Who Gets the 48?

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  1. gnomesayin

    gnomesayin Team Owner

    Further, this all seems predicated on the idea there will still be a Cup Series in 2021, or that Earth will remain habitable.
  2. jaqua19

    jaqua19 Team Owner

    Honestly, his personality screams SHR

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  3. jaqua19

    jaqua19 Team Owner

    He has potential, but is going to be like Busch and Logano.

    Find success elsewhere than his developmental team.

    HMS would be good for him

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  4. Turtle84

    Turtle84 gained a step

    "We like what we're seeing"
  5. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    I will be cheering for HMS to steal Erik Jones from JGR....or if you wanna get wild hope it’s Brett Moffitt.
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  6. 2 Sweet

    2 Sweet Legend

    Allgaier, Moffitt, and Chastain are my preferences. I would be OK with Larson or Jones. No f****** way it'll be Gragson or Annett. No Hamlin either.

    I really hope they switch the number from 48 to 5, but they didn't switch the 88 after Dale retired so I'm not holding my breath.
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  7. Formerjackman

    Formerjackman Team Owner

    I think the world of Allgaier, but I don't see much upside to him as a Cup driver. I think his position as the senior driver and perennial championship contender at JRM suits him well.
    I REALLY like Moffitt, but I would like to see a bigger body of work, like in a really good Xfinity car. If that was going to happen though, it would have happened by now.
    Chastain? Maybe...., (see Kyle Larson)
    Gragson? If he comes out and has a big breakout season in Xfinity and wins early and often, I could DEFINITELY see it happening. Remember that William Byron went from a promising rookie to a named Cup driver in half a season.
    Annett? Not a chance.
    Larson? I could maybe see it, but not if Rick has to "steal" him from Chip. I'm still not convinced that Larson is " All IN" as a Cup Driver.
    Jones? I could see it happening, especially if he gets off to a good start next year, but unless he thinks he's going to get Kenseth'd or moved down to the B team, why leave the best team for one that is trying to crawl back to the top?

    The ones that got away:

    Turn back the clock to last year. If JRM could have figured out a way to hang onto Riddick, he would be the heir apparent to a better Cup ride than the one he just landed.
    Matty D. I don't know how hard anybody in the Chevy camp tried to snag him, but knowing JJ's short time status, he should have been a priority for them.

    I REALLY wish Jimmie would have given Rick a two year window instead of one, that would have given them a LOT more time to put some of the puzzle pieces together.
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  8. Michfan

    Michfan Team Owner

  9. bigspud

    bigspud Team Owner

    no talent package means danika could make a return to cup.
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  10. BobbyFord

    BobbyFord Resident Gearhead Contributor

    I think without Chad the 48 is just another car. HMS isn’t the powerhouse they used to be.
    I’m not impressed with a lot of the guys coming out of Xfin.
    I’d like to see Matt D or Chastain in a quality ride. I’m not sure the 48 is a quality ride anymore, they finished the year a mid-pack car.
  11. DaBiff1618

    DaBiff1618 Team Owner

    I’ve been told that if the President gets re-elected the earth is ending so I guess Rick doesn’t need to worry :rolleyes:
  12. Turtle84

    Turtle84 gained a step

    Larson leaving the 42 for the 48 seems a lateral move. Larson loves Chip and the 42 showed race winning speed in the 2nd half of the season. I wouldn't understand the motive behind making that move from a driver's standpoint.
  13. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

    Matt D is already in a quality ride. (Team Penske)
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  14. BobbyFord

    BobbyFord Resident Gearhead Contributor

    Satellite team, not exactly a Penske car.
  15. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    compared to the underfunded car he was driving, I think he has a car that can win races next year.
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  16. Robert J Sublett

    Robert J Sublett Team Owner

    Wish they would make the 88 the 5 and the 48 the 25
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  17. RacerrecaR

    RacerrecaR Orange cone

    My guess is the #48 will at least temporarily shut down after 2020. Hendrick has been underperforming for a few years and it would benefit them to focus on only 3 cars.
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  18. stop-n-hop

    stop-n-hop Crew Chief

    I think that Christopher Bell would be a perfect fit at HMS. I know that Toyota has him under contract, but who knows, it has happened before.
  19. donthaveanickname

    donthaveanickname Team Owner

    Downsizing didn't help Roush and it didn't help RCR.
    If Hendrick shuts a team down, it would only help Rick Ware as he could get his hands on another charter.
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  20. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Remember the Gator

