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The point standings would indicate that Roush is #1, not Hendrick.
The point standings would indicate that Roush is #1, not Hendrick.
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
I think Teddy is just trying to get me to respond to Penske being at the bottom.
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Right on but I'd say Penske is doing just fine.
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
There's just one competitve Dodge in NASCAR, and that guy has the most wins. Give him some gas pickup, and he could have 5 by now. It just shows how good Brad and Paul are. There's a chance Brad wins the championship for Dodge this year, and for Ford next year. Either way, he'll be Fords top driver in no time.
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And I could've went to the moon had my mother been allowed to fly when pregnant. As for the championship, alot of things have to change on the #2 team to manage that. Consistancy being the 1st.
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
Yeah, all the talking heads are saying the same thing about consistancy. Have they all forgotten last years champion limping into the chase and having a 15th and 25th place finish in the last 10? 2 of the 3 races where Brad had fuel issues resulted in 32nd and 36th place finishes. If I remember correctly, Brad was leading Vegas on that late restart when his car wouldn't go. That alone explains the 29 points he gave up to 5th place. Throw in his getting wrecked at Daytona, and I see a team that isn't very far off at all.
Matthew2470
It's not that serious
"if"
Jeff Gordon wishes he had Brad's "bad luck."
Jeff Gordon wishes he had Brad's "bad luck."
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Gordon_Fan24
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LOL...aint that the truth!
I am just glad that the 24 seems to have turned the luck around a little over the past few weeks...some very good tracks coming up for Gordon, hopefully he can knock out a win and get consistent and let the chips fall where they will.
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FlFlash
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I'm looking for the Entire Hendricks Organization to have a good week at Daytona!!! Especialy that 88 car
Matthew2470
It's not that serious
The one that really hurt was Dover. Even Jimmie admitted that the 24 was faster than the 48. When JG said there was an issue I wanted to break stuff.
And Martinsville...
And Fontana...
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
Martinsville was a comedy of errors for the 24. Not pitting for tires was the first mistake, which Jeff compounded by getting a terrible restart. Than he squeezed Bowyer on to the curb and got spun. He was lucky to finish 14th, which didn't hurt him in the points much.
dpkimmel2001
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Kerplunk.
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I'm looking for the Entire Hendricks Organization to have a good week at Daytona!!! Especialy that 88 car
I'm sure they'll finish 1-2-3-4 in media hype, as they always do.
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Come on now, Keselowski is no Tony Stewart but I guess we'll just have to wait and see. That's why they race 'em instead of just handing the cup out, right
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
Come on now, Keselowski is no Tony Stewart but I guess we'll just have to wait and see. That's why they race 'em instead of just handing the cup out, right
Tony sure got some help from the new kid in wiining those 2 fuel mileage races. Kicking the clutch like ole' Brad taught him.
Matthew2470
It's not that serious
The 10 car screwed up the race. Bowyer's typically idiotic dive bomb didn't help matters. But we are all geniuses when it comes to hindsight.
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ted@economy
in the interest of equal time
Actually , it would be pretty stupid just to rank the companies by points . That is already done . I was thinking more of the resurgence by MWR and the fall off by RCR and to a lesser extent the fall off by Gibbs . I am wondering how people see those changes . I think that you could easily make the case that RCR has dropped to the bottom . How high would you rate Penske ? I am not taking into account the number of cars that the team fields , more how they stack up against one another , in the pecking order .
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FlFlash
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ted@economy
in the interest of equal time
Very funny ,Flash . But are you giving RCR an edge over MWR for old times sake , or do you believe they still got it ?
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FlFlash
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RCR is a proven commodity! I'm not sold on MWR yet, they have to prove they can hang in there when the going gets tuff. I'll give them credit though they sure have things heading in the right direction....wonder if Bowyer brought them more than just driving talent?
Besides we all know that Childress is just holding down the fort in Cup! He's waiting for HIS drivers to get some experiance and be ready for Cup.
ted@economy
in the interest of equal time
Can't argue with any of that .It would be interesting to see a Ryan Newman head over there.
