Kyle Busch is 20 wins Away From Tying Richard Petty at 200.

FearThe4 said:
not really but the way Nascar is coving it these days and they are counting all his wins in all 3 series it would not shock me if they tried to make a big deal out of this when he does reach 200 and make Kyle the new King of Nascar.
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One of those Kyle Busch troll threads he talks about. SMDH. Get over it. Kyle won't win every remaining race. Probably.
 
kyle18fan said:
He raced 93 races and won 1 .............. that's a fact you can't change. The cup series is just another series ....... I watch them all and will sometimes attend the Xfinity race rather than the cup race.
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83 > 40 Cup wins, bro.

I can understand looking at numbers historically for someone like Ron Hornaday in trucks because he was dedicated to trucks. Sam Ard and Jack Ingram are on NASCAR's 50 greatest because everyone knew in BGN that those two and Tommy Houston, great driver as well, they were some of the greatest drivers to not get a real shot in Cup. A couple of starts here and there, but they knew as journeyman they decided to stay in those respected series. I could understand that, but Kyle's Xfinity and Truck wins don't mean anything as this point because everyone knows he's a racer and does a lot of great things on and off of the track. I would rather him be more of a Jr type of figure and run his team, occasionally make a start, but be the one behind the scenes doing work. At the end of the day, Kyle he loves to race, loves to win and is a fantastic driver. Just it becomes a constant issue when something like 2009 occurred, a FULL-TIME Cup driver winning a secondary tier championship.

That made no sense, but I see the system as more of a development driver type of thing with Modified, Trucks, Xfinity, and Cup. Some guys make a career out of each respected tree and I like the journeymen drivers, but I wonder what if they move up. It does not matter what I think at the end of the day, but I think it should be used as a development system to get to Cup. I get both sides, but it does not make any sense to me of dominating up and comers every week, does it really make those drivers better?
 
Kiante said:
83 > 40 Cup wins, bro.

I can understand looking at numbers historically for someone like Ron Hornaday in trucks because he was dedicated to trucks. Sam Ard and Jack Ingram are on NASCAR's 50 greatest because everyone knew in BGN that those two and Tommy Houston, great driver as well, they were some of the greatest drivers to not get a real shot in Cup. A couple of starts here and there, but they knew as journeyman they decided to stay in those respected series. I could understand that, but Kyle's Xfinity and Truck wins don't mean anything as this point because everyone knows he's a racer and does a lot of great things on and off of the track. I would rather him be more of a Jr type of figure and run his team, occasionally make a start, but be the one behind the scenes doing work. At the end of the day, Kyle he loves to race, loves to win and is a fantastic driver. Just it becomes a constant issue when something like 2009 occurred, a FULL-TIME Cup driver winning a secondary tier championship.

That made no sense, but I see the system as more of a development driver type of thing with Modified, Trucks, Xfinity, and Cup. Some guys make a career out of each respected tree and I like the journeymen drivers, but I wonder what if they move up. It does not matter what I think at the end of the day, but I think it should be used as a development system to get to Cup. I get both sides, but it does not make any sense to me of dominating up and comers every week, does it really make those drivers better?
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Kiante said:
83 > 40 Cup wins, bro.

I can understand looking at numbers historically for someone like Ron Hornaday in trucks because he was dedicated to trucks. Sam Ard and Jack Ingram are on NASCAR's 50 greatest because everyone knew in BGN that those two and Tommy Houston, great driver as well, they were some of the greatest drivers to not get a real shot in Cup. A couple of starts here and there, but they knew as journeyman they decided to stay in those respected series. I could understand that, but Kyle's Xfinity and Truck wins don't mean anything as this point because everyone knows he's a racer and does a lot of great things on and off of the track. I would rather him be more of a Jr type of figure and run his team, occasionally make a start, but be the one behind the scenes doing work. At the end of the day, Kyle he loves to race, loves to win and is a fantastic driver. Just it becomes a constant issue when something like 2009 occurred, a FULL-TIME Cup driver winning a secondary tier championship.