    From a Pockrass tweet over in the Retirement discussion -

    "Team news release says: 'Hendrick Motorsports will announce plans for its 2021 team alignment at a later date.' "

    If there weren't potential changes, why would they include that in the announcement? There weren't similar statements when Jeff or Jr. stepped down.
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  21. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Remember the Gator

    Do we know when Jimmie first talked to Rick about this? Their conversation may have occurred long before the public announcement.
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  22. Turtle84

    Turtle84 gained a step

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  23. MRM

    MRM Team Owner

    Annett a star? Sorry, I found that to be funny.
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  24. Revman

    Revman 2X CHAMPION

    You mean Stenhoused?
  25. Revman

    Revman 2X CHAMPION

    I don't see Larson in this car. He has boxed himself in with the "Chip gave me a ride when everybody else wanted money" drama.
    I don't see Jones. The only way I see Jones out of that ride is if Larson really wanted it. See above.
    Matt D.? Really? Great story, but he ain't that.
    Wondering if this "alignment" announcement is a downsizing?
    Regardless, the anti-Coach babble is laughable while Rick and "poaching" seems admirable.
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  26. Pat

    Pat Team Owner

    That's an idea.
  27. Simple Fan

    Simple Fan First or Last

    Ally has signed with the team through 2023. Why would you assume there is no sponsorship?
  28. Simple Fan

    Simple Fan First or Last

    Didn't perform at KBM and has yet to prove himself in JRs stuff. Good kid though.
  29. Kiante

    Kiante Team Owner

    Outside of Biffle and Kyle, KBM only has two wins out of the youth that's been with the team the last two years.

    Folks keep pointing back to Byron, but the strength in teams and drivers alter from year to year. I think the competition just improved as well with the new engine rules put into place. Gragson had other opprotunties to win in the truck series, I think he's progressing well with JRM. He at some points was better than his more experienced teammates.

    He doesn't tear up equipment too often either, I think he progresses next year and wins two or three races.
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  30. 2 Sweet

    2 Sweet Legend

    No, he means Kenseth'd. That's why he said it.

    It's not our fault that you can't (won't) see the difference between what JGR does and what others do. Constantly crying foul about poor old JGR and the "unfair" criticism is a bad look.
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  31. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    Rick's never mentioned anyone as family and then ax'd them less than a year later. Coach has always come off as grimey (let us pray) while you know what you're getting with Rick
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  32. 2 Sweet

    2 Sweet Legend

    Rick helped many owners get started in NASCAR once they joined. Sabates, Haas, Stewart, among others....oh, that includes Gibbs too! How funny is that. Joe Gibbs got his start in racing thanks to Rick Hendrick. Yes, JGR actually existed before Toyota came along. Who woulda thunk it?

    You know the JGR slogan: if you can't beat 'em, steal their top talent and force them out of business! But somehow Johnson retiring and Stenhouse FINALLY getting kicked to the curb for a better driver is comparable to all the stuff JGR has done.

    We can continue to explain this stuff over and over and over again, but why? It always falls on deaf ears.
  33. MRM

    MRM Team Owner

    I have a guess for the new driver, but I will wait and use it in the 2020 bold prediction post, when that gets started.
  34. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    KDB, Toyota and Preacher Joe Fan boys always forget JGR got their start from Hendrick. Oh well, Hendrick has a little way to go to surpass Gibbs again IMO
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  35. LJ7201

    LJ7201 Team Owner

    I just want it to become the #5 or the #25. I'd prefer if Hendrick never ran a #48 after him.
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  36. gnomesayin

    gnomesayin Team Owner

    Valid point, for the most part I was just being silly. I still think it is highly unlikely Hendrick would be in such dire straights as to drop a car, especially with the next gen car coming that he has sounded highly supportive of.
  37. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

    It has been said that the WB's cars are produced In house at Team Penske.
    The car is then shipped to WB where they will do the final adjustments and as you have seen over your many years they are very good at it especially for Daga and Daytona.
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  38. Robert J Sublett

    Robert J Sublett Team Owner

    Did some checking. Three names in the hopper. They have all been mentioned in this thread.
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  39. KTMLew01

    KTMLew01 Team Owner

    This was supposed to be snark but I'm actually concerned. Our current political situation is untenable.
  40. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    the two drivers that dont get the 48 ride, I take it will be scooped up by Dodge for their factory team for their imminent return at one of the upcoming Daytona 500's?
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