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They tried. NASCAR’s template is just too restrictive & outdated. Longer you look the worse it gets.

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2 Sweet said:
That look is awesome. Gotta love Ryan Blaney, he's a very likeable personality



Agreed. Also, it's harder to see the lines of the car when it's not painted/wrapped. If you look closely at Elliott's car above, you'll notice the updated quarter panel. Tough to really notice without a glossy paint job.
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It never looked like a Camaro in the first place, just a SS in different garb.
 
2 Sweet said:
Looks a hell of a lot better than this..............

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For sure!

Spotter22 said:
Looks identical except for the splitter which is understandable.
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The splitter, the front air dams, the size of the c pillar, the wheel wells (especially the rear), the squared edges rather than rounded, etc...

Its a big step in the right direction from a design & creative perspective but that body shape is a far cry from a Camaro ZL1.
 
ChexOrWrex said:
For sure!


The splitter, the front air dams, the size of the c pillar, the wheel wells (especially the rear), the squared edges rather than rounded, etc...

Its a big step in the right direction from a design & creative perspective but that body shape is a far cry from a Camaro ZL1.
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Its a race car, not a street car so of course some of those things are different and the quarter panel "shelfs" are done like that on purpose for aerodynaymics. I was talking mainly about the nose which was the change made.
 
Spotter22 said:
Its a race car, not a street car so of course some of those things are different and the quarter panel "shelfs" are done like that on purpose for aerodynaymics. I was talking mainly about the nose which was the change made.
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The ZL1 is a mass produced race car out of the factory.

This is simply Chevy emulating the ZL1 for NASCAR’s version of a race car.

In my opinion it doesn’t look great, but it is leaps & bounds the best looking gen6 design we’ve seen since the Charger.

Baby steps...

Take a look at the GT4.R for the ideal Camaro race car on the track.
 
ChexOrWrex said:
The ZL1 is a mass produced race car out of the factory.

This is simply Chevy emulating the ZL1 for NASCAR’s version of a race car.

In my opinion it doesn’t look great, but it is leaps & bounds the best looking gen6 design we’ve seen since the Charger.

Baby steps...

Take a look at the GT4.R for the ideal Camaro race car on the track.
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Its not a race car out of the factory, not even close. A Muscle car, but not a race car.
 
Spotter22 said:
Its not a race car out of the factory, not even close. A Muscle car, but not a race car.
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Respectfully disagree. For a street production car that you can go out and buy from your local dealer, it's pretty close. Just look at some of the cars it beat at Nurburgring. Better yet, look at the capabilities of the ZL1 1LE.

Either way, "track car" is much more appropriate than "muscle car" IMO.
 
Spotter22 said:
Its not a race car out of the factory, not even close. A Muscle car, but not a race car.
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Shows you do not know much about it then.
2 Sweet said:
Respectfully disagree. For a street production car that you can go out and buy from your local dealer, it's pretty close. Just look at some of the cars it beat at Nurburgring. Better yet, look at the capabilities of the ZL1 1LE.

Either way, "track car" is much more appropriate than "muscle car" IMO.
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Agreed. 6.2L V8 out of the Z06 and lapped Nurburgring at 7:29:60.

It is not stripped down for weight and doesnt have added safety features for strictly racing, but it is a ‘made for the track’ car available to the public.
 
ChexOrWrex said:
Shows you do not know much about it then.

Agreed. 6.2L V8 out of the Z06 and lapped Nurburgring at 7:29:60.

It is not stripped down for weight and doesnt have added safety features for strictly racing, but it is a ‘made for the track’ car available to the public.
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You go bring one from the factory and I'll blow you out into the weeds. Then we will see who knows how much.
 
Spotter22 said:
Weak
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This isnt a “me vs you” debate, that is stupid and childish on the internet. Go to the Podium if you want to revel in online barbarism.

If you want to get back to talking about race cars, I’m game. Otherwise you can be petty on your own.
 
ChexOrWrex said:
This isnt a “me vs you” debate, that is stupid and childish on the internet. Go to the Podium if you want to revel in online barbarism.

If you want to get back to talking about race cars, I’m game. Otherwise you can be petty on your own.
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Its about you calling a factory car, a race car and me telling you its not then you saying I dont know what I'm talking about. Yes I do.
 
StandOnIt said:
It was pretty froggy in the A.M. might have had a slick spot. Needs more wind tunnel. :D Rev broke it.
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Gotta keep my TRD powered '18 Toyota Camrys in front...by any means you know.....
 
I like it. It’s very easily identifiable.

It’s also engineered to be spooled up to 200 + mph, go into yaw and stay wheels down. There has to be that compromise ... it cannot be avoided.
 
2 Sweet said:
Looks a hell of a lot better than this..............

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Personal opinion of course, I disagree, if we are comparing that year Charger to the same year Camaro, hands down Charger, but I am not a person that likes Camaro's or Mustangs.

Now, lets use the current year Charger to compare with the current year Camaro, only fair right?
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jws926 said:
Personal opinion of course, I disagree, if we are comparing that year Charger to the same year Camaro, hands down Charger, but I am not a person that likes Camaro's or Mustangs.

Now, lets use the current year Charger to compare with the current year Camaro, only fair right?
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I was simply comparing the closeness of the current Camaro race car vs. the actual production car, and the "Charger" race car circa 2007 vs the production counterpart. That hideous thing that they tried to pass off as a Charger looked nothing like the actual car.
 
2 Sweet said:
I was simply comparing the closeness of the current Camaro race car vs. the actual production car, and the "Charger" race car circa 2007 vs the production counterpart. That hideous thing that they tried to pass off as a Charger looked nothing like the actual car.
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It seems that I missed that part, but you are correct, it was not very close to the production Charger, but neither were the Ford and Chevy's , although they were a heck of a lot closer than the Charger for sure.
 
jws926 said:
It does look a hell of lot better than the SS for sure.
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I couldn't disagree more. The SS street car was a damn fine looking car, and considering the limitations put on the bodywork by NASCAR, I think the race car was also very nice looking, easily my favorite GM race car since the G body cars of 1981-88. I'm OK with the new Camaro, but I don't think it looks that much better, and I'm still having a hard time getting used to pony cars in Cup racing, even if it makes sense. For the entire fifty years of my life, Cup cars have been mid-sized SEDANS. The case for the pony cars isn't helped by the fact that the Xfinity Camaros and Mustangs are HORRIBLE looking.
 
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