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FlFlash
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I'll admit though it pains me to have to rank RCR down in fourth Butt face it Harvick is the only driver they have anymore. Menard might get lucky again and sqeek into The Chase and Jeff Burton as nice a guy as he is has turned into a mid-pack racer.
As far as Penske dragging up the rear I'm afraid loosing Dog and getting ready to transfer to Dorf is going to effect their second half performance.....just where will they stand at Ford anyway???
Butt face it Harvick is the only driver they have anymore. Menard might get lucky again and sqeek into The Chase and Jeff Burton as nice a guy as he is has turned into a mid-pack racer.As far as Penske dragging up the rear I'm afraid loosing Dog and getting ready to transfer to Dorf is going to effect their second half performance.....just where will they stand at Ford anyway???
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So Keselowski teaches another driver how to save fuel, he wins the championship using those lessons and you're bragging about it
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
Sadly, RCR lost it's ability to compete for another championship on February 18th, 2001. Since Sr passed, RCR hasn't come close to another championship. 2011's 41 point deficit may seem close, but that's almost a full race back.
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
So Keselowski teaches another driver how to save fuel, he wins the championship using those lessons and you're bragging about it
I never Brag, but apparently the great Tony Stewart recognized that he needed Brads help to win the championship.
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I never Brag, but apparently the great Tony Stewart recognized that he needed Brads help to win the championship.
I see. What was it Keselowski did for him when he won the 1st one?
ted@economy
in the interest of equal time
Speaking of Tony . Does anyone think that Stewart Haas should be on the list ? And where would they place?
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FlFlash
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I never Brag, but apparently the great Tony Stewart recognized that he needed Brads help to win the championship.
I had heard that Brad had substantial input on Tony Winning his USAC Triple Crown Championship, IRL Championship, 2002 Cup Championship, 2005 Cup Championship and 2011 Cup Championship butt did he have anything to do with Tony Wining the 1987 World Karting Association Championship? Was Brad even born yet? Maybe a phone call from the diaper changing table sealed the deal for Tony?
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FlFlash
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SHR is just a branch of Hendrick so they rank right up there with them. ( except when Mr. Hendrick sends Tony the crappy motor
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Considering who the current Nascar champion is, maybe they should be #1.
ted@economy
in the interest of equal time
Maybe , but noone noticed they weren't on there.
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
Wow Flflash, where did you hear all that nonsense, and why did you believe it?
Brad kicked the clutch at Kansas and ran about 57 laps. DW said he's never heard of anyone doing that. Then, for the very first time in his career, Tony does the exact same thing in the chase and wins...twice. Do you REALLY think Tony came up with that technique all by himself?
Simple math kids. Simple math.
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FlFlash
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Sigh...Children appear to think the first time they ever heard of something is the first time it ever happened.
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
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Wow Flflash, where did you hear all that nonsense, and why did you believe it?
Brad kicked the clutch at Kansas and ran about 57 laps. DW said he's never heard of anyone doing that. Then, for the very first time in his career, Tony does the exact same thing in the chase and wins...twice. Do you REALLY think Tony came up with that technique all by himself?
Simple math kids. Simple math.
LOL. I'd say that most of us here who drive have coasted our vehicles down hill with the clutch in to save fuel, you silly boy.
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FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
Down hill?
Rolling through turns too? I'm sure this isn't the first time one driver emulated another, silly boys. In both his fuel mileage wins, Brad set the mark for laps under green on 1 tank. With all those years of in car footage and track experience, this is the first time we saw a driver use that technique. Maybe Tony knew all along, but decided to save it for after he turned 40.
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FlFlash
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Give it up FB, people been pushing in the clutch and coasting since that Dorf guy built the model T!
ted@economy
in the interest of equal time
It's your list...put 'em on there
No can do . We need a quorum of at least three votes to put them on
. So what position ?