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The "good old days" ??
Whats the Karma Sutra got to do with it.
Gordon got screwed in a very imaginative way.
Whats the Karma Sutra got to do with it.
But that's OK, because it was GordonKarma baby. Last year Gordon wrecked a chase driver over slight contact, and he took out Logano too.
I lost a ton of respect for Gordon last year.But that's OK, because it was Gordon
MWR slaughtered the sacred HMS cow last night.
I like this but with an addendum:
Joey Lagano also disqualified from the chase. Joey did nothing wrong but Michael Waltrip and company did on Joey's behalf so put him back where he would have been before the cheating occurred.
Jeff Gordon reinstated into 10th.
Ryan Newman reinstated into 13th.
It wont happen but I can dream.
It's not going way because race fans have had enough of it. sports should have real outcomes and entertainment fake ones.I just finished work and I have been able to read a little more about the story. Nascar may have to address this more seriously than I orginally realized.
This story will not go away like I originally expected. The world has changed, the story has gone viral on the internet, and people unbridled by Nascars strong hand will not let it die.
I still think Nascar is more interested in damage control than justice. If the weight of doing nothing is heavier than the fall out of penalizing Napa, 5 hour and Aarons they will be forced to respond.
But that opens a whole new mess, there will be no consensus on how to resolve the issue, it is a damned if you do or don't situation.
Assuming everyone aggrees that MWR deserves punishing, there is then the messy business of how to reset matters.
That is an impossible task, this issue is the perfect storm, all effected parties are damaged even the innocent parties.
You guys are ridiculous. You probably thought before the lucky dog the leaders slowing down to let certain people back on the lead lap was awful too.
Huh? I really don't recall that happening. Nice try though...
A lot of that was done because the leader didn't want that guy beating on there bumper trying to get there lap back with the double file restart with the lap cars inside of then going into turn one.You guys are ridiculous. You probably thought before the lucky dog the leaders slowing down to let certain people back on the lead lap was awful too.
But that's OK, because it was Gordon
MWR slaughtered the sacred HMS cow last night.
You must be pretty new to nascar then kid
A lot of that was done because the leader didn't want that guy beating on there bumper trying to get there lap back with the double file restart with the lap cars inside of then going into turn one.
no one got killed racing back to the yellow. That is the reason for pit road speed limit.i could be wrong, but i believe it became a safety issue. can't remember the circumstances, but i think racing back to the yellow flag about got someone killed when they wrecked in front of the start finish line.
no one got killed racing back to the yellow. That is the reason for pit road speed limit.
Also to put this into perspective consider if the Yankees purposely and blatantly threw the final game of the season so the Red Sox missed out on a wild card.
i could be wrong, but i believe it became a safety issue. can't remember the circumstances, but i think racing back to the yellow flag about got someone killed when they wrecked in front of the start finish line.
i know it's only Wikipedia but...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racing_back_to_the_caution
Problems with racing back to the caution
The practice sometimes created dangerous situations in which cars would be racing near wrecked cars, with possibly injured drivers, and prevent the safety team from reaching the stricken cars quickly. Also, there were numerous situations where cars racing back to the caution nearly, or in some cases did, become part of the crash by plowing into slow or stopped cars on the track. This especially showed during the 2003 Sylvania 300 at Loudon when Dale Jarrett had stopped in the middle of the track while the drivers were racing back to the yellow flag. Another infamous incident took place in the 1990 ARCA race at Daytona, where cars racing back to the line crashed into a stationary car being attended to by rescue crews after a multi-car crash, seriously injuring a paramedic.
i could be wrong, but i believe it became a safety issue. can't remember the circumstances, but i think racing back to the yellow flag about got someone killed when they wrecked in front of the start finish line.
Wow! So this went far beyond the "spin." Had all this extra evidence been brought to Bowyer in his interview, I wonder if he would of had enough time to come up with that many excuses.
This one is really going to hurt NASCAR! For me personally, I can't say that I'm going to quit watching, because that wont happen. However, I believe there are people who will. Many already compare NASCAR to the WWE due to all the "phantom" cautions, and now they have more evidence that it's fixed considering the fact that the two wild card spots were determined by MWR. There is no talking their way out of this one. They MUST take action to save themselves!
It was really pretty common practice.Huh? I really don't recall that happening. Nice try though...
Funny thing is , when Clint spun with 6 laps to go , I didn't hear a single one of you , nor anybody on tv say , lookie there , he did that to get Truex into the chase . Nobody could have known that Gordon would lose out by 1 point , nobody knew that going into the last lap either . Hindsight is really something .
Gordon probably wouldn't have had a chance in hell anyway had he made the Chase, he was 11th in points with zero wins going into Richmond for a reason.
They don't have 43 teams playing each other at the same time. they are playing each other for the win.How about BB teams taking an intentional foul to get the ball back and run out the clock? Or football teams taking an intentional safety, or intentionally downing before the goal line?
I still feel nascar opened this door themselves in the name of entertainment. Doesn't make it right though.
You're one of the clueless dude here....
You're one dumb sob.
So what I find laughable about the whole thing MWR did all of that to make sure Truex made the chase, but in the end, what will it matter...he has about as good of a shot of winning the thing as Gordon would of had if he made it..not happening....I would say JJ, Kenseth, Harvick or Kyle are about the only four in this field that stands much of a chance....just my opinion
Dont hold your breath for that! I am not even a Newman or Gordon fan but I hate to see them screwed. Normally, I am pretty passive but this incident has pissed me off big time.At least if they can't change the outcome, NASCAR should offer an apology to the drivers/teams/sponsors who got screwed.
plus the fuel thing right out of the gate at Daytona.MRW has no integrity. I am reminded that they also stole some parts off Jack Roush once upon a time or at least were accused of it. Nascar is in a pickle here. They either let it go and say its ok or they drop the hammer. Fines mean nothing to these teams. I say park the 15 car for at least one race. I dont think you can go back and let Gordon and Newman in but you cant just walk away and say well thats racin. France and Helton are as crooked as a dogs hind leg but surely they can see what has been created here. It could happen again even in the chase.
You're one of the clueless dude here.
You're one dumb sob.
I hope they deactivate you.
My opinion, for what it's worth, is they will never change this unless they eliminate multiple teams. Single owner teams will do a lot to change NASCAR but that too will never happen again. And, NASCAR is not the only racing series that this has happened. A few years ago F1 had the exact same problem. But of course F1 is quite a different thing altogether.