Bring back the damn 10 race Chase.
this is the reason why things like today happen. Catering to that lack of an attention span just compounds bad decisions.
That’s what I’d like to see, I liked the 2011-2013 format in particular. I don’t believe we ever had a scenario between 2004-2013 where the championship was clinched before the final race, so you can still have an intriguing finale without the elimination crap.
I'll go with 20 more years of blubbering no matter what the point system is or for that matter what tracks they race at.
That's a task most ordinary folks don't have the time or resources/man power for. Wanting and blubbering sounds good. No one is threatening to disown the sport.
I would say millions of people HAVE disowned the sport since 2003. I know dozens of them personally. They don't scream and yell and pitch a bitch, they just stop coming to races and they just stop watching it.
That's good for them, they must have hated it. I'm not gonna turn in my fandom over a points system. Champions are champions. But that also doesn't mean fans can't prefer a modified points format. Not sure if this is what you're saying but "stop bitching and stop watching if you don't like it", is an extreme take/response. I love NASCAR. I also wish we want back to the Chase.
When your championshup format gets clowned on in one of the biggest markets for motorsports in America, you know it sucks
Stage racing needs to go as well imo.
thats the thing. I guarantee that if NASCAR sent a press release in January saying a Full Season points system was back in effect you'd have half the fan base bitching about THAT! I think we are too far removed from 2004 to ever go back to a full season points system, theres a whole generation of fans that dont even know what that is and are conditioned to what we have now. It is what it is at this point, I dont have the energy anymore to hate it, make fun of it yes with snark comments....yes I most certainly will. But not to sit and wish about Winston Cup Points systems or Chase For The Nextel Cup days gone by. It's not going to accomplish anything.
I keep it simple. It's their cars, their tracks, and it's their business. Compared to almost every other racing series in the world they are thriving in comparison. Of course there are always those who think they know more, but I can't for the life of me find any racing series that is in their names lol.
it's not right, but it's what we've got. Seems like many of us dislike it to at least some degree, and some of us hate it altogether.
It never happened, but I believe under that format you’d also make the Chase if you were within 400 points of the leader even if you weren’t in the Top 10, which would be equivalent to like 100-130 points in today’s format.
Of course that conveniently ignores that NASCAR is a shell of what it was when all the new geniuses in Daytona Beach took over and thought they were smarter than everybody else.
If you knew anything, it would be different I suppose. As it is, it is old man yelling at cloud and living in the past
When the racing began to suck?
Well, it started when Brian "born on third base and thinks he hit a triple" France began to wield real influence. Honestly, I had very high hopes for the post-Brian brain trust, but they have been pretty disappointing too. They have gotten some things right, but they get far too many things wrong.
Yea, the stage racing has actually grown on me, but I don't like the yellows that follow their conclusion. Keep the racing going and just award the points for the top 10 at the stage end.
I guess the pinned thread would have to be even longer. Less racing is covered up by commercials when they are shown during stage breaks.
I actually like it "at" the track. It's a nice bathroom break without missing too much.
Doesn't sound like it is without commercials.