Who Gets the 48?

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  1. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Remember the Gator

    Face it, @Robert J Sublett , that one is never going away, although even I think it's gotten a bit old.
     
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  2. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    well and then he disappeared for a year after it wasnt proven even remotely close and now he/she has come out of the woodwork. the only insider I trust on here is Allenbaba.
     
  3. 2 Sweet

    2 Sweet Legend

    But but but Barney Visser's PR statement said it wasn't Joe's fault!!!! That's all that matters!!!!!! :sarcasm:
     
  4. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

    This ones really a no brainer. Chastain will take the slot.
     
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  5. Robert J Sublett

    Robert J Sublett Team Owner

    One of these days, I am gonna get the last laugh on the Dodge, but admittedly it will be a couple of years down the road at this point. To the matter at hand, we are a full 8 to 9 months before it will be settled. A lot can happen.
     
  6. Turtle84

    Turtle84 gained a step

    I hope so, I'd like to see some watermelon smashing in Cup. I am a little concerned about his short tracking/road course skills, but he's still developing.

    Allgaier to me is the most complete driver in xfinity on pure driving talent at all tracks. Extremely underrated as some type of journeyman, when he's never had a legit chance at the Cup level in elite equipment, looking at his stats in the 51 he got good value finishes, for what it was. They could use some aged experience at HMS, he brings that, I could see why they might choose Ross over him though.
     
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  7. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

    I like Justin but he's a long shot, Ross has proven he deserves a shot and has cruelly gone through heartbreaking ride losses. He's a talent.
     
  8. retired14

    retired14 Crew Chief

    well this is my quote maybe Rick could convince either Matt or just maybe Carl I know I know what those guys said they would not
    come back to cup at least those two have experience.
     
  9. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

    I don't think there is any need for a experienced Cup driver beginning 2021.
    The cars will be quite different and every driver has quite a bit of experience.
    Use JJ as an example, JG saw something in him but his record doesn't scream that he will be the next superstar. Actually he wasn't shown to be better than Dick Trickle. What Jeff saw I think was a real athlete with a personality that fit the Hendrick mold.
    HMS already has 3 up and comers and I am quite sure 2 of them will be the new JG/JJ for HMS. Drop the 48, bring back the 25 and hire your next top 25 driver that can really keep the sponsors happy and footing the bill.
     
  10. gnomesayin

    gnomesayin Team Owner

  11. Robert J Sublett

    Robert J Sublett Team Owner

    Legit
    A. A 2019 Chase driver
    B. Gragson
    C. What I believe to be a bonafide xfin star for 2020 given who all is moving to Cup.
     
  12. donthaveanickname

    donthaveanickname Team Owner

    John Hunter could possibly also be a candidate for the 48.
    He was the best finishing FRM car in all the races he ran them and always finished at least a lap ahead of McDowell and Ragan.
     
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  13. Robert J Sublett

    Robert J Sublett Team Owner


    Well, he would fit the profile A. 2019 Chase driver...
     
  14. Formerjackman

    Formerjackman Team Owner

    If you want to buy the premise (not sure I do) then realistically it would be Larson or or Jones. I'm not sold on the Larson thing for multiple reasons.

    1) Unless Chip freely lets him go, would Hendrick actually poach a driver from a team he has a business relationship with, and a fellow Chevy team at that?
    2) Would Larson be willing to cut back on his open wheel racing, or would Rick relent and let him do it?
    3) If Kyle wants to race at Indy, how would this affect that?
    4) Does Kyle REALLY have the commitment to NASCAR that Rick would want?
    5) Kyle seems to be too much of a one trick pony for my taste. Yes, he's VERY good at some tracks, but he's underwhelming at a lot of others. Even his ace in the hole of being great at Homestead doesn't mean much now that's it's not the final race.

    I could sooner believe Jones, but ONLY if TRD-Gibbs tries to demote him to the B-team, and that still begs the question of why he has been underwhelming in the fastest equipment out there? I actually thought he was MORE impressive when he drove for Barney, at least as far as expectations go. He also doesn't see as "GQ" for lack of a better term than most of the Hendrick drivers have been over the years.
     
  15. Robert J Sublett

    Robert J Sublett Team Owner

    Can't argue any of those points. Larson is as talented as most if not more but he seems perfectly content with the idea of making a living running dirt three or four nights a week. With what he has made as a Cup driver I am sure he could do easily.
     
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  16. Switchback

    Switchback Team Owner

    What's the status on kybos contract? Back to hms and Chevy where it all began!:D
     
  17. jaqua19

    jaqua19 Team Owner

    Holy **** I forget that JGR was a Chevy team!

