NASCAR considering radical changes to playoff system

Just curious... why does it matter what channel it's on? You guys get the channel right? If so.. what's the problem?.. if not... contact your cable service provider :D
 
Only issue I can see here is that instead of "Are you faster than a redneck?", Pass time, and Dumbest stuff on wheels... it's other sports? I remember a time when people wouldn't shut up about how all Speed played was Barrett Jackson and Are you faster than a redneck.... whats the matter guys? Can't make up your minds?

......Once again... glad I'm in Canada :D
 
SlicedBread22 said:
Just curious... why does it matter what channel it's on? You guys get the channel right? If so.. what's the problem?.. if not... contact your cable service provider :D
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Only 36 million homes get FS2, for instance. Motorsports alone don't move the needle enough for providers to pick it up, and almost certainly not for whatever FOX is asking.

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SlicedBread22 said:
Only issue I can see here is that instead of "Are you faster than a redneck?", Pass time, and Dumbest stuff on wheels... it's other sports? I remember a time when people wouldn't shut up about how all Speed played was Barrett Jackson and Are you faster than a redneck.... whats the matter guys? Can't make up your minds?

......Once again... glad I'm in Canada :D
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The people at FOX botched SPEED too. It could have been a lot better than what it was right before the transition to FS1.
 
Kyle18fan said:
Almost seems that Nascae doesnt really care about the NW series much. Pretty obvious where the big bucks are coming from huh ??
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I wish they had at least given it a test run in one of the lower series beforehand.

The article also said they had been working on it for over three years. Really, it took over three years to divide the final ten races into three segments of three with a standalone championship race? I need to get myself one of those cushy jobs over in Daytona.
 
FLRacingFan said:
I wish they had at least given it a test run in one of the lower series beforehand.

The article also said they had been working on it for over three years. Really, it took over three years to divide the final ten races into three segments of three with a standalone championship race? I need to get myself one of those cushy jobs over in Daytona.
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3 years ????? LMAO
 
Kyle18fan said:
3 years ????? LMAO
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Yep.

Robin Pemberton, NASCAR’s vice president of competition, was as loose as I have ever seen, tossing brickbats at fellow officials and journalists alike.

Some of the more important explanations included the claim that the new Chase points system was more than three years in the making. Bonus points after Richmond count only in the first round of the Chase. Thereafter, pre-Chase bonus points will not be counted after each of the final resets.

Awarding more points to winners, as I would like, was considered and discarded because it might create a runaway situation. In other words, NASCAR didn’t want the Sprint Cup title to be clinched at any point before the series finale at Homestead-Miami Speedway.
 
maybe if ya fellers tho in tha timin a' long term contracts w/ fox/nbc ....it might make sense ?
prolly not w/ ya'll .
 
FLRacingFan said:
Yep.

Robin Pemberton, NASCAR’s vice president of competition, was as loose as I have ever seen, tossing brickbats at fellow officials and journalists alike.

Some of the more important explanations included the claim that the new Chase points system was more than three years in the making. Bonus points after Richmond count only in the first round of the Chase. Thereafter, pre-Chase bonus points will not be counted after each of the final resets.

Awarding more points to winners, as I would like, was considered and discarded because it might create a runaway situation. In other words, NASCAR didn’t want the Sprint Cup title to be clinched at any point before the series finale at Homestead-Miami Speedway.
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Oh my :laugh:
 
FLRacingFan said:
Only 36 million homes get FS2, for instance. Motorsports alone don't move the needle enough for providers to pick it up, and almost certainly not for whatever FOX is asking.
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Good points. I think MavTV claims to be up to about 27M or so now. They say they are targeting 50M in the next 2 years. Which seems reasonable if they really push this MavTV as Speed Lite angle. Which they appear to be doing. Obviously MavTV isn't gonna get the top tier like Nascar, but they are scooping up a lot of 2nd tier motorsports properties.

The problem, of course, is not that many people want to watch motorsports compared to other things on TV.
 
StoneTown said:
Good points. I think MavTV claims to be up to about 27M or so now. They say they are targeting 50M in the next 2 years. Which seems reasonable if they really push this MavTV as Speed Lite angle. Which they appear to be doing. Obviously MavTV isn't gonna get the top tier like Nascar, but they are scooping up a lot of 2nd tier motorsports properties.

The problem, of course, is not that many people want to watch motorsports compared to other things on TV.
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if only nascar could get long term big $$$ contracts w/ tv !
folks would really watch then !
 
StoneTown said:
Good points. I think MavTV claims to be up to about 27M or so now. They say they are targeting 50M in the next 2 years. Which seems reasonable if they really push this MavTV as Speed Lite angle. Which they appear to be doing. Obviously MavTV isn't gonna get the top tier like Nascar, but they are scooping up a lot of 2nd tier motorsports properties.

The problem, of course, is not that many people want to watch motorsports compared to other things on TV.
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right now the higher viewer statistics on the all sports Fox 1 and the very small Fox2, are what little Nascar and motosports they show. The stick n ball shows aren't doing squat, one of them had only 7,000 viewers watching. Yeah sometimes they have a program that gets decent ratings, but their bread and butter shows aren't cutting it. They have been unable to woo the herd over to more of the same...different channel
 
StandOnIt said:
right now the higher viewer statistics on the all sports Fox 1 and the very small Fox2, are what little Nascar and motosports they show. The stick n ball shows aren't doing squat, one of them had only 7,000 viewers watching. Yeah sometimes they have a program that gets decent ratings, but their bread and butter shows aren't cutting it. They have been unable to woo the herd over to more of the same...different channel
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Huh? FoxSports has been relying mainly on UFC. If you look at the actual ratings at FoxSports it's done best with UFC and the few times it had a good college football game. We'll see how the Nascar content does going forward. The other motorsports content hasn't been doing especially well. But I don't know what Fox's expectations are.

