'21 Generation 7 Car news

Discussion in 'NASCAR chat' started by StandOnIt, Feb 19, 2019.

  1. Hawaii808

    Hawaii808 Team Owner

    12 chassis for the whole season? What happens when a team has a run of bad luck and runs through the chassis? Is the design built to be (relatively) easy to repair?

    Could you imagine a certain retired drivers fortune with this rule?
     
  2. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    I screwed up, they have 12 active chassis and 4 inactive for a total of 16

    NASCAR will track use on chassis for 2020. A total of 16 chassis are allowed for each car number, 12 active and 4 inactive.
    -Each car number will be allowed a maximum of 12 certified chassis designated as “active” at any given time. There was previously no limit. Each vehicle number will also be allowed to retain four chassis designated as “inactive,” set aside for future use.
    -Chassis can be de-certified or retired only after use in a minimum of three races or if damage from a crash is deemed irreparable. Chassis designated for the preseason Clash exhibition race at Daytona International Speedway will not count against a car number’s active allotment, unless that chassis is also used in the Daytona 500.

    https://racingnews.co/2019/10/02/2020-nascar-rules-announced/
     
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  3. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses.

    Could they phase the new car in? Require it on plates, R/Cs , and short tracks the first year, and the 1.5s and 2s the following year?
     
  4. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    What Chad is probably fretting about is about all the data they have gathered on the Gen 6 car that is mostly worthless for use on the new gen car and the rumors of layoffs in the shop because of reduced manpower needed with standardized parts like the chassis.. St. Hilaire in the article wasn't concerned about the cost involved or building an entire new fleet. In fact, what he said below is that he is pleased with the progress on the car and it is UNDER budget

    “NASCAR and the teams are doing the right thing, and I think that summer timeline is the right time that we’ll need that car.”

    Not much is yet known on who the suppliers will be. St. Hilaire offered that the process is still being worked out on “a ton of things. Things like the chassis and certain parts and pieces have been awarded, which has been good, and we’re under budget as of now, so that’s always a good thing. We saw a big number in the beginning, but a lot of things coming in is a lot less than what we initially anticipated, so that’s good to see. I think everything is going to come out pretty good.”

    https://racer.com/2020/02/07/cup-teams-weigh-the-challenges-of-next-gen-preparations/
     
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  5. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    This is what I was getting at, sorry if I wasn’t clear.
     
  6. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    They did that in 2007 with the COT but I don’t think anyone wants to do that this time around.
     
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  7. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    Remember this

     
  8. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses.

    I'll remember I had my doubts about the statement "they won't be building the actual chassis"
     
  9. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    yeah I have read many articles that hinted Dallara was going to build the chassis, and on the other hand heard Nascar was taking bids on building the chassis. I think this clears that part up at least.
     
  10. wi_racefan

    wi_racefan Team Owner

    I think it's the only way it can be done and keep the playing field level

    Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
     
  11. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    yeah and Dallara could have done that, but it isn't happening for some reason. I think it is because going with multiple chassis builders the price will be lower and they can also supply a lot of chassis in a short time. Nobody has said multiple chassis builders though, it could just be one manufacturer awarded the contract from a bid.
     
  12. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses.

    Multiple builders offers a backup in case one has a quality or production issue. This is a series that has one of the largest fields and longest schedules. There's enough demand to support at least two builders.
     
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  13. Hawaii808

    Hawaii808 Team Owner

    If as has been said that teams will be taking delivery of the Next Gen cars this summer, they damn well better get building really soon.
     
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  14. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    That is why I guessed at having multiple builders when there really hasn't been much said about it. They are talking about having multiple cars to test this summer so something has to happen pretty quick if it hasn't already.
     
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  15. Hawaii808

    Hawaii808 Team Owner

    This is my marketing guy thinking here...perhaps the lack of info on the builders and car details is meant to prevent all that from taking attention away from this years racing. The old “look here, not there”.
     
  16. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    yeah for sure, the press hasn't been invited to any of the tests so far, a few photo's have leaked out and some fans have shot some very amateurish videos of track time. That's about it
     
  17. jws926

    jws926 I need to think of something new for here

    The ole famous "slight of hand" tactic .
     
  18. Mispeedway15

    Mispeedway15 Team Owner

    Yeah we do this at Honda all the time. Stamping presses always go down at suppliers which causes component shortages down the line. It’s why when awarding business we fan out what company gets what
     
  19. Kiante

    Kiante Team Owner

    New article featuring David Wilson of TRD:
    https://www.roadandtrack.com/motorsports/a30982374/engine-manufacturers-want-nascar-to-go-hybrid/
    Some points:
    The push-to-pass is a headscratcher. For me, at least. Cost effective self-deploying system would be much better for ovals, that way the hybrid tech can be used more often than not.
     
  20. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    That’s a pretty powerful ERS. Damn.

    The philosophy behind wanting more short tracks and road/street courses makes even more sense then. More applicability for the hybrid and then the idea to showcase it in major metro areas is in the same vein as Formula E.
     
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  21. Acs

    Acs Team Owner

    He can't possibly be that naive. Lack of braking is no object to the engineers at Ford, Chevy and Toyota. As long as the infrastructure is allowed on the cars I can guarantee you they'll find a way to recharge the battery even at Talladega.
     
  22. Ventisca

    Ventisca Team Owner

    Pinwheels? Solar? Driver methane recovery system?
     
  23. aunty dive

    aunty dive Team Owner

    He's advised by a pool of engineering talent sufficient in size to fill a high school auditorium.
     
  24. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses.

    The word 'deployed' to me implies the system won't even be present on the cars taken to minimal-braking tracks.
     
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