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  18. jaqua19

    jaqua19 Team Owner

    Too Bad Reddick couldn't wait on more year.

    Kid looks like a future star.

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  19. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Remember the Gator

    Pontiac, too.
     
  20. Formerjackman

    Formerjackman Team Owner

    Yep. The reason the 18 car IS the 18 car is because that was HMS's R&D team that was GOING TO BE a fourth full time HMS team, at one point with Greg Sacks, Gary Dehart as crew chief and Ultra Slim Fast as a sponsor. They did 12 races with that team in 1990, plus Sacks filled in for an injured Darrell Waltrip. I can't remember what killed that deal, but it seems to me that Slim Fast got hinky about something (perhaps Sacks) and they walked. When Gibbs was looking to get into NASCAR, I believe Rick made him a deal on the whole team, number and all. I think the 18 number came about because Rick registered it with NASCAR to use as "Russ Wheeler's" Hardees car for the Days of Thunder filming. Kind of ironic that after getting canned from HMS, Kyle ends up driving for a team that once WAS part of HMS, and that the guy that fancies himself as Rowdy Burns should actually be Russ Wheeler.
     
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  21. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Remember the Gator

    Gosh, I wish Hardee's was still in this sport. I could see them giving free sausage biscuits for a top 10.

    But I digress. This decision is months down the road.
     
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  22. Marcingak

    Marcingak Team Owner

    My bold prediction is Carl Edwards will come out of retirement to drive the 48 car.
     
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  23. BobbyFord

    BobbyFord Resident Gearhead Contributor

    That would be awesome but I don’t think Carl would ever drive full time again. He’s had enough of the circus.
     
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  24. AuzGrams

    AuzGrams Team Owner

    I'd love to see that but it isn't happening.
     
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  25. Joker

    Joker #1 Harvick Fan

    I'm definitely betting on Gragson. Hendrick seems all aboard the youth train.
     
  26. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

    KB and DH rule JGR and I doubt any driver will show his potential while that is the situation. I think that is why CE quit.
     
  27. dirtguru

    dirtguru Team Owner

    I wouldn't be surprised to see Larson going to the 48.
     
  28. Conover

    Conover Team Owner

    I’d love to see Ross Chastain in the 48! With upper level equipment he’d be a threat every season. Hopefully he can make a major early impact in this upcoming Xfinity season to give himself consideration.
     
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  29. Formerjackman

    Formerjackman Team Owner

    Martin Truex would beg to differ. In my opinion, he was the best of the three VERY GOOD TRD/Gibbs cars, they just came up short when it REALLY counted.
     
  30. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

    Truex wasn't in the same boat as the other drivers promoted to a cup ride (to soon). I am quite sure that when the offer was made by JGR, Truex and Pearn had specific terms that would never allow any more shenanigans such as what Adam displayed previously.
    The 78 team was in a position to make their demands to any perspective teams wanting to hire them. I am pretty sure Toyota made their position regarding this team well known to JGR.
     
  31. Formerjackman

    Formerjackman Team Owner

    You mentioned Carl Edwards. That scenario doesn't seem to apply to his situation at all. Carl came to JGR basically as an equal credential wise to Kyle and Denny, just as Truex did. I don't really buy the premise anyway. IF the 18 and 11 teams are the problem, yet TRD/Gibbs could sit on them for the benefit of Truex, why couldn't/wouldn't they do it for Suarez or Jones? It seems to me that TRD/Gibbs has/had an awful lot invested in those two to let them fail over something they could control.
     
  32. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    I would be intrigued at Corey LaJoie getting a run in the 48.
     
  33. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

    Name a new young driver from an Xfinity series that has done well at JGR while KB and DH have been the stars and have the best sponsors?????
    Truex/Pearn were champions who could dictate certain terms.
     
  34. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    Saw this on Reddit. Dude looks good in those Ally colors
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  35. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Remember the Gator

    Unless reddit listed a reliable source, do we know this is anything other than a great Photoshop job?
     
  36. BobbyFord

    BobbyFord Resident Gearhead Contributor

    Is the 48 even a desirable ride these days? Jimmie couldn’t win in it after Chad left.
    Me thinks Larson is already in a better ride than is the 48.
     
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  37. SpeedPagan

    SpeedPagan The iRacing Guru

    Let's go completely left field and predict Hailie Deegan for the #48.
     
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  38. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Remember the Gator

    James Hinchcliffe.
     
  39. AuzGrams

    AuzGrams Team Owner

    It is a photoshop.
     
  40. BobbyFord

    BobbyFord Resident Gearhead Contributor

    Richard Petty to the 48!!
     

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