'21 Generation 7 Car news

Discussion in 'NASCAR chat' started by StandOnIt, Feb 19, 2019.

  1. jaqua19

    jaqua19 Team Owner

    I loved the 2003-2007 cars.

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  2. wi_racefan

    wi_racefan Team Owner

    All I'm saying is that if you allow a tolerance teams will manipulate the chassis for a performance advantage. They're doing the same thing with the bodies right now

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  3. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    I understand what you are saying and yeah with the current car that is mostly built by the teams, constant development engineering for more speed while staying under the radar is constantly going on. Outside vendors making certain parts should eliminate a lot of that. The last I heard was that the OEM's will build their own engines, so I'm sure they will dump a ton of money in the engines. Raising HP is the most expensive and gives the least results to gain speed but that isn't going to stop anybody who has the money from doing so, but at least it is a performance enhancer that shows the least results on the track compared to reducing drag by aero.
     
  4. DewChaser988

    DewChaser988 NASCAR fan since 1998

    There was a good idea with the COT though, ot was designed to eliminate the need for track specific cars
     
  5. KTMLew01

    KTMLew01 Team Owner

    Thing is i didn't know that wasn't still included in current chassis. COT was beginning of R& D pre-inspection of chassis before any body panels were installed. Just bare chassis or if you prefer roll cage & frame. I thought they still did that? The speed is found in underbody and radiator panels along with very slight body tweaks. These cars are just huge go-karts so for tracks that they don't use much brake the suspension is fairly irrelevant. Car runs around on bump stops. The new car should be a whole new deal.
     
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  6. ChexOrWrex

    ChexOrWrex Ya gotta wanna

    The COT was ugly as **** but provided some of the best racing the sport has seen.

    Don't @ me.
     
  7. Ventisca

    Ventisca Team Owner

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  8. DewChaser988

    DewChaser988 NASCAR fan since 1998

    Actually, the Gen 4 did that
     
  9. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    not a whole hell of a lot of difference to the car of today FWIW.

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  10. DewChaser988

    DewChaser988 NASCAR fan since 1998

    They were a bit less sensitive to dirty air though.
     
  11. AuzGrams

    AuzGrams Team Owner

    IIRC a lot of people started to get turned off the Gen4 when they started doing the coil binding and all that.
     
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  12. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Remember the Gator

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  13. ChexOrWrex

    ChexOrWrex Ya gotta wanna

  14. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Remember the Gator

  15. ChexOrWrex

    ChexOrWrex Ya gotta wanna

    Ffs I gave you the dictionary definition
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  16. kyle busch 18

    kyle busch 18 1ST PLACE!

    I wish i would of followed racing more back in the 1990's. Those cars looked the best and raced the best. I seen a race from 1995 the other day and was blown away how much better they could race each other
     
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  17. StandOnIt

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  18. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Remember the Gator

    Logano to the #3. You read it here first.
     
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  19. Kiante

    Kiante Team Owner

    From the Cowboy hat to the classic pencil-necked geek.

    You're pushing your luck.
     
  20. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    Testing the car at ISM/Phoenix.
    Joey Logano to test Next Gen car at ISM Raceway next week

    This is confusing I believe it was yesterday and today

    Joey Logano will take part in a two-day test of the Cup Series’ Next Gen car next weekend at ISM Raceway, NASCAR confirmed Tuesday.

    The test on the 1-mile track is scheduled for Monday and Tuesday with Logano the only driver participating.

    NASCAR President Steve Phelps said during championship weekend in Miami that the car is expected to be delivered to teams in July of next year.

    https://nascar.nbcsports.com/2019/12/03/joey-logano-to-test-next-gen-car-at-ism-raceway-next-week/



     
  21. Mispeedway15

    Mispeedway15 Team Owner

    Metrology is a beautiful thing
     
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  22. Mispeedway15

    Mispeedway15 Team Owner

    I will say too the speeds made a big difference. I think it’s what hurt the end of the low downforce era, they were carrying so much damn speed into turns that passing on 1.5 & 2 mile tracks became essentially impossible without a horsepower advantage
     
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  23. SpeedPagan

    SpeedPagan The iRacing Guru

    Looking at the picture of the Gen7 cars, is it me or is the trunk area (decklid) shorter than the Gen6?
     
  24. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    I know they will say it's a generic body, but I wouldn't think it is that far off. Hopefully some decent pictures will show up.
     
  25. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Remember the Gator

    I recall reading that it would be shorter, but I suffer from CRS.
     
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  26. StandOnIt

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  27. SpeedPagan

    SpeedPagan The iRacing Guru

  28. ChexOrWrex

    ChexOrWrex Ya gotta wanna

  29. Hawaii808

    Hawaii808 Team Owner

    Is it just me, or where the hood vents on the last test car bigger? New ones that are more sponsor logo friendly?
     
  30. Kiante

    Kiante Team Owner

    Stop playing with me:

    - Car is not crabbing
    - The car is not sucked to the ground
    - Dual exhaust outlets on both sides
    - Sound badass, of course and I'm noticing the RPMs are not as dramatic.

    Not to mention the car looks great from the front, but I need some pics of the rear and that rear decklid. NASCAR might be onto to something here...
     
  31. wi_racefan

    wi_racefan Team Owner

    I like it so far at least it tracks straight and isn't all yawed out. Sadly give teams enough time and they'll take care of that

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  32. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

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    Lots of subtle and not so subtle changes.
     
  33. Hawaii808

    Hawaii808 Team Owner

    Liking that profile a lot.
     
  34. wi_racefan

    wi_racefan Team Owner

    I'd like to see a good front on pic and an overhead pic

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  35. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    Car looks extremely racey, and like how its higher off the ground
     
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  36. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    These are off the Nascar site
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  37. ChexOrWrex

    ChexOrWrex Ya gotta wanna

    Remember this is still a generic body. They are still testing the chassis and suspension.
     
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  38. KTMLew01

    KTMLew01 Team Owner

    I don't care about the body. Want to see the suspension and drive-train. Big springs or coil-overs? IRS or solid axle? Rack & Pinion or 50 y/o center link/idler arm ****. Quick change center section so they don't have to spend a million bucks on rear gears?
     
  39. SpeedPagan

    SpeedPagan The iRacing Guru

    Still not a big fan of the big ass rear spolier, but this car is looking better and better.
     
  40. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Remember the Gator

    The nose is basically flat from top to bottom, other than the slightly recessed trapezoid around the grill.

    There's a whole lot of square footage on that front end below the top crease going to the hood. Might make for some interesting paint schemes.

    Does the splitter stop several inches short of spanning the full front width? That should put an end to the Ben-Hur effect.
     

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