What should Chads penalty be CHEATING AGAIN?

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There are folks on this forum who would get excited if Chad was exonerated by a panel of New Jersey housewives.
 
FenderBumper said:
Didn't Chad use an appeal to get off the hook in 2005?
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No, he didn't. They did appeal and they lost. Here's the info from 2005.....

THE RULING ANNOUNCED

National Stock Car Racing Commission Statements

#48 Team: On March 22, 2005, the National Stock Car Racing Commission heard and considered the Appeal of Jeff Gordon, Jimmie Johnson and Chad Knaus concerning three penalties assessed by NASCAR relative to the #48 car following the NASCAR NEXTEL Cup Series race at Las Vegas Motor Speedway on March 13, 2005. The infractions concerned Section 12-4-A of the NASCAR Rule Book “Actions detrimental to stock car racing” and Section 12-4-Q “Any determination by NASCAR Officials that the car, car parts, components, and/or equipment used in the Event do not conform to NASCAR rules: roof height too low in post-race inspection.”

The penalties assessed were:
• Loss of 25 NASCAR NEXTEL Cup Series Championship Car Owner Points for car owner Jeff Gordon.
• Loss of 25 NASCAR NEXTEL Cup Series Championship Driver Points for Jimmie Johnson.
• $35,000.00 fine and suspension from NASCAR until April 6, 2005 and suspension from the next two (2) NASCAR NEXTEL Cup Series races for crew chief Chad Knaus.

The car was in violation of the rules at the conclusion of the race. This was not contested during the hearing.

Upon review of the evidence presented, and by a majority vote, it is the decision of the National Stock Car Racing Commission to uphold the penalties assessed against Jeff Gordon and Jimmie Johnson and to amend the penalty assessed against Chad Knaus as follows:
$35,000.00 fine. Probation for 90 days, effective from the date of this Hearing.
This decision pertains specifically to the evidence presented in this Appeal. The Commission’s rulings do not have a bearing on existing or announced NASCAR enforcement policies. The Appellant has the right under Section 15 of the Rule Book to appeal this decision to the National Stock Car Racing Commissioner. Commission were John Cooper, Jack Housby, George Silbermann, Chairman.(NASCAR)(3-23-2005)
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From Jayski.
 
Now that the penalties have been upheld I wonder how long it will be before the next appeal is heard.
 
Chad, we'll see you in Talladega. Now boarding for Cancun.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
No, he didn't. They did appeal and they lost. Here's the info from 2005.....



From Jayski.
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No suspension. Chad did indeed get off. What does HMS/ Gordon care about 35K? Owner and JJ got points taken, but 5 or 6 positions aren't much. Chad got off with a tap on the wrist.
 

CONCORD, N.C. – Hendrick Motorsports will request a hearing before the National Stock Car Racing chief appellate officer to continue its appeal of NASCAR sanctions related to the No. 48 Sprint Cup Series team.
“The panel was generous with its time today, and we appreciated the opportunity to talk through our concerns,” said Rick Hendrick, owner of Hendrick Motorsports. “We feel strongly about this issue and will continue to pursue it at the next level.”
Adjustments to No. 48 team personnel are not planned while the appeal is ongoing.
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National Stock Car Racing Appeals Panel Statement - Penalty Upheld: On March 13, 2012, the National Stock Car Racing Appeals Panel heard and considered the appeal of the #48 Hendrick Motorsports NASCAR Sprint Cup Series team. The penalties concern Section 12-1 of the NASCAR Rule Book "Actions detrimental to stock car racing;" Section 12-4(J): "Any determination by NASCAR Officials that the Race Equipment used in the Event does not conform to NASCAR rules detailed in Section 20 of the NASCAR Rule Book, or has not been approved by NASCAR prior to the Event;" and Section 20-2.1(E): "If in the judgment of NASCAR Officials, any part or component of the car not previously approved by NASCAR that has been installed or modified to enhance aerodynamic performance, will not be permitted: Unapproved car body modifications."
This stemmed from an opening day inspection for the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series at Daytona International Speedway on February 17, 2012.
The original penalties assessed prior to the deferral were:
- Car Owner (Jeffrey M. Gordon)  Loss of 25 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Championship Car Owner points;
- Car Driver (Jimmie K. Johnson)  Loss of 25 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Championship Driver points;
- Crew Chief (Chad A. Knaus) - $100,000.00 fine. Suspended from the next six (6) NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Championship Events. Suspended from NASCAR until April 18, 2012. Placed on NASCAR probation until May 9, 2012.
- Car Chief (Ron P. Malec) - Suspended from the next six (6) NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Championship Events. Suspended from NASCAR until April 18, 2012. Placed on NASCAR probation until May 9, 2012.
Upon hearing the testimony, carefully reviewing the facts and historically comparative penalties, the unanimous decision of the National Stock Car Racing Appeals Panel (John Capels, Leo Mehl, Dale Pinilis and Ed Bennett: Appellate Administrator and non-voting member) was to uphold the original penalties assessed by NASCAR. The Appellants have the right under Section 15 of the Rule Book to appeal this decision to the National Stock Car Racing Chief Appellate Officer.(NASCAR)
Hendrick Statement..appeal continues Hendrick Motorsports will request a hearing before the National Stock Car Racing chief appellate officer to continue its appeal of NASCAR sanctions related to the #48 Sprint Cup Series team. "The panel was generous with its time today, and we appreciated the opportunity to talk through our concerns," said Rick Hendrick, owner of Hendrick Motorsports. "We feel strongly about this issue and will continue to pursue it at the next level." Adjustments to #48 team personnel are not planned while the appeal is ongoing.(HMS)(3-13-2012)
 
The three that heard the case made no since to me. I heard on SPEED earlier and was like who the hell are they? Doesn't seem like a whole lot of NASCAR experience. Oh well, I doubt they'll have any luck on the next one.
 
FenderBumper said:
No suspension. Chad did indeed get off. What does HMS/ Gordon care about 35K? Owner and JJ got points taken, but 5 or 6 positions aren't much. Chad got off with a tap on the wrist.
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Not trying to steer this thread off course but the chase makes those points really not matter since the points get reset when it starts. If this penalty happened during the chase now that would be a different story.
 
With todays' communications and technology, Chad could be 1000 miles from bristol, and still run the show...big whoop.....I can see Jimmy with the hands-free phone talking to Chad the whole race..... :) , on conference call, with the interim CC......LOL
 
I guess Chad's penalty gives the other brands an excuse for being beaten by Chevy year after year. Chad reshapes between the hard points and Roush levitates cooler covers and has their crew yank on back windows. Toyota has rocket fuel and Picasso oil pans. No wonder Penske can't win a championship.
 
FenderBumper said:
I guess Chad's penalty gives the other brands an excuse for being beaten by Chevy year after year. Chad reshapes between the hard points and Roush levitates cooler covers and has their crew yank on back windows. Toyota has rocket fuel and Picasso oil pans. No wonder Penske can't win a championship.
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Don't make an excuse why Dodge sucks.
 
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