters were telling their drivers, and from the previous interview....5) He hated going from a team of 60ish to 600ish.