NASCAR Death Bed

Discussion in 'NASCAR chat' started by Bob Mac, Jun 11, 2017.

  1. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Team Owner

    Dewar is the idiot that said most of NASCAR’s fans live in California. Phelps was bitching/blaming social media and the press for speaking of all the negatives surrounding Nsscar. A cockroach would have more on the go than Dewar and Brian combined so Phelps wins automatically. So far he has acted like a shill but time will tell if he can turn the ship around.
     
  2. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

    Not many back in the day had all those extras and I doubt if many in the future will.
     
  3. Truex_rox

    Truex_rox 19 looks better than ever.

    Fingers crossed. They were a championship-winning group of people, so you know they have outstanding credentials and will surely be snatched up somewhere.
     
  4. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    Dewar has been demoted to retweeting stuff/tweeting out emoji responses.
     
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  5. StandOnIt

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  6. Nitro Dude

    Nitro Dude Hauler Driver and Cylinder Head Maintenance

    I'm heading to Vegas next week for 5 days to race slot cars and I'm going to stay at South Point. I would love to stay there the week of the NASCAR race.
     
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  7. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    1/24 wing stuff?
     
  8. Nitro Dude

    Nitro Dude Hauler Driver and Cylinder Head Maintenance

    1/24 drag racing.
     
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  9. Ventisca

    Ventisca Team Owner Contributor

    What are the demographics for this type of event?
     
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  10. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    grandstand removals?
     
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  11. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Team Owner

    IDK if this is really deathbed stuff but it does show how desparate Nascar and the teams are for sponsorship dollars. The answer is always no unless you ask so hopefully something will become of this.
     
  12. rowdy3

    rowdy3 Crew Chief

    NHMS has removed more seats.
     
  13. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Team Owner

    There are many other tracks that need to reduce seating as well. The optics of race tracks with thousands of empty seats is bad. If the seats can’t be removed then at least cover them up
     
  14. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

    why? What is the big deal about empty seats? I go to the theater and 1/4 of all the seats are empty. I noticed in the new ones they have very few seats, I wonder why, other than space.
     
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  15. dpkimmel2001

    dpkimmel2001 Team Owner

    We will not be happy until every seat is occupied. I say we take out every single seat. Then, we force fans to bring their favorite lawn chair, bag chair, folding chair, whatever you want to call it. That way, there will never be an empty seat in the venue. No more empty seats to count. No more pulling out the heavy tarps, covering the stands, to fool the empty seat counters into believing that there is a larger crowd. It's a win win for everybody.

    The only other option that I can come up with is to buy a ticket. On the other hand, it's much easier to sit at home in our easy chairs expressing our concern for the lack of butts in the track-side seats. Ironic, isn't it?
     
  16. mack

    mack Team Owner

    Most all sports go through down times. NASCAR is there right now. It will take time to rebound. I'm thinking the unbridled optimism in the 90s- early 2000s, lead the track owners to overbuild. So now there are too many seats. The only remedy I can see is to lower ticket prices, and put on great races. NASCAR did their part with great racing last year for the most part. This stuff will work itself out over time. I'm not fretting over it myself.
     
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  17. Kiante

    Kiante Team Owner

    Btw, I'm glad that Fanatics deal fell through. Has anyone seen the hike in prices on Fanatics' website?

    Big company, but they have a monopolozation on the sports industry. Honestly, I can see why fans who attend events have not been a fan of purchasing products from them.
     
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  18. rowdy3

    rowdy3 Crew Chief

    Been going to races since 98 and every time I go I purchase merchandise. Hats have always been $25 and T-shirt’s went up by a $1 to 26.
     
  19. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

    Good point Mack. I have a bad memory but it seems to me that Nascar went to the large track
    venues hoping to make more money. These tracks were not built for Nascar, they were built for open wheel cars whose series tanked. Now those same tracks are tanking for Nascar.
     
  20. Kiante

    Kiante Team Owner

  21. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    already has it's own thread. :D
     
  22. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Team Owner

    I feel bad for anyone losing a job. At some point the people that pretend NASCAR’s downturn has had no impact will need to wake up.
     
  23. rowdy3

    rowdy3 Crew Chief

    Guess that means no naskart.
     
  24. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Team Owner

    I was shooting the breeze with a guy the other day and he was telling me what a positive it was that a couple of top teams were not returning to X. I thought he was joking at first but he was serious, Some people think down us up.
     
