Is our guy being considered for a ride there? This I didnt know, I was about to ask if we've had any news or rumors on where The People's Champ will be plying his craft in 2022.
Like talking to a ****** brick wall. I guess you believe that Harvick was the 5th best driver last year too.
I think when it's all said and done, like 5-10 years from now I'd wager that we are going to see that Rick could have done better than what he put in the 48/88 and maybe even the 24. But that's with the benefit of hindsight and that hindsight might be wrong. To answer your question, probably not no. Let me pose a question to you....... do you think Bowman could win in another car thats not HMS AND do you think your guy could win in the 48 himself?
well if I may, if it wasnt for a points reset and playoffs Jeff Gordon would be a 7 time champ, Harvick 3 time and Edwards 2. I think what Stand On It is trying to say is that the points as they are now is the only absolute we are dealing with in this debate. We cant say for certain what itd be if it was full regular season points that we all know and some love.
I heard he does an exceptional job driving junk. Decent cup cars? not so much
regular points you say. 16th. It's nonsensical though, teams race differently with the points system they race under now, but still unimpressive.
I been trying to beat this point into him, and he only wants to talk about the 21 car. He doesn’t wanna look at stuff that shows Matt is better than he’s willing to credit him for.
That record and a buck will get you a cup of coffee. Two years in the 21 was his chance and he blew it. This ain't rocket science.
It surely has to take rocket science for you to realize it’s not a Penske car
Got you right here my guy
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total green rookie in cup. He only has one cup race under his belt. Penske must know something nobody else knows. Personally the way he drives is pretty conservative and I think that will suit him well in the new car his first year
Satellite car isn’t the same as being an actual Penske car IMO. I’m sure they aren’t giving them certain things. I could be wrong on that, but I just feel like they withhold some things
I’m convinced the #54 is better than half the Cup cars lol
I personally think and just my opinion if you put Alex in the 21 I Think he wins in it over time but I dont think his numbers would be far off from where they are with Blaney in there. I think Alex would be on the cusp of the playoffs in that ride but alot would have to go right for him to get in. If Matt was in the 48, I just dont think he'd have the success that you'd have had with Alex in there. I do think in Matt's defense though he gets the 48 in the playoffs or very very close but would be a quick exit. I think Matt would be better in the 48 than JJ in his last season though. My statements are all conjuncture, Id love to pour over some data and really really see, Im just going off what I See sitting on my couch.
Lets also not dismiss Hassler being brought to the box in the middle of the season. Get a full season with him and that’s a hell of a team, IMO. I hope he succeeds with his 2022 gig.
Confused. Penske gave flat Matt another year in the 21 if I remember correctly to build his brand. Lets see ya B.S. your way out of that one there space cowboy
Penske might make choices. But if you think he shares all the resources and data and everything with them then, I can’t change your mind. I’m done talking to you. Gonna spend my last couple weeks or so here in peace.Confused. Penske gave flat Matt another year in the 21 if I remember correctly to build his brand. Lets see ya B.S. your way out of that one there space cowboy
People do that when they are the boss.
That 48 car hasn't been very good most of the year and their luck has been even worse. I sure hope you are not rating Bowman's performance off of the stats from this season. I'm not saying it's Greg Ives but they need to figure out why all of a sudden that team is not competitive. My bet is it's not Bowman...in fact I think if he was in any other car at HMS he would probably be chasing a championship right now unless lady luck followed him there. Lets just look as far as the last couple races. Bowman wasn't the reason he had to start in the rear and Bowman wasn't the reason Bubba crashed him out of the race. The week before Bowman wasn't the one that left the wheel loose.
If you give a team cars and everything like he does. You can make choices. Doesn’t make him the owner, and doesn’t make it an actual Penske car either.
Edit... Here is one I forgot, Bowman didn't put a faulty alternator on the car. The list goes on and on and on.
Ganassi has his own people building the car, setting it up. Penske builds all of the Wood brothers cars with his drivers in the seat, so nope it isn't exactly the same, not even close
How do you know that though
In an alternative universe it's whatever you can think up
I don't consider WBR as a Penske car. Penske builds the cars but the rest is all WBR and they haven't done much in the last 10 years or so. Put Matt in a full JGR, Penske or even RCR car and then make a judgement call taking into account Joey couldn't keep a JGR ride and is now a champion which Denny hasn't been able to do.
I would say WBR blew it, just like JGR blew it with Joey. It is the luck of the draw between driver/CC that makes a team a winner.
