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slice....a link is..author...publication...date. ......goes back ta library cards !
if ya lookin for a web "link in ya lap".....that's a hyperlink .
NASCAR considering radical changes to playoff system
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slice....a link is..author...publication...date. ......goes back ta library cards !
if ya lookin for a web "link in ya lap".....that's a hyperlink .
ToyYoda
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Logano is a Patriots fan, if you need someone to root for.I am not a football fan, and had picked no team to root for.......... Until the first play... Then it was Seattle all the way lmao....... "Oh, we're starting now?!" Lolololol
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Sounds good to me... Better than Green Bay from what I saw tonight lol
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Basis remains the same....... In case u didn't get it
i get it .........question is ....do you ?
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Lol well yeaaaaah
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...of course I get my sarcasm
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Plus.... We're on the internet dude... Not at the library... A link is a link lol
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Green Bay??
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good !
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Too bad for you, wasting your time.
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KevinWI
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Shocked by this, Brian's check must not of cleared this month. DW is usually a mouthpiece for NASCAR.
DW says he would hate new Chase format.
DW says he would hate new Chase format.
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Pff.. okay Mr fair weather fan.
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Mopardh9
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Wow dude....I'm far from a fair weather fan, I've been watching nascar for almost 50 years, how long have you been following it?
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ToyYoda
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111 million people watched the Super Bowl last night. I don't think this new Chase format is gonna get you there, Brian.
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note....most a' those tuned in for entertainment.....not football ! ha!
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I'd say the number tuning into the 500 won't be much smaller. Maybe that's part of the problem.. put more big name races later in the year.
IMO, they got neither
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Daytona will only have about 13% of the viewership that the Super Bowl had. There is no comparison between the two.
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Yep. Last year's 500 had 16.7 millions viewers and was the most-watched since 2008. So unless 80 million people start watching NASCAR this year , they won't be close to the Super Bowl.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way...s-hit-5-year-high-viewership-spikes-in-cities
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Wow eh... isn't it the 2nd most watched sporting event? Guess by a long shot eh? Wow
dpkimmel2001
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The Daytona 500 came in 16th last year of all sporting events broadcast in the U.S. It primarily beat out by the NFL, NCAA Final Four, a couple NCAA Bowl games and the NBA finals.
info from sportsmediawatch.com
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Wow... but then again I'm going off something I heard some one say years ago... lol
FLRacingFan
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Judging by the conference championship game numbers, most did not tune in for the entertainment. 55.9 million for 49ers-Seahawks, 51.3 million for Broncos-Patriots.
ToyYoda
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Late in the season, NBC aired a game between the Giants and Redskins, two teams that didn't have a chance in hell of making the playoffs. That game drew 15.8 million viewers. Essentially, a meaningless NFL game had almost as many viewers as NASCAR's biggest race of the year. Just shows how far away Brian France is from getting his NFL-type viewership numbers.
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StoneTown
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But that's true for all sports in America that aren't the NFL. They all get crushed.
2013 NBA Finals Game 7 with LeBron James -- gets beat by regular season NFL games.
2013 MLB World Series final game - gets beat by regular season NFL games.
2013 NHL Stanley - gets crushed by regular season NFL games.
The only thing that beats NFL regular season games are NFL playoff games and, once every 4 years, the Summer Olympics.
The Winter Olympics do excellent ratings, too, but in 2010 only the Opening Ceremony beat all NFL regular season games, and even then just barely.
Nobody is remotely close to the NFL in terms of popularity. And they haven't been for a long time.
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So, with that said why does Brian France think he can do what no other major sport can and compete with the NFL? IMO, his ego and leadership will lead the sport to new lows. He may be looking up to the NHL in a couple years.
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Even among non-NFL events NASCAR is a good deal behind other sports. The only two NASCAR events ranked in the top 50 of non-NFL sporting events in viewership last year were the Daytona 500 (#8, 16.65 million) and the Subway Fresh Fit 500 at Phoenix (#41, 9.12 million).
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I wonder how many of those people watched the whole game or even half of it.
HoneyBadger
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What are we talking about though? Dozens of March Madness games? Dozens and dozens of college bowl games? Dozens of NBA Playoff games? A dozen MLB Postseason games?
Comparing average NASCAR races, most of which televised on cable, to what is likely countless championship and playoff games, most of which televised on national broadcast television, isn't exactly fair. Furthermore, it exemplifies why NASCAR needs a playoff.
ToyYoda
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I'm sure some people bailed once Seattle blew it open. Not 100 million of them, though.