That made no sense, but I see the system as more of a development driver type of thing with Modified, Trucks, Xfinity, and Cup. Some guys make a career out of each respected tree and I like the journeymen drivers, but I wonder what if they move up. It does not matter what I think at the end of the day, but I think it should be used as a development system to get to Cup. I get both sides, but it does not make any sense to me of dominating up and comers every week, does it really make those drivers better?
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His Nationwide championship is legit ................. Juan Pablo drove F-1 cars but nobody cried about him racing the podunk Nascar boys :rolleyes:
Yep ...... Kyles record is amazing as hell
 
BobbyFord said:
Except that Cup, Xfin and Trucks are NASCAR's Pro Series'.
College football isn't Pro football.
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College football is the feeder to the big leagues.

Trucks and Xfinity in NASCAR is like AA and AAA baseball. You never see the likes of Jeter or whoever palin around the AAs smashing 20 HRs a week off of uand his fans gettin excited over it.
 
kyle18fan said:
Mighty nice little gift to his fans this weekend !!!! I watched every lap
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Haters probably went into vapor lock when Rowdy gave props to Rowdy Nation. I mean, he is supposed to be an a**hole. That doesn't fit with what assholes do. Kind of like we get something the rest of the world doesn't....because we do. I believe that everything is in place. Great car. Great team.....and a freakin' badass driver who is starting to believe that he will win every race instead of trying to figure out how he could possibly lose one. Go time.
 
DSquad48 said:
College football is the feeder to the big leagues.

Trucks and Xfinity in NASCAR is like AA and AAA baseball. You never see the likes of Jeter or whoever palin around the AA's smashing 20 HRs a week and his fans gettin excited over it.
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Revolutionary perspective. Be proud.
 
DSquad48 said:
College football is the feeder to the big leagues.

Trucks and Xfinity in NASCAR is like AA and AAA baseball. You never see the likes of Jeter or whoever palin around the AA's smashing 20 HRs a week and his fans gettin excited over it.
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Trucks and Xfin is Pro racing.
AAA and AA aren't Pro ball.
 
BobbyFord said:
Trucks and Xfin is Pro racing.
AAA and AA aren't Pro ball.
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Completely false. AA and AAA is a part of minor league baseball, which is professional baseball. Major leagues teams are associated with AA and AAA teams and use them as farms.

The analogy holds, if you're comfortable comparing racing with sticks and balls (I know some get queasy).
 
Revman said:
Haters probably went into vapor lock when Rowdy gave props to Rowdy Nation. I mean, he is supposed to be an *******. That doesn't fit with what assholes do. Kind of like we get something the rest of the world doesn't....because we do. I believe that everything is in place. Great car. Great team.....and a freakin' badass driver who is starting to believe that he will win every race instead of trying to figure out how he could possibly lose one. Go time.
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Rowdy knew we was watchin and cheering him on !!! He knew we needed a booster because the thrill of 2010 was winding down a bit ...... he always comes thru !!!

heads be popping like pimples :lol2::lol2:
 
kyle18fan said:
Rowdy knew we was watchin and cheering him on !!! He knew we needed a booster because the thrill of 2010 was winding down a bit ...... he always comes thru !!!

heads be popping like pimples :lol2::lol2:
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I need a fresh run at Champions gear. Got a plan this year to beat the bandwagoners.
 
DSquad48 said:
College football is the feeder to the big leagues.

Trucks and Xfinity in NASCAR is like AA and AAA baseball. You never see the likes of Jeter or whoever palin around the AAs smashing 20 HRs a week off of uand his fans gettin excited over it.
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If he doesn't do it how do you know his fans wouldn't be excited about it ? Hell ....... we just watched our favorite driver make history ...........AGAIN !!! damn right some of us are excited
 
DSquad48 said:
Completely false. AA and AAA is a part of minor league baseball, which is professional baseball. Major leagues teams are associated with AA and AAA teams and use them as farms.

The analogy holds, if you're comfortable comparing racing with sticks and balls (I know some get queasy).
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Minor league is MLB? No.
 
kyle18fan said:
If he doesn't do it how do you know his fans wouldn't be excited about it ? Hell ....... we just watched our favorite driver make history ...........AGAIN !!! damn right some of us are excited
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You're right, I'm sure some would. The rest would be upset by the traffic congestion and longer lines for hotdogs.
 
