NASCAR Death Bed

Discussion in 'NASCAR chat' started by Bob Mac, Jun 11, 2017.

  1. Towmater

    Towmater Team Owner

    That's kind of the feeling that many people have about 3+ hours of a NASCAR race.
     
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  2. StandOnIt

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  4. Johali

    Johali Team Owner Contributor

    Different. :D
     
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  5. Towmater

    Towmater Team Owner



    AdvoCare is unlikely at this stage to return to @RoushFenway next year, which could turn into a full exit from NASCAR, per sources.
     
  6. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

    Maybe No Neck can bring some sponsorship and drive the 6.
     
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    rowdy3 Tire changer

  8. jws926

    jws926 Nissan Is Love, Nissan Is Life

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  9. Towmater

    Towmater Team Owner

    The temp was about the same during the Pats vs the Jaguar game. That stadium was sold out.
     
  10. jws926

    jws926 Nissan Is Love, Nissan Is Life

    Ok, fair enough.
     
  11. AuzGrams

    AuzGrams Team Owner

    Not sure what they expected. The Truck crowd didn't look completely awful and it was at night.

    Too many tracks with 2 dates.
     
  12. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    Pretty much par for the course this year. Not that SMI has much reason to care right now, as part of the agreement for the second race was that the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority would give the track an extra $1M per year, but eventually there will be a point where it matters. Races at Las Vegas have been pretty good recently, but obviously NASCAR's formula as a whole hasn't worked out as planned.
     
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  13. Towmater

    Towmater Team Owner

    At least there were a little more there than at the Indy race:



    vs.



    Still bad though
     
  14. BobbyFord

    BobbyFord Resident Gearhead Contributor

    It wasn’t that hot. Especially during the Friday night race.
    The stands were empty all weekend.
     
  15. AuzGrams

    AuzGrams Team Owner

    What irony that the only Night race of the weekend seemed to have better attendance than NXS.
     
  16. 4tires17gals

    4tires17gals Team Owner

    And also remember some in the stands are given free tickets. These fans either have a sponsorship connection or are family members of the drivers
     
  17. rd45usa

    rd45usa Days gone past

    2007 article that Jeff Gluck wrote. Intersting read.
     
  18. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

    Can still happen. Roush is the only one going in the opposite direction.
     
  19. BobbyFord

    BobbyFord Resident Gearhead Contributor

    This was probably the smallest crowd I’ve seen at LVMS in over a decade.
    Made getting out of the stands more enjoyable.
     
  20. Larsonfan1995

    Larsonfan1995 Team Owner

    A370637F-907F-43E6-BF8E-7CD0F807FD28.jpeg Huge difference between the crowds. Top being March, bottom being last Sunday. Looks 80% full in March.
     
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  21. AuzGrams

    AuzGrams Team Owner

    Agreed.

    I do think weather was the issue though. Looked like the Truck crowd was about normal, yet Cup and NXS was way below average.

    Hotel and ticket prices were way overpriced too or I would have endured the heat.
     
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  22. FenderBumper

    FenderBumper The "good old days" ??

    These tracks spending millions ripping out sections and buying multi-colored seats to make the stands look full from afar was a great investment. :owquitit:
     
  23. Towmater

    Towmater Team Owner

    So, does that place not have many seats? I ask as the Las Vegas Review-Journal stated in their article about the bad attendance that it was 10,000 less than in the spring.

    https://www.reviewjournal.com/sport...ast-attended-nascar-cup-race-in-lvms-history/

    "That number would make it the lowest-attended Cup Series race in track history, down an estimated 10,000 from spring’s Pennzoil 400. NASCAR’s policy is to not announce turnstile counts."
     
  24. StandOnIt

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    I think that ace reporter hired guys to go around and count people. Professional seat counters. The rest of the article's statistics he copy/pasted from other sources. ;)
     
  25. Larsonfan1995

    Larsonfan1995 Team Owner

    80k
     
  26. Towmater

    Towmater Team Owner

    Hey, at least NASCAR got some press. Course, per the usual, it was bad press. LMAO!
     
  27. StandOnIt

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  29. Go Panthers

    Go Panthers Team Owner

    Nascar has a shot at winning fans back. What might be happening in Nashville is a first step in that.

    Bring back short track racing, get rid of this playoff system and lets go racing.

    Fan will come back.
     
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  31. TexasRaceLady

    TexasRaceLady Admin/TimeOut Monitor Staff Member Contributor

    Maybe they should have a proof reader.
    I THINK it should be "excited" --- unless of course they mean "exited" as in left the building. :D
     
  32. Bobw

    Bobw Team Owner

    You caught that too huh? LOL
    My Dad was co-owner of a printing company. As a kid I did a lot of proof reading. Hundreds, if not hundreds of thousands. of pages.
    Not knowing doodilly was an asset he said as errors would jump off the page because it didn't look right. Whereas the brain in an adult would skip over. Guess he meant autocorrect! :)
     
  33. FearThe4

    FearThe4 Team Owner

    what Nascar needs is more short tracks and road courses and less mile and half tracks that would get the fans back.

    oh and get rid of the chase and go back to the best drivers being champion after the full season.
     
  34. Matthew2470

    Matthew2470 Filthy Casual

    I feel like the fact that over the past 3 year the 3 most popular drivers in NASCAR retired. It has caused myself and 3-4 others that I know to stop attending races and making less effort to watch the races on TV. I am reasonably certain that there are thousands of fans for whom this is also true. I realize that NASCAR was already trending downward but the cumulative effect of Jeff, Tony and Jr retiring has finally landed us where we are today.
     
  35. Yogisd1

    Yogisd1 Resident Retard

    That's the same thing they were saying when Petty, Pearson, Elliot, and others retired. If fans stopped going, or watching, because somebody retired, then they weren't really race fans to begin with. I've been watching for many years, and recognize drivers have their following, but the race is the thing, it's why we watch. In any top level racing, drivers come, and go, but the racing survives. Now that NASCAR is getting rid of the bean counters, things are going to improve.
     
  36. Candace66

    Candace66 Crew Chief

    I keep hearing this about short tracks. But they don't sell out either, and I've not noticed that viewership is higher for those races. :idunno: The days when Bristol was always sold out (and there were more seats back then) are gone.

    I agree about the Chase/playoffs. Adding the stage/playoff points was a way to award consistency throughout the season. And at least partly brought back points racing (oh, did I utter a profanity there?). ;)
     
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  37. AuzGrams

    AuzGrams Team Owner

    There is some truth to that. But NASCAR doesn't help themselves with playoffs, points changes, overabundance of cookie cutters.
     

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