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Has it been actually said by Nascar that they are making the changes to compete with the NFL? Or is that what all of the doomsday fans are assuming because Nascar is trying to gain viewers? I havent seen it said by anyone in NASCAR that the reason behind the change is to compete with the NFL. Nobody is going to compete with the NFL in terms of ratings. They havent for years. I just think NASCAR is trying to rebrand itself a little bit and come off as a little more flashy and relavant to what 99.9% of sports fans are used to seeing in their sports. My only issue with the new format is the one race for a Championship. I think it provides a ton of drama, but I would argue that it doesnt make sense for the 13th-16th chase qualifiers to have 3 races to advance and the guys who showed the consisteny throughout the season by getting in the chase either by way of points or a win and top 30 finish in points and then either stringing together 9 solid races to advance round to round or win in each round to advance and be one of the final four only get 1 race to determine the Champion.
This is similar to awarding a wild card team a home game against a division winner in other sports. There needs to be a reward for winning. There is, you get in or advance. Im ok with that. There needs to be a reward for being consistent and being in the top 15 in points. There is for the most part. Unfortunately being consistent throughout the chase is only rewarded by having a chance at a one race raceoff so to speak. I would rather the first 4 drivers be knocked out after 1 race. It accomplishes 2 things. It trims the fat immediately. If you are a race winner, but you finsihed 23rd in points you have 1 shot to finish in the top 12 of the chase contenders or win to advance to the next round. You shouldnt have 3 opportunities to advance in that situation. I would just have the race playoff like Baseball does with the additional wild card team. You trim it to 12 with 9 races to go and then use the three race format. The final four has 3 races to show who is the most consistent and that crown the Champion. They earn it by getting in and then advancing throught he rounds.
It kills the drama of a one off for the title and thats what NASCAR is looking for so they wont do it, but it seems more fair to reward the guys who get to the final four the opportunity to have a bad race and still win it not the guys that might squeak in and be 23rd in points.
This is similar to awarding a wild card team a home game against a division winner in other sports. There needs to be a reward for winning. There is, you get in or advance. Im ok with that. There needs to be a reward for being consistent and being in the top 15 in points. There is for the most part. Unfortunately being consistent throughout the chase is only rewarded by having a chance at a one race raceoff so to speak. I would rather the first 4 drivers be knocked out after 1 race. It accomplishes 2 things. It trims the fat immediately. If you are a race winner, but you finsihed 23rd in points you have 1 shot to finish in the top 12 of the chase contenders or win to advance to the next round. You shouldnt have 3 opportunities to advance in that situation. I would just have the race playoff like Baseball does with the additional wild card team. You trim it to 12 with 9 races to go and then use the three race format. The final four has 3 races to show who is the most consistent and that crown the Champion. They earn it by getting in and then advancing throught he rounds.
It kills the drama of a one off for the title and thats what NASCAR is looking for so they wont do it, but it seems more fair to reward the guys who get to the final four the opportunity to have a bad race and still win it not the guys that might squeak in and be 23rd in points.
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mreed
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You're right.
nascar has never said they're trying to compete with the NFL in terms of ratings or popularity.
It's just a guess by the "doomsday fans".
But considering nascar's new way of determining their champion closely mirrors he way the NFL does it, I'd say it's a pretty good guess.
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StoneTown
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What are you talking about? Nascar isn't saying they are gonna be equal to or beat the NFL. The only person that goes around saying they can beat the NFL is UFC Prez Dana White. But his job is to say crazy things to promote fights.
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You really have to lay off the Kool-Aid
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Yeah, Nascar is well behind the top team sports in America. Everybody knows that. This isn't a new thing.
If you compare top events then the top NFL, College football, NBA, College basketball, and MLB all draw more viewers than the top Nascar event.
Most people aren't Nascar fans. Motorsports are a niche sports.
Of course, Nascar peaks higher than horse racing, golf, NHL, soccer, tennis, UFC, and boxing. A lot of other niche sports would love to have as much mainstream acceptance as Nascar.
Nothing shameful about being a successful niche sport. Obviously Nascar is always trying to grow and get more mainstream fans. So is every other sport.
NHL launched the Winter Classic and all these outdoor games to attract new fans. Golf added a playoff system just like Nascar, the Fedex Cup. Fedex Cup has been mostly a failure as golf fans mainly just care about the majors.
In many ways, every league except the NFL is a niche sport in modern America. There are so many TV shows and movies and sports on TV. There is so much time spent on videogames and the internet. Audiences are fragmented. That seems unlikely to change in the future. Every sport and league is trying to hold on to their fans and attract new ones.