Big changes coming

NasNYG567 said:
Oh of course, I wish the rules wouldn't change all that much. But I view NASCAR as a business and I totally understand what they're trying to do with getting the younger audience in and I truly appreciate them reaching out to my demographic even if it's ill fated.
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If turning Nascar into an offshoot of the WWE causes it to be successful and attract younger fans I approve. The most important thing for Nascar is to attract a younger audience that will stick with the series and cause it to grow because if that doesn't happen soon Nascar will continue to get older and older each year.
 
Skoalbandit33 said:
When you are at the helm you are responsible for everything that goes on within the company. The buck stops with Brian.
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I get that, I'm just saying he didn't come up with it. I think if it was Brian coming up with this years changes we would have seen the caution clock outright in cup without the segments and stuff.
 
Nascar is now the auto racing version of motorcross.. that's the new target, I believe. Especially with Monster.

A segmented Daytona 500? Kidding me?
 
jaqua19 said:
Nascar is now the auto racing version of motorcross.. that's the new target, I believe. Especially with Monster.

A segmented Daytona 500? Kidding me?
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The big races along with some others won't be changed
 
The Daytona 500, The Charlotte 600 and The Southern 500 should be kept sacred no matter what happens. Indianapolis is overrated and boring as far as I'm concerned.
 
Why not just award bonus points at the end of the race for top 10 finishes? Or award them for being in the top 10 at certain known points in the race without stopping the action creating these "segments"? I don't want to see cars parked. I don't want to see planned cautions. I don't understand why we're over- complicating things to this degree.
 
ToyYoda said:
One thing I do like about this is if you have a dominant car all race and blow a motor or get caught up in a wreck with like 20 laps to go, it won't totally kill you like it does now. You'll get some reward for leading those early and mid race laps.
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Racing is a tough business ............participation trophies are not needed
 
The steroid era ruined baseball for me because it destroyed the record book. This will destroy NASCAR for me because it destroys the sanctity of what goes on on the track. I can abide the Chase, and all of Brian's other BS. But one common thread that stretches back to 1948 is that the guy who is the fastest to the finish line wins the race. With the free catch-up system proposed here, that is over, as is me watching this series.
 
NJJammer said:
While I think that Brian should step down (or be removed), I believe we're blaming the tail instead of the dog. Brian is beholden to the networks from whom he successfully negotiated billions of dollars from (he deserves lots of credit for that) and now those networks are demanding a better return on their investment due to sagging ratings. Brian is observant enough to realize that fans are no longer showing up at the track like they did (Dover attendance is roughly half from a decade ago) and the main moneymaker for him and NASCAR is TV. At this point he will do almost anything to satisfy the networks because if he doesn't, the gravy train will end in less than a decade and NASCAR will be a shell of what it is now. FOX/NBC don't care about the long-term viability of the sport. They want ratings because they now realize they overpaid (by a gross margin) for the TV rights. They will literally do anything to recoup some of the billions they spent and Brian is their puppet. Never forget who is really pulling the strings.
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I disagree because.......... this train was derailed long before these TV contracts. NBC and FOX
bought a broken series and they have done nothing to help fix it. The people they hired (jeff excluded)
are old farts and every racing form concurs the fans don't like them. The producers are NOT race fans and so have to idea what to show on the screen.
 
AdoubleU24 said:
If this was Monster's doing then they can already see themselves to the damn door for all I care.

This was probably their bargaining tool.
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If this was Monsters doing them I'm gonna start buying Rehabs by the case. I can't wait to see what else is in store as far as the boys have at it culture goes.
 
cheesepuffs said:
If this was Monsters doing them I'm gonna start buying Rehabs by the case. I can't wait to see what else is in store as far as the boys have at it culture goes.
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And, you'll be able to choose your own entire section at the track soon!
 
They need to quit trying to reinvent the wheel and go back to the basics. It's because of dumb changes that the sport has declined. So what is their answer? More drastic changes of course! :rolleyes:

The only consistency with Nascar anymore is change. "The more things change the more they stay the same"
 
29-4 said:
Perhaps you are the fan NASCAR should appeal to then!:D
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All my local tracks suck. Loudon (been twice, never again), Dover, Pocono. I'd go to the Glen but probably for the Indy race not the Cup race. I could go to the 500 next month and stay at somebody's house for free but even that isn't enough incentive to pay to be there when TV will suffice.

I feel like motorsports are just better on TV.
 
cheesepuffs said:
All my local tracks suck. Loudon (been twice, never again), Dover, Pocono. I'd go to the Glen but probably for the Indy race not the Cup race. I could go to the 500 next month and stay at somebody's house for free but even that isn't enough incentive to pay to be there when TV will suffice.

