I don’t mind it.That is true, but not critical to being noticed, learning to race, etc. Cup drivers down there isn't making a huge difference in those guys' prospects. Who remembers second place?
Then to act like you did something incredible.....![]()
I don’t mind it.That is true, but not critical to being noticed, learning to race, etc. Cup drivers down there isn't making a huge difference in those guys' prospects. Who remembers second place?
Then to act like you did something incredible.....![]()
I seem to recall...I don’t mind it.
Shoot they just need one series then, throw em all into the deep end.It's not boxing. It's professional racing. Those are big boys in trucks and xfinity rides. Out here in the real world at tracks everywhere people have to race against guys who have unlimited resources. The world ain't fair and that's how it is.
he would be the greatest fighter of all time right? 300 or more wins. Fight them right out of high school. Can I get a WOOOO!I wonder how many fights Mike Tyson would have won if he fought in heavyweight, middleweight and lightweight? Probably be a record.
Then what's the point of a feeder series?It's not boxing. It's professional racing. Those are big boys in trucks and xfinity rides. Out here in the real world at tracks everywhere people have to race against guys who have unlimited resources. The world ain't fair and that's how it is.
Does this make a whole lot of sense?Absolutely.
Yes.Does this make a whole lot of sense?
Then what's the point of a feeder series?
I don't see how cup drivers competing in trucks and xfinity hampers or prevents any talent in those series from going to cup. This is all about a bunch of whiney fans that don't like cup drivers pursuing their passion in the lower series.
Ahhh…the good ol daysBecause without any limits, the Xfinity Series became unwatchable. It was watered down Cup Lite. Look at the last year (2010) before they started imposing restrictions, notice there wasn't a single fulltime Xfinity driver that had a win......
Ahhh…the good ol days![]()
It was some of the best stock car racing ever.Yep, those days were so "good" that NASCAR started coming up with new rules that have become even more restrictive as time has passed
It was some of the best stock car racing ever.
He sure did...kind of. I am sure there is a video somewhere.is this true?
I don’t drink sodaLOL
I bet you liked "New Coke" over Coca Cola Classic, didn't you
And from 2010-2012, Cup rookie classes were pretty much non-existent.Because without any limits, the Xfinity Series became unwatchable. It was watered down Cup Lite. Look at the last year (2010) before they started imposing restrictions, notice there wasn't a single fulltime Xfinity driver that had a win......
Yeah you're not wrong. Part of why NASCAR is on the upswing at the moment, you've got a great crop of young drivers going against the established vets. To see what Bell, Blaney, Bowman, Elliott & Larson are doing against the likes of Kyle Busch, Harvick, Keselowski, Logano, Hamlin and Truex is pretty damn impressive.And from 2010-2012, Cup rookie classes were pretty much non-existent.
Or cup drivers racing teenagers for easy wins.cup drivers pursuing their passion in the lower series.
Jesus, is there gonna be a Preece bash thread after tonight?Or cup drivers racing teenagers for easy wins.
Jesus, is there gonna be a Preece bash thread after tonight?
So the whining is based on the amount of wins? Good to know.Lamest "argument" ever. Apples and elephants.
How many Cup starts, wins, and championships does Ryan Preece have? How many career truck starts?
Undefeated Preece > BuschLamest "argument" ever. Apples and elephants.
How many Cup starts, wins, and championships does Ryan Preece have? How many career truck starts?

So the whining is based on the amount of wins? Good to know.
Cup driver in the lower series. Stick to the subject.So you must be implying that Ryan Preece and Kyle Busch are equal talents with equal accomplishments in NASCAR. OK then.
Don't play dumb. Context always matters
Cup driver in the lower series. Stick to the subject.
All Cup drivers are Cup drivers.Are all Cup drivers equal?
All Cup drivers are Cup drivers.
Keep moving the goalposts to justify the outrage.
What level of Cup drivers do you wish to eliminate from the lower series? Give me a number, what’s the silly cutoff point?Moving goalposts?
I guess you're admitting that Ryan Preece is Kyle Busch's equal. Good to know.
Do you want to just eliminate the good Cup drivers and let the lessers sandbag? What’s your ultimate goal?
What level of Cup drivers do you wish to eliminate from the lower series? Give me a number, what’s the silly cutoff point?![]()
So, everyone is forced to adhere to the guidelines set by NASCAR with regard to how many lower series races a Cup driver is permitted to race.The limits exist for a reason. Nobody cares if Ryan Preece, with 0 cup wins to his name, wants to enter a truck race. A lot of people care when one of Cup's best drivers, with over 1,000 NASCAR starts, two Cup titles, and 60 Cup wins, tries to run half the minor league schedule in elite equipment. Pretending like you don't understand the difference is beyond silly.
The ultimate goal has already been achieved. Cup drivers are now limited to a half dozen Xfinity/Trucks starts a year. I'm fine with that, regardless of which drivers choose to participate in the lower series.
So, everyone is forced to adhere to the guidelines set by NASCAR with regard to how many lower series races a Cup driver is permitted to race.
Accept NASCAR’s ruling or continue to squeak.
Please be consistent in your squeak and apply the same fake rule to all Cup drivers or provide your theory on what level of Cup driver should be given preferential allowances to run in the lower series.
Zero wins, three wins, fifty wins; what’s the allowable cutoff?
I can handle it. Your explanation failed.I'm not "squeaking" about anything. I accept and appreciate NASCAR's restrictions.
You asked where the outrage was for Preece winning and why there isn't a bash thread. I simply explained why there's a difference. Sorry you can't handle that.
0 wins, 2 cup starts for the cutoffZero wins, three wins, fifty wins; what’s the allowable cutoff?

I can handle it. Your explanation failed.
What’s the cutoff point? You keep failing to answer.
NASCAR set the cutoff point, yet some people still complain.