Fox Sports rights to top tier stick and ball sports has yet to kick in. That's why they launched mainly with UFC and Nascar content. And so far the UFC content has been their best performer.

Their MLB rights start this year. In 2015 their US Open golf rights start, also their MLS rights. They don't air NFL, NBA, or NHL content, not any games anyways.

Fox Sports hasn't had any top tier stick and ball sports to air. NBA TV rights contracts are up for negotiation soon and many expect Fox Sports to try and grab some NBA content.

Fox launched with two solid niche products - Nascar and UFC - and is adding more stick and ball sports in the coming years.

And their Nascar coverage won't fully expand until 2015 when Sprint and Nationwide races will air on Fox Sports 1.
 
FLRacingFan said:
Yep.

Robin Pemberton, NASCAR’s vice president of competition, was as loose as I have ever seen, tossing brickbats at fellow officials and journalists alike.

Some of the more important explanations included the claim that the new Chase points system was more than three years in the making. Bonus points after Richmond count only in the first round of the Chase. Thereafter, pre-Chase bonus points will not be counted after each of the final resets.

Awarding more points to winners, as I would like, was considered and discarded because it might create a runaway situation. In other words, NASCAR didn’t want the Sprint Cup title to be clinched at any point before the series finale at Homestead-Miami Speedway.
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The last paragraph is kinda bol****. Just because one driver can outclass the field doesn't mean that you can come along and just make it so that the driver can't get extra points for wins that him and his team worked all week for. I mean what is the point of winning? Even the drivers wanted wins to count for something other then on the resume. NASCAR has let down drivers and fans. The other paragraphs do make lots of sense.
 
StoneTown said:
Good points. I think MavTV claims to be up to about 27M or so now. They say they are targeting 50M in the next 2 years. Which seems reasonable if they really push this MavTV as Speed Lite angle. Which they appear to be doing. Obviously MavTV isn't gonna get the top tier like Nascar, but they are scooping up a lot of 2nd tier motorsports properties.

The problem, of course, is not that many people want to watch motorsports compared to other things on TV.
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They're getting more live events too, which is a must, and DirecTV just picked them up for SD last summer. They've made solid strides recently with the loss of SPEED.
 
MaxKansas said:
The last paragraph is kinda bol****. Just because one driver can outclass the field doesn't mean that you can come along and just make it so that the driver can't get extra points for wins that him and his team worked all week for. I mean what is the point of winning? Even the drivers wanted wins to count for something other then on the resume. NASCAR has let down drivers and fans. The other paragraphs do make lots of sense.
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Exactly, they don't want someone to be rewarded for being too consistent and winning too little, while simultaneously gaming the system so that one doesn't get rewarded for "winning too often". That's the definition of artificial.
 
not only has Nascar lost control of their product, sold their soul to the highest bidder, but now they are having to artificially create drama. I don't see how this is going to create more fans or add excitement or reward drivers winning more then one race. Same crap, 3 points for a win, but now sudden death..whoopie. Fans who are one driver fans can have less chance and less hope earlier in the playoffs to quit watching if their driver doesn't make the cut or is knocked out early. They take out any newcomer's chance who could possibly come in and win a race but can't run the whole season. That could have been interesting and added some drama. Another bad part is that every race they will have to explain this new format over and over. Damn, just let them race will ya.
 
You know.. a driver could blow up or wreck and finish dead last SIX TIMES in the chase and still win the cup if he wins the 4 other races......... :p
 
FLRacingFan said:
They're getting more live events too, which is a must, and DirecTV just picked them up for SD last summer. They've made solid strides recently with the loss of SPEED.
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I dont miss speed nearly as much as I thought I was going to. Direct tv has done a good job IMO
 
So if Matt Kenseth would have had a good race at Phoenix last year and not lost so many points none of this would have happened :(
F-1 had a champion with 4 or 5 races too go and nobody cared. I cant recall any recent "run away seasons" in cup at all.
 
Kyle18fan said:
So if Matt Kenseth would have had a good race at Phoenix last year and not lost so many points none of this would have happened :(
F-1 had a champion with 4 or 5 races too go and nobody cared. I cant recall any recent "run away seasons" in cup at all.
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I know every season I've watched has come to the final race for the most part... Mark Martin and JJ in 2009, Denny Hamlin in 2010.. Carl and Tony in 2011, BK in 2012 and then this season... unless you call a decent points lead after Phoenix "running away with it." LOL
 
SlicedBread22 said:
I know every season I've watched has come to the final race for the most part... Mark Martin and JJ in 2009, Denny Hamlin in 2010.. Carl and Tony in 2011, BK in 2012 and then this season... unless you call a decent points lead after Phoenix "running away with it." LOL
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Yep,I dont get why they are so worried about "runaways" when it hasnt happened.
 
SlicedBread22 said:
Only issue I can see here is that instead of "Are you faster than a redneck?", Pass time, and Dumbest stuff on wheels... it's other sports? I remember a time when people wouldn't shut up about how all Speed played was Barrett Jackson and Are you faster than a redneck.... whats the matter guys? Can't make up your minds?

......Once again... glad I'm in Canada :D
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You're biased because most of the dumbest stuff on wheels videos are imported from Canada. ;)
 
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