I feel like motorsports are just better on TV.
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Of course, they are simply because of replay,
 
Nitro Dude said:
I disagree. A lot of people look for any reason to complain even if they don't know what they are complaining about.
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Well, I know what I'm talking about. I've been a fan before I was 10 years old. I remember Riverside and Ontario.
This sport is a fraction of what it once was. If these circus changes are to become the norm then I'll find something else to to with my DVR.
NASCAR becomes more irrelevant with each Brian France year. This will be my last year buying NASCAR seats.
 
BobbyFord said:
Well, I know what I'm talking about. I've been a fan before I was 10 years old. I remember Riverside and Ontario.
This sport is a fraction of what it once was. If these circus changes are to become the norm then I'll find something else to to with my DVR.
NASCAR becomes more irrelevant with each Brian France year. This will be my last year buying NASCAR seats.
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I can agree with that. A lot of the motorsports series are a fraction of what they use to be. Now there is a Hooters where the Ontario track use to be.
 
I only watch when the races are on broadcast TV. No way in hell am I going to pay $30 a month extra to receive NBCSN and FS1/2.
 
I may be the outlier here, but I'm actually kind of looking forward to this, in a way? Don't get me wrong, I'm not entirely thrilled by the concept of changing the way races play out, however I am incredibly interested to see what the teams come up with regarding strategy to try and maximize points. If (and this is a big if, I realize) they break the segments up intelligently, this concept actually might open the door to some wild strategy plays and some seriously hard racing much earlier in the events. That to me, is interesting, especially in the context of watching these guys drive harder early in a race, especially as the Chase bubble tightens. I will say though, the "win and you're in" thing needs to go if the rumored changes are true, because NASCAR will still retain the stupidity of having a driver win early in the season and then coast to The Chase, which I really think has contributed to a lot of the boring races we've seen recently. Ideally, I'd like to see The Chase go away altogether, but I won't waste any further energy tilting at that particular windmill.
 
MarcWiley said:
I may be the outlier here, but I'm actually kind of looking forward to this, in a way? Don't get me wrong, I'm not entirely thrilled by the concept of changing the way races play out, however I am incredibly interested to see what the teams come up with regarding strategy to try and maximize points. If (and this is a big if, I realize) they break the segments up intelligently, this concept actually might open the door to some wild strategy plays and some seriously hard racing much earlier in the events. That to me, is interesting, especially in the context of watching these guys drive harder early in a race, especially as the Chase bubble tightens. I will say though, the "win and you're in" thing needs to go if the rumored changes are true, because NASCAR will still retain the stupidity of having a driver win early in the season and then coast to The Chase, which I really think has contributed to a lot of the boring races we've seen recently. Ideally, I'd like to see The Chase go away altogether, but I won't waste any further energy tilting at that particular windmill.
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This is well put, I'm very intrigued to see how races play out now
 
Jeff Burton called this format "absurd" and ridiculed it on ESPN in 2007 when they proposed it. I'm guessing he'll have come around by the time he comments on NBC.



"Second largest sport", lol. Those were the days.
 
gnomesayin said:
Jeff Burton called this format "absurd" and ridiculed it on ESPN in 2007 when they proposed it. I'm guessing he'll have come around by the time he comments on NBC.

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This is a little different though. The new system merely awards bonus points for top-10 segment positions, but still awards full race points/purse/etc for the winner at the end of the thing. I'm sure we'll know in more detail tomorrow, but that's how I'm reading what's been reported so far.
 
MarcWiley said:
This is a little different though. The new system merely awards bonus points for top-10 segment positions, but still awards full race points/purse/etc for the winner at the end of the thing. I'm sure we'll know in more detail tomorrow, but that's how I'm reading what's been reported so far.
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Fair enough, I'll concede that. NASCAR often works incrementally and opens the door to bigger shifts later. I believe this is just entirely the wrong direction and addresses a problem that wouldn't exist if races weren't already overly manipulated.
 
gnomesayin said:
Fair enough, I'll concede that. NASCAR often works incrementally and opens the door to bigger shifts later. I believe this is just entirely the wrong direction and addresses a problem that wouldn't exist if races weren't already overly manipulated.
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100% agree. The racing has more to do with the cars than anything else. Make the cars harder to drive, the racing will get better. It's been proven time and time again.
 
Some of the better races in years past have been when rain is in the forecast and everyone races a little harder early on. If they did not stop the cars and just awarded points at different intervals I would have no problem with this. Stopping a race for no reason is just not racing
 
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