  25. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    other guy sure must have a perception problem. Blinded by his own agenda I guess and missed or twisted the part where the poster said "from a competator's standpoint" one less cupper and a car that won four races means more opportunity for higher finishing positions when it isn't racing. Nothing was said about two teams. Poor guy, must have been recovering from being gobsmacked. He sure works hard at it though, telling everybody what they already know. .:D
     
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  26. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Team Owner

    IDK what you are talking about but I will leave you to it. I know you think Nascar is healthy overall and you are looking forward to the start of the season.
     
  27. shark77

    shark77 Grab'n them by the *****!

    I guess they're saying less than 5% of it's workforce.
     
  28. Thegeneral23

    Thegeneral23 Team Owner

    Ticket prices dirt cheap lol.. nascar fans just don’t know how good they got it when it come to tickets haha.. how about this why don’t nascar just give em to y’all GEESH!!!
     
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  29. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    In some cases it is more than just the ticket price. Meals, lodging, and fuel costs way more than the ticket usually. Not everybody lives close to a track on the corner.
     
  30. mack

    mack Team Owner

    I have never watched NASCAR or any unsanctioned stock car racing because other people did or didn't watch it, or if the majority of the "in crowd" thought it was cool. I've watched it because I LOVE IT! Period. I couldn't give two squirts of crap if NASCAR is laying people off, that's life. That happens everyday in America. NASCAR, like most businesses didn't go into business to provide jobs and benefits, they went into business to provide entertainment and make a profit doing it. Businesses sometimes grow, peak and shrink. Especially entertainment businesses. Country music is not as popular as it was twenty years ago, neither is NASCAR or the NFL. So be it. It's still popular with me, and that's all that really matters to me. NASCAR will never be non existent. There's going to be NASCAR races for as far as I can see. Will they leave some venues? Perhaps. Will they return to some former venues? perhaps. Will they try new things? Perhaps. Do I think they're aware that things have changed, and they're working to remedy the problems? Yes I do. Deathbed? Not hardly. Downturn and adjustment time? Yep. End of the world? Nope. Monday morning quarterbacks never lose a game, they're smarter that everyone else. They've never put on a helmet either. NASCAR made some bad choices, what business hasn't? The disco/fad crowd has left, good riddance. In a little over a month, stock car racing fans will be tuning in to Speedweeks. I'll be tuned in, and I could care less if the stands are full, or how big the tv audience is. Over time, the problems NASCAR is facing will work themselves out. I ain't to worried about it. It's entertainment, Period
     
  31. Towmater

    Towmater Ratings Craterville

    It has been entertaining to watch NASCAR attempt to stumble along and attempting to stem the flow of the fans that have exited. Will the stop anymore fans from heading out the door? Perhaps. Will they right the ship? Perhaps. Will the schedule change after the current agreement with the tracks ends? Perhaps. Will they change the rules to stop cheating? Perhaps, but I doubt it. It will be entertaining to watch the sport for the next 7 years and see what the future brings though. Oh, will NASCAR be sold? Perhaps.
     
  32. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

    Will the changes run off the nay sayers? Perhaps
     
  33. Towmater

    Towmater Ratings Craterville

    Will the protectors of the sport ever see that NASCAR has made HUGE mistakes and driven off more than 1/2 the fans? Perhaps.
     
  34. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Team Owner

    I agree with those that say Nascar isn’t going out of business soon. However if young fans can’t be added to the series in reasonable numbers it will end up like IndyCar. NASCAR’s current audience is aging out quickly.
     
  35. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

    So are the owners of Nascar and just maybe they don't care anymore.
     
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  36. Towmater

    Towmater Ratings Craterville

    If the reports of NASCAR being up for sale is correct then maybe you are right. Perhaps.
     
  37. mack

    mack Team Owner

    Perhaps you can offer a solution. So NASCAR has shot itself in the foot. I still watch, and will continue to watch.
     
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  38. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    Owners of Nascar, IMSA, Pintys, ARCA, Nascar Whelen Euro series, and part owner of Nascar Mexico. Yeah they don't care anymore. I'm sure one of the "real" fans will pop up to tell us how insignificant their foot print is world wide on the racing scene.
     
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  39. Towmater

    Towmater Ratings Craterville

    Perhaps but it might get deleted again.
     
  40. mack

    mack Team Owner

    Perhaps
     

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