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The "good old days" ??
I read somewhere today, maybe Jayski, that the contract was $18 million a year.
Even better. Seeing your organization lose a sponsor is a high price.
I read somewhere today, maybe Jayski, that the contract was $18 million a year.
Everybody believes in cheating if it helps them win and they don't get caught.Well, Mikey did think cheating was ok, and that's a differing view for sure.
Even better. Seeing your organization lose a sponsor is a high price.
That's a hard lesson learned. I hate when my lessons cost thousands, let alone 18 million.Even better. Seeing your organization lose a sponsor is a high price.
I was off a little.Even better. Seeing your organization lose a sponsor is a high price.
No, more like a $30 million at the least penalty, and at the most $42 millionMWR got a $15 million fine. That's a good warning to other teams.
It was because he was acting like a flippin' jerk, pulling crap like smashing a custom made Sam Bass Les Paul. No class.I remember a year or two ago Kyle Busch had a controversy going on. I don't remember what it was about but I do remember a lot of fans were wanting M&M'S to drop him and JGR. M&M'S held their ground and stood behind them and now they have a real good shot at winning a championship this year. I type this while I'm sitting here snacking on a bag of M&M'S.
I think the bigger picture is that not only does this really hurt MWR but this hurts NASCAR as a sport. NASCAR needs companies like NAPA to survive. To have them pull the plug will hurt a lot of people directly and indirectly. What they do in the future remains to be seen, but it sure looks like there will be people out of jobs as a result of this.
If MWR goes belly up because the sponsors run away it's not going to help anything in the garage. Very few people are looking to start teams in the Cup series these days, and of the few even fewer are able to do what MWR has done in such a short time. They have been successful in engaging fans and sponsors in new and unique ways.
Ultimately I'm of the opinion that the more stable and competitive teams there are, the better the racing will be. Do I like Mikey? Not one bit, as a matter of fact I think he's an assclown. However I respect what he's done with his team and I think the sport is better off with more teams that can contend and win races.
He showed his TRUE colors last November with the "RETARD" comment.....I used to respect Clint Bowyer but not anymore. He could wreck out every week and I'd be okay with it. Honestly, I lost respects for him last year with the way he kept taking cheap shots at Jeff Gordon. I'm not a Gordon fan by any means but he finally snapped. Bowyer's showing his true colors now and I don't like it.
I remember a year or two ago Kyle Busch had a controversy going on. I don't remember what it was about but I do remember a lot of fans were wanting M&M'S to drop him and JGR. M&M'S held their ground and stood behind them and now they have a real good shot at winning a championship this year. I type this while I'm sitting here snacking on a bag of M&M'S.
Na-na-na NAPA No How, NAPA No How!
I'm liking the SHR rumors...More like NAPA bye now, bye bye now.
I'm liking the SHR rumors...
Whew, talking about poor Truex, 2 wins in 10 years. averages 3 top fives a year? If he does loose his job, it might be tough to find another one in cup. those are similar to Montoya stats and look where he is. gone
No, more like a $30 million at the least penalty, and at the most $42 million
I haven't seen anything on this, source?5-Hour is leaving too and going to another team. This is a pretty big deal and could open the door to a bunch of big sponsors leaving the "entertainment racing" business. Don't forget about the "morality clause" all sponsor contracts have. Receiving a corporate "black eye" while innocently competing in a "sport" where cheating is making big headlines is enough to give them an out if they decide they want out. NAPA was a big one, full car for all 36 races. Hard to make up that loss, especially if others follow. No one, no matter how many cars you have is immune to the morality clause, even if your's had no role in it
5-Hour is leaving too and going to another team. This is a pretty big deal and could open the door to a bunch of big sponsors leaving the "entertainment racing" business. Don't forget about the "morality clause" all sponsor contracts have. Receiving a corporate "black eye" while innocently competing in a "sport" where cheating is making big headlines is enough to give them an out if they decide they want out. NAPA was a big one, full car for all 36 races. Hard to make up that loss, especially if others follow. No one, no matter how many cars you have is immune to the morality clause, even if your's had no role in it
I haven't seen anything on this, source?
I agree. I just get the feeling that Funiture Row wants to use their own money and call their own shots, instead of some big buck company coming in and telling them we're in charge now.If I had my druthers it would be Truex and Napa to the 78. Just like Napa Truex can get out of his contract anytime he wants because of this MWR mess.
5-Hour is leaving too and going to another team. This is a pretty big deal and could open the door to a bunch of big sponsors leaving the "entertainment racing" business. Don't forget about the "morality clause" all sponsor contracts have. Receiving a corporate "black eye" while innocently competing in a "sport" where cheating is making big headlines is enough to give them an out if they decide they want out. NAPA was a big one, full car for all 36 races. Hard to make up that loss, especially if others follow. No one, no matter how many cars you have is immune to the morality clause, even if your's had no role in it
Me also IF they make Michael own up to everything.I don't want to see MWR go under over this. I hope 5 and Aarons stay put.
At least they would have an honest car owner, not one of these sugar coating liars. Tony sugar coats nothing.I'm liking the SHR rumors...
I'm liking the SHR rumors...
Yep, they gone.4 hours ago...
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Yep, they gone.
We might also be missing the boat on what really happened here. How can we be sure it was team orders handed down from MWR management? Could it have originated from an overzealous TRD rep, perhaps a TRD rep with his own office at MWR bent on packing the Chase field with as many Toyotas as they can get in.
That is pretty much all you can do unless you can find an "out" that is written in the contract to jump early. I think it is going to get ugly, losing TV coverage and negative publicity is a tipping point as they like to say in the board rooms with bean counters present.Where did you hear this? Last I heard they would wait until the season is over.
That is pretty much all you can do unless you can find an "out" that is written in the contract to jump early. I think it is going to get ugly, losing TV coverage is a tipping point as they like to say in the board rooms with bean counters present.
Or NAPA go now. N-N-N-N-NAPA go now.More like NAPA bye now, bye bye now.