Both of them will be gone soon if things don't improve. There aren't any drivers that stay with the top tier teams that consistently run in the mid to lower 20's for very long. Both of the true rookies this year, Kyle and Austin are in position to be in the chase at mid season quiet as that is kept. Stenhouse and Patrick aren't even close. The clock is definitely ticking, Stenhouse might get a reprieve if Carl jumps ship, but it won't surprise me if he gets let go whenever his contract is up. Sooner or later lil Dani's star power novelty will fade, you can't all of a sudden acquire a talent to drive, the competition in cup is way too tough to win by a great pit crew and car alone. Although when there are fluttering signs of life, the press hammers it for all it is worth.