BobbyFord said:
Minor league is MLB? No.
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We're talking about professional baseball, right? MiLB is professional baseball. It's literally comprised of professional, MLB-affiliated, yet minor organizations that feed into the MLB. Much like Trucks and Xfinity have alliances with Cup teams and feed drivers and crew members into Cup.

Whatever the case, my main point is that the competition is obviously skewed toward the major leagues, Cup series, whatever, so the accomplishments earned in the top series should and will outweigh the accomplishments earned in the lower series.

But as @Revman has pointed out, I'm not breaking any new ground on this topic.
 
DSquad48 said:
You're right, I'm sure some would. The rest would be upset by the traffic congestion and longer lines for hotdogs.
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I hate the lines at cup races ............ rather attend the truck and Xfinity . the racing is as good or better anyway
 
DSquad48 said:
We're talking about professional baseball, right? MiLB is professional baseball. It's literally comprised of professional, MLB-affiliated, yet minor organizations that feed into the MLB. Much like Trucks and Xfinity have alliances with Cup teams and feed drivers and crew members into Cup.
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Yeah I'm not going with it. Except there's no Pro teams in minor ball.
I guess now that there's a playoff system NASCAR is just stick n ball. :(
 
Fun little bait thread came around at a wonderful time !!! its been fun but I am headed back to the basement now ...... my broom avatar will remain in place until Kyle wins again
 
kyle18fan said:
One win in 93 races is terrible dude !!! I have watched Johnson drive Xfinity cars and it isn't pretty. Of course there are folks that say "he didn't try to win" ...... apparently just made laps and wasted fuel.
No ... I can't do better ... I quoted the record book ........ 1 in 93 :idunno:


Kyle won 91 out of 337
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Judging Jimmie Johnson as a racer based on his Xfinity stats is kind of like judging Michael Jordan as an athlete based on his baseball stats.
 
kyle18fan said:
One win in 93 races is terrible dude !!! I have watched Johnson drive Xfinity cars and it isn't pretty. Of course there are folks that say "he didn't try to win" ...... apparently just made laps and wasted fuel.
No ... I can't do better ... I quoted the record book ........ 1 in 93 :idunno:


Kyle won 91 out of 337
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Pretty sure the team he drove for was a brand new team, he wasn't IN good equipment.

But if this is your logic to bring Jimmie down, and Kyle up, please.
 
kyle18fan said:
He raced 93 races and won 1 .............. that's a fact you can't change. The cup series is just another series ....... I watch them all and will sometimes attend the Xfinity race rather than the cup race.
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That was before he went to cup. Imagine what the stats would look like if he went back down. It would probably be similar.
 
Yogisd1 said:
That was before he went to cup. Imagine what the stats would look like if he went back down. It would probably be similar.
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All I think of is the 2015 Texas race where Brad Keselowski lead 315 laps, and had the field covered. 48 ran top 5, had a top 5 car at best. Then, in a 15 lap shootout, got a sniff for the lead on a restart and won the thing.

Had it been anyone else in 2nd, Brad would have won that race. 'cause that's what he's done through out his career..take vets and champions to school who all but have a race wrapped up in a superior car.
 
BobbyFord said:
It's a good thing because Jimmie sucked in an Xfin car :p
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Sure did

jaqua19 said:
Pretty sure the team he drove for was a brand new team, he wasn't IN good equipment.

But if this is your logic to bring Jimmie down, and Kyle up, please.
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Strictly quoting the record books :idunno:

Yogisd1 said:
That was before he went to cup. Imagine what the stats would look like if he went back down. It would probably be similar.
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I saw him race Xfinity at Phoenix . it was painful to see
 
This would still be a topic without Richard Petty's 200 wins. 200 is just the next benchmark for Kyle, after that it'll be 250 and so on. NBC and NASCAR would be dumb not to promote it.
 
Richard Petty's 200 wins aren't what most think they are, and this has been documented over and over again. If this board had been in existence back then, you would have some select members posting relentlessly about inspections, parity, and cheating.....kind of like they do now when Toyota goes on a run. That 200 number is out there to piss people off who are already pissed off when Kyle eclipses (See what I did there today?).
 
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