I could barely tolerate tobacco sponsorship. That's an ownership too far.
See...too many of the members take this place waaaaay too seriously. I mean, other than SOI, nobody here is on NASCAR payroll. We CAN have some fun.
But look how aerodynamic those Tesla pickups are!I could barely tolerate tobacco sponsorship. That's an ownership too far.
If you think two stage breaks are too may interruptions, wait until the recall notices start arriving. Let's not even start on the truck series.
Too many folks across the Interwebs take sports too seriously. Only a handful here are or were directly involved in motorsports. The rest of us lose nothing but hours on our recliner test logs if NASCAR implodes.
SOI will never let me hear the end of this, but those may finally be vehicles I'd enjoy seeing jammed into a pack at Daytallanta.
That was an awesome read. NASCAR is basically an auto racing mafia family. I'm surprised extortion wasn't alleged.
Yeah, they were holding a gun on Hendrick over there at LeMans. Race or die.
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Tell that to SOI. I’m just telling him that you can’t blame the teams or leagues for those players being broke, they suck with their money.
There ya go councilman Bobby said Nascar is going to lose. We should all go home.
Just listening to that makes me angry. Sounds like going to have some serious mud slinging on their side.
Yeah many things have been said that work for the chain pulling grandstanding going on, but they won't go anywhere in a court of law. A number of teams worked on developing the car, a number of them produce parts for the car, large changes were not able to be done on the run to keep costs down until the next year. Nascar admonished because they own tracks? They have the freedom to choose who and what races on them. It's a team built car, build something else and run it elsewhere nobody is stopping you. Many teams do so. On and on. Who knows they might have a point on some things, but I didn't see much today but working to manipulate the fans they could.
Jogging your memory. Back when the charters were GIVEN to the teams to start with, many of the lower tier teams were start and parkers. Can't remember exactly the numbers but with the given charters there was a clause that teams were supposed to maintain in at least one of three years something like 33rd place?
Is there a minimum requirement for maintaining a charter?
Also keep in mind that the same team owners mentioned were instrumental in giving us the RTA, which was as much as anything an admission that they weren't all in on NASCAR's way if doing things. I think it would be presumptuous to assume that EVERYONE that signed the new agreement is not in sympathy with the non-signers. The vibes I get is that NOBODY was all that happy with what they signed, they mainly did it for pragmatic reasons, not principle reasons, so if I were Larry Mac, I would be hesitant to build an argument based on who signed it.
I don't think Larry's ignorant, I just think he knows where his bread is buttered. I wouldn't expect ANYONE in the NASCAR broadcast orbit to say ANYTHING very counter to the NASCAR party line. Larry can afford to throw a couple of team owners under the bus.
To bring it full circle, I knew a couple of long time NASCAR competitors from the 60's forward that were CONVINCED that the Mafia was pulling NASCAR's strings as far back as the late 50's when Bill France Sr. needed to raise funds build Daytona. I was also told that the time Bill Jr. supposedly broke his ankles in a boating accident, that it was really was a Mafia enforcer that did it. Not saying I believe a word of it, but those two sure did.
Yes. Just a hypothetical if the injunction is denied (I highly doubt it will be) and therefore they actually do miss some, but not all, races as a result. It may not be covered in that case.
This.
Probably chant something vulgar about Harris behind the victory celebration. "Let's Go Harrison" flags will be available Monday.
The agreement they signed forbid criticizing it and or NASCAR, remember? If you have any doubts about the lack of enthusiasm for the agreement, go back to Rick Hendrick's statement, possibly the most positive spin guy I have ever seen; "I was just tired". That's certainly not a ringing endorsement.You would think that these teams who are supposedly not happy would be posting statements. All so far is a friend of a friend says they aren't happy.
I would be to after two years of negotiations. A person can read anything into that they want.
Rick is the biggest glass half full guy I know of in racing. If "I was tired" was the BEST reason he could come up with signing the agreement, it must REALLY be awful.
Like I said a person can read anything into that they want....and many do. Have you talked to Rick about why he signed?
Did Rick have to sell a Corvette when he signed the agreement?
I think they made him give up the LeMans car. A Corvette next year I heard.
Amazing how you judge this without any testimony or evidence presented by the defendant. If it was that much of a slam dunk the other teams would have been all over joining this litigation. The judge may very well rule that certain provisions of NASCAR policy violate antitrust law. But the close participation of team owners within the structure of the sport (and rule making) could limit injunctions and damages.
“Predatory business practices” will be easy to prove.
Great write up. Along those highlighted lines. Some teams have no problem with their driver racing in other racing series and they do. Another point about the lawyers hit parade about unfair monopoly. They said because Nascar doesn't allow other series to race on their tracks? 1. Who wants to? Late models on a 1.5? or a road course? Are you kidding me. These lawyers prove they don't know much about auto racing, but like many fans they are always trying to compare it to stick and ball and Jordan is trying to make it a stick and ball business model IMO.
